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Post by beermaker on Feb 4, 2023 11:40:53 GMT -5
The OBR has never been a deciding factor in whether or not I decided to shoot a particular buck, except obviously when I had already harvested one.
I have known enough "if it's brown it's down" guys over the years to believe the OBR is a good thing. Just my opinion.
I know a guy that will put $100 down anytime and do a blind taste test on doe vs buck meat. He will not shoot a buck unless he's willing to spend the money to mount the head. Even then he donates the meat. I'll never claim to be that keen, but I've ate enough deer meat to know that I'll never cut steaks from any buck again. If it's a buck, all of the meat is going through the grinder.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 4, 2023 11:44:04 GMT -5
Definitely one doe. We need to save all the bucks so let's start saving the doe as well. Make doe great again. And I love to get a full strap of ducks. But duck hunters know you can kill more males than females. Only deer hunters can not figure that out. Hunter's have figured it out. Majority that own and manage their properties kill doe's as needed. On 450 acres this year our COOP killed 3 doe's and 3 bucks. ( EHD all around us so backed off doe harvest.) Local hunter's control local populations, some just use as an excuse to kill. Ex. If I don't shoot neighbor will mentality. I totally agree…..not all Deer hunters have the chicken little mentality thankfully.
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 4, 2023 12:03:41 GMT -5
I want to shoot 2 bucks. And I want to keep OBR. Take that... Well lucky you! You DID shoot two bucks and there's still a OBR! That's because I have powerful influence over the DNR. Just ask anyone...
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Post by HuntMeister on Feb 4, 2023 13:50:10 GMT -5
I was thinking I remember someone posting the number of 2nd bucks taken before OBR. Anyone got those numbers to share again? IIRC, it was a rather small number.
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Post by duff on Feb 4, 2023 14:01:11 GMT -5
I was thinking I remember someone posting the number of 2nd bucks taken before OBR. Anyone got those numbers to share again? IIRC, it was a rather small number. I think, on average, 6,000 hunters got a buck during bow and a gun. About 10% of normal buck harvest. However following years the buck harvest increased. So clearly other factors involved. Pro rule change will slant it to say more bucks. Those against the rule change will say it had no impact on deer harvest.
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 4, 2023 14:38:19 GMT -5
How many of these 24 votes were voted the same way back in the first trial days??? That is the true measure of....
And how many of the 10 voted the same???
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Post by hornzilla on Feb 4, 2023 14:43:36 GMT -5
How many of these 24 votes were voted the same way back in the first trial days??? That is the true measure of.... And how many of the 10 voted the same??? I know of one of the 10 that voted the same. I guarentee it.
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Post by treetop on Feb 4, 2023 15:20:13 GMT -5
Two for sure than still same view I had 20 years ago
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Post by duff on Feb 4, 2023 15:23:02 GMT -5
Two for sure than still same view I had 20 years ago Make it 3 then
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Post by treetop on Feb 4, 2023 15:23:13 GMT -5
The OBR has never been a deciding factor in whether or not I decided to shoot a particular buck, except obviously when I had already harvested one. I have known enough "if it's brown it's down" guys over the years to believe the OBR is a good thing. Just my opinion. I know a guy that will put $100 down anytime and do a blind taste test on doe vs buck meat. He will not shoot a buck unless he's willing to spend the money to mount the head. Even then he donates the meat. I'll never claim to be that keen, but I've ate enough deer meat to know that I'll never cut steaks from any buck again. If it's a buck, all of the meat is going through the grinder. Catch one early in bow before they get all rutted up not near as bad also soak in butter milk or coke if they are taken during the rut
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Post by parkerbow on Feb 4, 2023 15:27:27 GMT -5
Two for sure than still same view I had 20 years ago Make it 3 then Number 4 here.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 4, 2023 15:43:26 GMT -5
How many of these 24 votes were voted the same way back in the first trial days??? That is the true measure of.... And how many of the 10 voted the same??? In 2018 INDIANA WHITE-TAILED DEER REPORT starting on page 92 it spells out how OBR gained its popularity it has today…. www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife/files/fw-DeerSummaryReport_2018.pdf
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Post by greghopper on Feb 4, 2023 15:47:50 GMT -5
Make that 1 of 24 that voted same then as now!
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 4, 2023 15:53:13 GMT -5
Back then I was in the do not care category. But these days I have changed my vote to keep it...
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Post by welder on Feb 4, 2023 16:49:24 GMT -5
Two for sure than still same view I had 20 years ago Make it 3 then I voted the same
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Post by titanium700 on Feb 4, 2023 16:51:28 GMT -5
One of the 24 here.
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Post by Huntnfreak on Feb 4, 2023 17:15:18 GMT -5
I voted for OBR…
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 4, 2023 18:43:10 GMT -5
How long should we keep this poll active to get a true poll???
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Post by onebentarrow on Feb 4, 2023 18:53:16 GMT -5
I am probably going to get lambasted for this but I have not been shy about posting my opinions. I went back and read all the posts in this thread. If you read between the lines 99% are about what "I want" not what is good for the heard. I want to shoot bigger deer,I want more does,I want my neighbors to hunt like I do,I do not want my neighbor killing young deer. I want gun moved for big deer so less bucks get shot,I want less season for archery, I want shorter season for gun. I want,I want, I want. Boy are we selfish! Only one post about the sutainability of the herd and nothing about the satisfaction of the hunter that takes a buck that does not meet your standards or goals in what hunting should be. Hunting is personal and satisfaction in the hunt is different for every one of us. We as a group should never degrade a hunter because he does not partake in our self-imposed rules for hunting or what he should or should not kill. We also should not promote laws that restrict his abilities to hunt in a manner that does not hurt the sutainability of the herd because we donot like it. If it is leagle the DNR has supposedly determined that the herd can sutain the kill and can still maintain a healthey herd. I may not like the rules for hunting but if the DNR manages the heard for sutainability of a healthey heard and not for horns or for the satisfaction of some group of hunters I will stand behind them 110 % all day long. At this time the DNR has not shown me that the OBR is best for the satainability of a healthy herd. Thus I do not like the OBR. If they ever show me that the OBR is the best practice for a healthey herd I will except it and promote it 100%. I refuse to allow my wants to cloud my judgements agents scientific information pertaining to managing a heard for sutainability and not for hunter satisfaction.
I could go on but I won't
Onebentarrow
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 4, 2023 19:09:39 GMT -5
Don't forget my excuse. I want to see older/mature deer/bucks in my area. Because I believe having older mature bucks in the herd is healthier for the herd. It's a lot more fun to hunt mature deer than just yearlings. Having mostly yearlings in the herd doing most of the rutting can't be good for the herd. So YES I wanna save a buck anyway possible... From the grocery store right on to the woods...
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