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Post by greghopper on Dec 4, 2023 18:06:31 GMT -5
Or maybe there are a lot of NR hunting Switzerland county? He doesn’t live in that county or hunt that county unless he goes to the FW there!
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Post by bullseye69 on Dec 4, 2023 18:43:25 GMT -5
Or maybe there are a lot of NR hunting Switzerland county? He doesn’t live in that county or hunt that county unless he goes to the FW there! Idk, I was just guessing. Lol
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Dec 5, 2023 7:30:13 GMT -5
Or maybe there are a lot of NR hunting Switzerland county? There are a good number of Ohio Residents that own property in Dearborn, Ohio and Switzerland counties. Some for camping, some on the river to get away times, and some for hunting. Most for camping and Ohio river or Brookville lake properties.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 5, 2023 8:19:56 GMT -5
Or maybe there are a lot of NR hunting Switzerland county? There are a good number of Ohio Residents that own property in Dearborn, Ohio and Switzerland counties. Some for camping, some on the river to get away times, and some for hunting. Most for camping and Ohio river or Brookville lake properties. And there are some IN hunters , that own or lease land in OH and KY., it goes both ways. I don't see it as a big problem.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Dec 5, 2023 9:03:53 GMT -5
There are a good number of Ohio Residents that own property in Dearborn, Ohio and Switzerland counties. Some for camping, some on the river to get away times, and some for hunting. Most for camping and Ohio river or Brookville lake properties. And there are some IN hunters , that own or lease land in OH and KY., it goes both ways. I don't see it as a big problem. I agree. It seem a lot of OH like to go to KY, the cost of land is lower. My bet a lot of IN do the same.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Dec 5, 2023 9:04:43 GMT -5
I would definitely be in favor for raising the cost of non-resident license costs. $350-$400 for a weapon specific (archery,firearm, or muzzleloader) tag good for a buck with a $25-$35 add on for a doe tag. I believe Indiana to be one of the best states to hunt for big bucks. That shouldn’t come cheap. I do however believe those that own hunt-able land here should be able to hunt that land with a homeowner exemption. They’ve invested in the state and deserve the right to hunt that investment in my opinion.
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Post by wsky70 on Dec 5, 2023 9:30:15 GMT -5
Although I am a Hoosier, born and raised there, looking forward to moving back when employment presents itself. I live in California for the current time. I/we have land in Indiana I can't even hunt with homeowner exemption because California does not reciprocate. They more than doubled the price of the bundle last year to 550.00, really thought about not hunting this year, but chose the single buck tag at 240. I think they did enough last year in my opinion....SF Woody
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Dec 5, 2023 10:38:44 GMT -5
Although I am a Hoosier, born and raised there, looking forward to moving back when employment presents itself. I live in California for the current time. I/we have land in Indiana I can't even hunt with homeowner exemption because California does not reciprocate. They more than doubled the price of the bundle last year to 550.00, really thought about not hunting this year, but chose the single buck tag at 240. I think they did enough last year in my opinion....SF Woody I definitely don’t agree with not being able to hunt your huntable land for that cost. However if you didn’t (own land) I also think you hit the nail on the head in thinking to not head this way because of the cost. I do believe using the cost within reason as a great tool to protect this state’s resources. Take for instance Willow Slough that’s up in my area. Sits right near the Illinois border. So it provides easy access to cheap hunting for the Illinois residents. Lasalle is the same way. Their resources and area to hunt are stretched thin making them much less desirable to hunt. So a lot of hunters in this area head East and put additional pressure on other public land.
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Post by steiny on Dec 5, 2023 12:31:24 GMT -5
I think the IN non-res tags are too expensive as it stands. We have family from Michigan that comes for Thanksgiving to hunt our place and a tag is now $240 for a buck only firearm or $550 for the bundle. They raised prices big time a year or two ago.
Regarding hunting your own land, you can only claim residency in one location so if you own land in two states you're going to be a non resident in one or the other. No getting around that.
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Post by jtkelly on Dec 5, 2023 12:38:46 GMT -5
The cost of licences had nothing to do with the demise of Bison. They were not hunters. It was political to force the Indians onto reservations due to lack of food. Make it so one race of people could not survive so another could be moved onto their land. Partly fueled by the expanding industries in the east that required the leather for belts that were driven by steam and hydro. I know, ur missing the point. People would ride a train and shoot them and leave them. I'm talking the whole license, rules ect. Ah never mind......smh Unbelievable! They were shooting up game animals they didn't even want just for fun?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 5, 2023 12:41:18 GMT -5
I think the IN non-res tags are too expensive as it stands. We have family from Michigan that comes for Thanksgiving to hunt our place and a tag is now $240 for a buck only firearm or $550 for the bundle. They raised prices big time a year or two ago. Regarding hunting your own land, you can only claim residency in one location so if you own land in two states you're going to be a non resident in one or the other. No getting around that. Pretty sure that Indiana will allow non-resident landowners to be exempt from buying a license IF their state of residence allows the same. Not sure how many states are reciprocal? All licenses increased last year for residents and non-residents alike. Grandson used to buy the NR bundle and now only buys the antlered only firearm license.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Dec 5, 2023 12:46:52 GMT -5
I think the IN non-res tags are too expensive as it stands. We have family from Michigan that comes for Thanksgiving to hunt our place and a tag is now $240 for a buck only firearm or $550 for the bundle. They raised prices big time a year or two ago. Regarding hunting your own land, you can only claim residency in one location so if you own land in two states you're going to be a non resident in one or the other. No getting around that. Maybe a simple exemption added to the regulations to clarify those whom own land are also exempt from being required to purchase a license. Fit the verbiage to meet the current land ownership exemption?
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 5, 2023 13:13:46 GMT -5
I think the IN non-res tags are too expensive as it stands. We have family from Michigan that comes for Thanksgiving to hunt our place and a tag is now $240 for a buck only firearm or $550 for the bundle. They raised prices big time a year or two ago. Regarding hunting your own land, you can only claim residency in one location so if you own land in two states you're going to be a non resident in one or the other. No getting around that. Maybe a simple exemption added to the regulations to clarify those whom own land are also exempt from being required to purchase a license. Fit the verbiage to meet the current land ownership exemption? Indiana has made it pretty clear they will only allow the exemption for licensure to apply to "farmland" in Indiana Code and Administrative Code. As concerned as they are about getting fees increased recently, there is no way they will open the floodgates to free hunting to property owners of just any property.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Dec 5, 2023 15:24:32 GMT -5
Maybe a simple exemption added to the regulations to clarify those whom own land are also exempt from being required to purchase a license. Fit the verbiage to meet the current land ownership exemption? Indiana has made it pretty clear they will only allow the exemption for licensure to apply to "farmland" in Indiana Code and Administrative Code. As concerned as they are about getting fees increased recently, there is no way they will open the floodgates to free hunting to property owners of just any property. I completely agree on the existing verbiage. It could be modified I believe to also include non-resident Indiana farmland owners as well though regardless of residency. Then those who own here don’t get penalized and those whom don’t own from out of state pay a premium to enjoy our states resources.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 5, 2023 16:29:43 GMT -5
As concerned as they are about getting fees increased recently, there is no way they will open the floodgates to free hunting to property owners of just any property. Right now, just about anyone with acreage in the country beyond their mowed lawn is tagging as a landowner, regardless of crops or livestock. The "best adaptable" clause of the code means that you don't actually have to farm a property, only that the land is suitable as such should you choose to farm it. The big loophole is saying the trees in your woods are an unharvested timber farm. I have a lifetime license (and only one acre), so it's a moot point for me. But I couldn't count the number of hunters I've encountered over 30 years of living out here who don't farm but claim landowner status. hunt-indiana.com/thread/67142/landowner-tags
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Post by greghopper on Dec 5, 2023 16:50:36 GMT -5
As concerned as they are about getting fees increased recently, there is no way they will open the floodgates to free hunting to property owners of just any property. Right now, just about anyone with acreage in the country beyond their mowed lawn is tagging as a landowner, regardless of crops or livestock. The "best adaptable" clause of the code means that you don't actually have to farm a property, only that the land is suitable as such should you choose to farm it. The big loophole is saying the trees in your woods are an unharvested timber farm. I have a lifetime license (and only one acre), so it's a moot point for me. But I couldn't count the number of hunters I've encountered over 30 years of living out here who don't farm but claim landowner status. hunt-indiana.com/thread/67142/landowner-tagsThis^^^ times 10…. The general public don’t look up codes to understand Hunting rules they look at thepublished Reg Book.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 5, 2023 16:54:58 GMT -5
Right now, just about anyone with acreage in the country beyond their mowed lawn is tagging as a landowner, regardless of crops or livestock. The "best adaptable" clause of the code means that you don't actually have to farm a property, only that the land is suitable as such should you choose to farm it. The big loophole is saying the trees in your woods are an unharvested timber farm. I have a lifetime license (and only one acre), so it's a moot point for me. But I couldn't count the number of hunters I've encountered over 30 years of living out here who don't farm but claim landowner status. hunt-indiana.com/thread/67142/landowner-tagsThis^^^ times 10…. The general public don’t look up codes to understand Hunting rules they look at thepublished Reg Book. Landowner exemption only gives you rights to hunt that property without a license. Still need a license to hunt elsewhere. Is it abused?? 100% yes
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Post by welder on Dec 5, 2023 16:55:31 GMT -5
I always wondered how many deer get killed and go untagged? Not left laying in the woods, brought home and processed?
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Post by jtkelly on Dec 5, 2023 17:07:54 GMT -5
Right now, just about anyone with acreage in the country beyond their mowed lawn is tagging as a landowner, regardless of crops or livestock. The "best adaptable" clause of the code means that you don't actually have to farm a property, only that the land is suitable as such should you choose to farm it. The big loophole is saying the trees in your woods are an unharvested timber farm. I have a lifetime license (and only one acre), so it's a moot point for me. But I couldn't count the number of hunters I've encountered over 30 years of living out here who don't farm but claim landowner status. hunt-indiana.com/thread/67142/landowner-tagsThis^^^ times 10…. The general public don’t look up codes to understand Hunting rules they look at thepublished Reg Book. Easy way to fix all these loop holes. If you want to hunt/make use of a public resource, buy a license. Period. No exemptions, no special permits, no extra county town junior days. You know kinda like every tax paying citizen were almost equal and treated the same.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 5, 2023 17:08:32 GMT -5
I think just going to a draw for nonresidents would increase the interest from traveling hunters. A very low quota would need to be set to make any on-the-ground difference. Then, the powers that be will see all the demand for these licenses, the big $$ they are willing to pay, and the ability to double, triple, whatever the NR quota to raise more funds. We could end up with more NRs, not fewer.
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