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Post by Mean Gene on Jan 17, 2023 8:46:14 GMT -5
Just read through the 2022 live fishing thread, and I now have fishing envy. I see ice fishing pictures: is that more in the northern part of the state? You get steelhead in Indiana? So many pictures of bass, crappie, perch, etc...all great eating. Here we have trout, the end. I'm really looking forward to being able to catch fish I'd actually eat.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 17, 2023 9:01:00 GMT -5
The Walleyes and Perch are premium fish IMO
Indiana boarders the Great Lakes….
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Post by esshup on Jan 17, 2023 9:36:08 GMT -5
Steelhead are in Lake Michigan and it's tributaries. Ice fishing is really, really iffy even in the northern part of the state. The whole pond here was ice free about 5 days ago, and looking at the long range forecast I don't see any ice fishing for the rest of the winter.
If you have some land and have a pond, depending on the size of the pond you can have just about any fish in it that you want. Crappies are the hardest fish to manage in a pond due to their boom and bust spawning cycles. There are hybrid crappie available that reproduce less than either of their parents, but it still takes a bit of management to keep their numbers in check. A customer with a 4 acre pond has crappie that are pushing 14" within 3 years of stocking them. I was able to source feed trained walleye last year, I am unsure whether I will be able to get them this year but I am going to try. Those grew from 3 1/4" fish to 12" fish from April 1 to November 1.
It's difficult to grow large Largemouth Bass and large panfish in the same pond. It's easier to grow large panfish than large Largemouth. Or I should say you would enjoy the fishing in a pond managed for large panfish than a pond managed for large largemouth bass, basically because of the catch rate and how often you can fish the pond. Large Largemouth get hook shy and get very hard to catch.
Once you've fished in a well managed pond you probably won't want to fish in a public lake again. LOL
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Post by Mean Gene on Jan 17, 2023 9:58:23 GMT -5
Steelhead are in Lake Michigan and it's tributaries. Ice fishing is really, really iffy even in the northern part of the state. The whole pond here was ice free about 5 days ago, and looking at the long range forecast I don't see any ice fishing for the rest of the winter. If you have some land and have a pond, depending on the size of the pond you can have just about any fish in it that you want. Crappies are the hardest fish to manage in a pond due to their boom and bust spawning cycles. There are hybrid crappie available that reproduce less than either of their parents, but it still takes a bit of management to keep their numbers in check. A customer with a 4 acre pond has crappie that are pushing 14" within 3 years of stocking them. I was able to source feed trained walleye last year, I am unsure whether I will be able to get them this year but I am going to try. Those grew from 3 1/4" fish to 12" fish from April 1 to November 1. It's difficult to grow large Largemouth Bass and large panfish in the same pond. It's easier to grow large panfish than large Largemouth. Or I should say you would enjoy the fishing in a pond managed for large panfish than a pond managed for large largemouth bass, basically because of the catch rate and how often you can fish the pond. Large Largemouth get hook shy and get very hard to catch. Once you've fished in a well managed pond you probably won't want to fish in a public lake again. LOL Having a pond will be a requirement when we buy. Also, enough land to hunt. I really want fish in the pond so the grandkids can get them. |
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 17, 2023 12:45:14 GMT -5
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Post by duff on Jan 17, 2023 12:59:20 GMT -5
As an environmental engineer I will just say carefully consume info released as much as you would consume flesh of a wild animal. I will say the fish consumption advisories were published more to scare and grab power than to protect the majority of people. If you eat wild fish 1xmonth you are way above average in consumption but WAY WAY belly the consumption rates used to model for risk of health impacts. Farm raised catfish and tilapia are likely worse in other regards. |
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Post by duff on Jan 17, 2023 13:16:59 GMT -5
Indiana fishing is pretty good. Wading creeks for smallmouth is a must do. I don't do it anymore but grew up fishing smallies up by Anderson. It can be fast and furious.
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Post by Mean Gene on Jan 17, 2023 15:03:59 GMT -5
Indiana fishing is pretty good. Wading creeks for smallmouth is a must do. I don't do it anymore but grew up fishing smallies up by Anderson. It can be fast and furious. Been watching lots of Youtube videos on doing just that. Looks like a guy could have a ton of fun on almost any waterway. |
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 17, 2023 16:56:26 GMT -5
Not much better than spring wading a big creek up to your waist with an ultralight and catching a football. Redneck stuff
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Post by joebuck on Jan 17, 2023 18:41:41 GMT -5
As an environmental engineer I will just say carefully consume info released as much as you would consume flesh of a wild animal. I will say the fish consumption advisories were published more to scare and grab power than to protect the majority of people. If you eat wild fish 1xmonth you are way above average in consumption but WAY WAY belly the consumption rates used to model for risk of health impacts. Farm raised catfish and tilapia are likely worse in other regards. i totally agree. Talking about 9500 billionths of a gram? And 47 parts per trillion? Here's a good visualization. Take a box 63 yards long, 63 yards wide and 63 yards deep. Fill it to the top with sand. Thats approximately 1 trillion grains of sand; only 47 are bad. You get more exposure merely by waking up in lake county. Yeah, i'm gonna keep fishing. |
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Post by Mean Gene on Jan 17, 2023 20:39:16 GMT -5
As an environmental engineer I will just say carefully consume info released as much as you would consume flesh of a wild animal. I will say the fish consumption advisories were published more to scare and grab power than to protect the majority of people. If you eat wild fish 1xmonth you are way above average in consumption but WAY WAY belly the consumption rates used to model for risk of health impacts. Farm raised catfish and tilapia are likely worse in other regards. i totally agree. Talking about 9500 billionths of a gram? And 47 parts per trillion? Here's a good visualization. Take a box 63 yards long, 63 yards wide and 63 yards deep. Fill it to the top with sand. Thats approximately 1 trillion grains of sand; only 47 are bad. You get more exposure merely by waking up in lake county. Yeah, i'm gonna keep fishing. Yeah, I think I'll keep fishing too. |
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Post by esshup on Jan 18, 2023 0:14:43 GMT -5
If you read in depth, and search further, the EPA had the (iirc) monthly consumption limit set for 70 ppb. They recently dropped it to the 47 ppt number........ The article was written and published after the limit drop. Plus they seem to have PFAS and PFOS lumpted together, when they are different. For as much as I eat fish out of the Great Lakes, I sure ain't going to worry about it. Want something else to worry about? Search micro plastics and see how they are showing up in everything. |
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