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Post by greghopper on Mar 16, 2023 14:16:33 GMT -5
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Post by Huntnfreak on Mar 16, 2023 14:28:32 GMT -5
Seems extreme to me. If private people don’t want their picture taken possibly by a trail camera then they probably shouldn’t visit a PUBLIC area!!
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Mar 16, 2023 15:05:50 GMT -5
I guess this means the COs can no longer use trail cams to catch the bad guys on public land either.
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Post by beermaker on Mar 16, 2023 17:17:44 GMT -5
Seems extreme to me. If private people don’t want their picture taken possibly by a trail camera then they probably shouldn’t visit a PUBLIC area!! Good point. I am curious what that political persuasion of the commission is.
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Post by scrub-buster on Mar 16, 2023 20:10:06 GMT -5
I guess this means the COs can no longer use trail cams to catch the bad guys on public land either. I'm guessing there will be exemptions for situations like that.
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Post by boonechaser on Mar 16, 2023 20:22:33 GMT -5
I am 100% behind banning cellular cameras use during hunting season. (Way to big of a advantage for hunter).
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 3:17:03 GMT -5
I guess this means the COs can no longer use trail cams to catch the bad guys on public land either. I'm guessing there will be exemptions for situations like that. Absolutely…. Same as wire tapping or GPS devices they will use it all!
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 3:21:08 GMT -5
I am 100% behing banning cellular cameras use during hunting season. (Way to big of an advantage for hunter). Don’t stop with cell cameras…. Any recording device has advantages some just easier then others!
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 4:15:01 GMT -5
While the year-old bans on cameras in western states were largely about fair-chase hunting….do trail cams give hunters too much advantage over the elk and deer they hunt? The new Kansas ban is more about privacy issues and potential conflicts on heavily hunted public ground.
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Post by beermaker on Mar 17, 2023 4:17:10 GMT -5
I am 100% behing banning cellular cameras use during hunting season. (Way to big of a advantage for hunter). Absolutely. Turns hunting into shooting.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 4:48:52 GMT -5
I am 100% behing banning cellular cameras use during hunting season. (Way to big of an advantage for hunter). Absolutely. Turns hunting into shooting. You still have to be able to make a killing shot…..just like a fish finder IMO
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Post by boonechaser on Mar 17, 2023 5:22:17 GMT -5
Absolutely. Turns hunting into shooting. You still have to be able to make a killing shot…..just like a fish finder IMO I know of a handfull of bucks killed this season where hunters ,were in another stand, or not even hunting, when recieved real time pic of a target buck at another location. Hunter's moved to stands in those areas ,and killed the bucks. 2 openly ommitted to me , they would not have killed bucks, had it not been for cell camera notifying them of bucks location. Not fair chase , nor something I want any part of.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 5:31:49 GMT -5
You still have to be able to make a killing shot…..just like a fish finder IMO I know of a handfull of bucks killed this season where hunters ,were in another stand, or not even hunting, when recieved real time pic of a target buck at another location. Hunter's moved to stands in those areas ,and killed the bucks. 2 openly ommitted to me , they would not have killed bucks, had it not been for cell camera notifying them of bucks location. Not fair chase , nor something I want any part of. True…….everyone has different ethics when it comes to Hunting! Some good some Bad…
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Mar 17, 2023 6:13:03 GMT -5
Absolutely. Turns hunting into shooting. You still have to be able to make a killing shot…..just like a fish finder IMO Yep. Ban all fish finders too. Not fair chase. Or do we only care because it’s deer?
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Post by boonechaser on Mar 17, 2023 7:10:03 GMT -5
You still have to be able to make a killing shot…..just like a fish finder IMO Yep. Ban all fish finders too. Not fair chase. Or do we only care because it’s deer? Not even close comparison. Cell cams identify the specific animsl.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 7:35:21 GMT -5
Banning cell cameras on private land is a slippery slope… some are used for surveillance and security also… Maybe the should follow the same rules as baiting only illegal if hunted over them!
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 7:54:34 GMT -5
Yep. Ban all fish finders too. Not fair chase. Or do we only care because it’s deer? Not even close comparison. Cell cams identify the specific animsl. Fair Chase isn’t knowing the species,sex or size…. IMO
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Post by jjas on Mar 17, 2023 7:57:39 GMT -5
As I've said several times over the years...
Using cellular game cameras during the hunting season undermines the principles of fair chase. Are we hunting deer or are we running 24/7 surveillance so as to provide an unfair advantage as to what deer are on the properties we have access to and where they tend to travel/bed/eat?
IMO, it's not hunting...
BTW, I think using them for turkey hunting is the same thing.
Surveillance, not hunting.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 17, 2023 8:05:24 GMT -5
As I've said several times over the years... Using cellular game cameras during the hunting season undermines the principles of fair chase. Are we hunting deer or are we running 24/7 surveillance so as to provide an unfair advantage as to what deer are on the properties we have access to and where they tend to travel/bed/eat? IMO, it's not hunting... BTW, I think using them for turkey hunting is basically the same thing. Surveillance, not hunting. Some also believe shooting game at long range isn’t hunting also…
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Post by jjas on Mar 17, 2023 8:23:04 GMT -5
greghopper
I think that's more of a skill level argument. If you practice shooting at long distances and can make those shots with regularity then I have no issues with that.
I do have an issue with people buying a rifle and setting it up to shoot long distances and then never practicing with it farther than a 100 yards but deciding they can take 200,300,400 yard (or longer) shots. That leads to wounding and the goal of hunting should be to put the animal down as quickly as possible, not to see how far we can fling a shot we haven't proven to be proficient at and hopefully hit an animal.
That's cruelty IMO.
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