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Post by whitetaildave24 on Feb 2, 2023 11:57:53 GMT -5
I don't put much stock in John Eberhart's comments. Listened to him on a podcast and he seems like a real egotistical trophy hunter who kind of had sour grapes over the idea that anyone could get a deer that big .... other than maybe himself. It's probably not a stretch to say that the majority of book bucks never even get officially measured and that there are probably several world record class racks stashed away hanging in garage rafters somewhere. He is a piece of work for sure. A perfect piece of work if you ask him. Can’t stand him either. |
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 12:24:27 GMT -5
Wait till the Huff Buck doesn’t go to the awards and gets paneled scored that should be interesting. I heard something about there was a disagreement about how the split brow tine on the right side was treated and seems to be a riff with Snyder guy that bought and some scorer's ?? Can't be much of a argument as the buck is very symmetrical. Buck does have "Droopy ears" though....  Dumbest thing I ever heard. Just about every buck I have ever killed looks like that. Dustin just moved down to Switzerland County, him and fiance just bought a small farm down by me. (15 mins away). He is engaged to a friend of mines daughter. I assume he is going to awards banquet for panel scoring, but don't know for sure? Since Snyder now owns original , would he be the one to need to have panel scored or is that up to Dustin??? Again , not sure how that all works. The riff is the 5+ inches it grew being dead. It will be paneled scored if Snyder(owner) takes it to awards. I think what’s a shame is there’s a new record book coming out this year and we won’t have the new state record in it.HRB |
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 2, 2023 12:46:47 GMT -5
I heard something about there was a disagreement about how the split brow tine on the right side was treated and seems to be a riff with Snyder guy that bought and some scorer's ?? Can't be much of a argument as the buck is very symmetrical. Buck does have "Droopy ears" though.... Dumbest thing I ever heard. Just about every buck I have ever killed looks like that. Dustin just moved down to Switzerland County, him and fiance just bought a small farm down by me. (15 mins away). He is engaged to a friend of mines daughter. I assume he is going to awards banquet for panel scoring, but don't know for sure? Since Snyder now owns original , would he be the one to need to have panel scored or is that up to Dustin??? Again , not sure how that all works. The riff is the 5+ inches it grew being dead. It will be paneled scored if Snyder(owner) takes it to awards. I think what’s a shame is there’s a new record book coming out this year and we won’t have the new state record in it.HRB If it was scored by a certified P&Y scorer after dryig period ,I thought HRB recognized that score? Maybe thats changed? |
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Post by scrub-buster on Feb 2, 2023 13:02:57 GMT -5
I heard something about there was a disagreement about how the split brow tine on the right side was treated and seems to be a riff with Snyder guy that bought and some scorer's ?? Can't be much of a argument as the buck is very symmetrical. Buck does have "Droopy ears" though.... Dumbest thing I ever heard. Just about every buck I have ever killed looks like that. Dustin just moved down to Switzerland County, him and fiance just bought a small farm down by me. (15 mins away). He is engaged to a friend of mines daughter. I assume he is going to awards banquet for panel scoring, but don't know for sure? Since Snyder now owns original , would he be the one to need to have panel scored or is that up to Dustin??? Again , not sure how that all works. The riff is the 5+ inches it grew being dead. It will be paneled scored if Snyder(owner) takes it to awards. I think what’s a shame is there’s a new record book coming out this year and we won’t have the new state record in it.HRB Is there anywhere the state records can be viewed online? From what I've been told the record before the Huff buck was the one that was a set of sheds when my dad owned them. I've yet to hear back from the current owner on if he had it X-rayed or not. I'd like to see how it is entered into the records. |
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 13:15:56 GMT -5
The riff is the 5+ inches it grew being dead. It will be paneled scored if Snyder(owner) takes it to awards. I think what’s a shame is there’s a new record book coming out this year and we won’t have the new state record in it.HRB If it was scored by a certified P&Y scorer after dryig period ,I thought HRB recognized that score? Maybe thats changed? With it being a New Record and the scoring debacle the HRB wants to verify it from what I am hearing plus it has to be requested to be entered |
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 2, 2023 13:27:33 GMT -5
If it was scored by a certified P&Y scorer after dryig period ,I thought HRB recognized that score? Maybe thats changed? With it being a New Record and the scoring debacle the HRB wants to verify it from what I am hearing plus it has to be requested to be entered I just read Dave Wellman was the official B&C scorer that scored the 211 4/8. ( Have not heard of any other official scorers scoring it?? ) Sounds like another circus and exactly why most choose not to enter in record books anymore. Fact that he sold the original antlers would take it out of his hands and up to owner. Dustin is making a living off shows and endorsements, guess he is laughing all the way to bank. |
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 13:36:01 GMT -5
With it being a New Record and the scoring debacle the HRB wants to verify it from what I am hearing plus it has to be requested to be entered I just read Dave Wellman was the official B&C scorer that scored the 211 4/8. ( Have not heard of any other official scorers scoring it?? ) Sounds like another circus and exactly why most choose not to enter in record books anymore. Fact that he sold the original antlers would take it out of his hands and up to owner. Dustin is making a living off shows and endorsements, guess he is laughing all the way to bank. It was green scored by a official and well respected professional from Indiana that has scored a ton of Deer for HRB and has never been wrong.That’s where the rub starts from my understanding.I believe some others have also green scored it. Wellman drove across country just to score it for Snyder after buying it. |
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Post by Huntnfreak on Feb 2, 2023 13:46:56 GMT -5
It won’t hit 211”…..
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 2, 2023 14:00:26 GMT -5
With it being a New Record and the scoring debacle the HRB wants to verify it from what I am hearing plus it has to be requested to be entered I just read Dave Wellman was the official B&C scorer that scored the 211 4/8. ( Have not heard of any other official scorers scoring it?? ) Sounds like another circus and exactly why most choose not to enter in record books anymore. Fact that he sold the original antlers would take it out of his hands and up to owner. Dustin is making a living off shows and endorsements, guess he is laughing all the way to bank. Beats working for a living, I guess. |
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 2, 2023 14:10:05 GMT -5
The next closest is Jordan Buck 206 1/8. Sounds like a  ing match amongst scorers. Same as Rompolo buck, there were B&C scorers that scored and inspected it and said it was legit. Then all who think or thought was fake. Who knows?? (Personally don't care.) Guess it is up to hunter and or, now the owner of the deer antlers. ( Just makes me want to not enter any deer in a record book even more.) Know of multiple scorer's in last year that have dropped BC and PY certifications and now score for Buckmaster. Must be a reason for that? |
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 14:26:34 GMT -5
The next closest is Jordan Buck 206 1/8. Sounds like a ing match amongst scorers. Same as Rompolo buck, there were B&C scorers that scored and inspected it and said it was legit. Then all who think or thought was fake. Who knows?? (Personally don't care.) Guess it is up to hunter and or, now the owner of the deer antlers. ( Just makes me want to not enter any deer in a record book even more.) Know of multiple scorer's in last year that have dropped BC and PY certifications and now score for Buckmaster. Must be a reason for that? All Mitch had to do is let someone x-ray it. But then that would’ve stopped all the talk drama and line light.IMO Thousands of game go into books every year but only about 1% have a drama cloud over them…. Go figure! |
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Post by Huntnfreak on Feb 2, 2023 14:43:09 GMT -5
The next closest is Jordan Buck 206 1/8. Sounds like a ing match amongst scorers. Same as Rompolo buck, there were B&C scorers that scored and inspected it and said it was legit. Then all who think or thought was fake. Who knows?? (Personally don't care.) Guess it is up to hunter and or, now the owner of the deer antlers. ( Just makes me want to not enter any deer in a record book even more.) Know of multiple scorer's in last year that have dropped BC and PY certifications and now score for Buckmaster. Must be a reason for that? Follow the money….(on the Huff buck anyway). This debacle has nothing to do with Dustin…just his old rack. |
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 2, 2023 14:43:38 GMT -5
The next closest is Jordan Buck 206 1/8. Sounds like a ing match amongst scorers. Same as Rompolo buck, there were B&C scorers that scored and inspected it and said it was legit. Then all who think or thought was fake. Who knows?? (Personally don't care.) Guess it is up to hunter and or, now the owner of the deer antlers. ( Just makes me want to not enter any deer in a record book even more.) Know of multiple scorer's in last year that have dropped BC and PY certifications and now score for Buckmaster. Must be a reason for that? All Mitch had to do is let someone x-ray it. But then that would’ve stopped all the talk drama and line light.IMO Thousands of game go into books every year but only about 1% have a drama cloud over them…. Go figure! Just paying to read your name in a book at the end of the day. (Some go to great lengths to do so.) Definition of Vanity: Excessive pride of ones appearance or achievements. |
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 15:01:20 GMT -5
All Mitch had to do is let someone x-ray it. But then that would’ve stopped all the talk drama and line light.IMO Thousands of game go into books every year but only about 1% have a drama cloud over them…. Go figure! Just paying to read your name in a book at the end of the day. (Some go to great lengths to do so.) Definition of Vanity: Excessive pride of ones appearance or achievements. That your opinion many others see it differently …. You can only see your name if you buy or read the book many buy and read the books for different reasons Historical factors is one of them. |
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 15:03:47 GMT -5
The next closest is Jordan Buck 206 1/8. Sounds like a ing match amongst scorers. Same as Rompolo buck, there were B&C scorers that scored and inspected it and said it was legit. Then all who think or thought was fake. Who knows?? (Personally don't care.) Guess it is up to hunter and or, now the owner of the deer antlers. ( Just makes me want to not enter any deer in a record book even more.) Know of multiple scorer's in last year that have dropped BC and PY certifications and now score for Buckmaster. Must be a reason for that? Follow the money….(on the Huff buck anyway). This debacle has nothing to do with Dustin…just his old rack. Exactly…… |
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 2, 2023 16:14:50 GMT -5
Its still the No.2. All time. Looking back after kill, I am seeing green scores of 208-209 range. Where areyou getting 5" at?
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Post by greghopper on Feb 2, 2023 17:25:01 GMT -5
Its still the No.2. All time. Looking back after kill, I am seeing green scores of 208-209 range. Where areyou getting 5" at? 206 and change green was what a NAW scorer that was scheduled to score it at ATA last year had it IIRC. As stated before when awards year comes and panel score happens (if it does)it will be interesting. |
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 2, 2023 17:51:53 GMT -5
Its still the No.2. All time. Looking back after kill, I am seeing green scores of 208-209 range. Where areyou getting 5" at? 206 and change green was what a NAW scorer that was scheduled to score it at ATA last year had it IIRC. As stated before when awards year comes and panel score happens (if it does)it will be interesting. I wouldn't think anything would be gained by not having it officially scored and entered? I'll stop and see Dustin after he gets back from Expo., and see what he says. Dang drama with everything these days..... |
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Post by beermaker on Feb 3, 2023 5:42:22 GMT -5
If no one else will, I'll call BS on the claim that it weighed #260+ and he drug it out of the woods himself. Maybe downhill on a snow covered lawn, but in the woods? No way.
As far as the legitimacy of the rack? I could care less.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 3, 2023 8:00:22 GMT -5
If no one else will, I'll call BS on the claim that it weighed #260+ and he drug it out of the woods himself. Maybe downhill on a snow covered lawn, but in the woods? No way. As far as the legitimacy of the rack? I could care less. I agree…..something’s are Self cleansing and the ROMPOLA BUCK seems to be one of them! |
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Dumbest thing I ever heard. Just about every buck I have ever killed looks like that. Dustin just moved down to Switzerland County, him and fiance just bought a small farm down by me. (15 mins away). He is engaged to a friend of mines daughter. I assume he is going to awards banquet for panel scoring, but don't know for sure? Since Snyder now owns original , would he be the one to need to have panel scored or is that up to Dustin??? Again , not sure how that all works.
