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Post by firstwd on Jan 1, 2023 21:55:41 GMT -5
This week I have been cleaning out an area maybe 100 yards long 10 to 20 yards wide where a bunch of treetops were stacked up after the logging 2 years ago. After a good look and a plans to eliminate some scrub trees half of this are will have direct southern sun exposure. I have been told that persimmon trees need a lot of direct light so I think this will be a suitable place for some.
My question is where to acquire persimmon trees and how big of trees should I be looking for?
My current plan is to put 4 or 5 peach trees in the other half of this area. It too will have good light but it will be broken.
Project number two is and area 30 yards or so wide by 120ish yards long. Once the junk is cleaned up the plan is pear and apple trees
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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2023 22:09:15 GMT -5
Contact the Indiana Nut Growers Association. They typically have a booth at the Indianapolis Home Show and the Flower & Patio Show……which is a good source of persimmon- and nut-growing information. www.infga.org/ |
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Post by duff on Jan 2, 2023 4:32:43 GMT -5
Persimmons need male and female trees to produce fruit. I have no idea on how to tell the difference outside of flowers and fruit. If you know of a good producing tree there are likely young trees you can transplant.
They do well on about any edge on my place. The top producers are in 100% sun.
Stark bros is good source for started trees if only getting a few. It will jump start your production at any rate.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 2, 2023 10:32:21 GMT -5
Thank you gentlemen. Sounds like I need to find out what male to female ratio I need. For growth room I think 5 would be the max I can get away with in the area
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Post by jtkelly on Jan 2, 2023 10:52:48 GMT -5
Persimmons need male and female trees to produce fruit. I have no idea on how to tell the difference outside of flowers and fruit. If you know of a good producing tree there are likely young trees you can transplant. They do well on about any edge on my place. The top producers are in 100% sun. Stark bros is good source for started trees if only getting a few. It will jump start your production at any rate. If you have a good producer or know of one, you can also graft to the trees not producing. Rural King also sells the Prok and the Yates variety when they are in season.
The young trees also NEED PROTECTION for them to grow as fast as possible. FENCE, if you THINK you have a slow growing runt planted some where, put a fence around it to keep the deer and rabbits off it.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 2, 2023 12:10:25 GMT -5
Persimmons need male and female trees to produce fruit. I have no idea on how to tell the difference outside of flowers and fruit. If you know of a good producing tree there are likely young trees you can transplant. They do well on about any edge on my place. The top producers are in 100% sun. Stark bros is good source for started trees if only getting a few. It will jump start your production at any rate. American persimmons are not usually self-pollinating, but some named varieties are. If you choose a native seedling however, you will need a second tree to get a good harvest. Also, Japanese and American persimmons will not cross pollinate. www.hgtv.com/outdoors/landscaping-and-hardscaping/how-to-plant-and-grow-persimmons |
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Post by parrothead on Jan 2, 2023 13:52:43 GMT -5
If you just need a few get them from Stark Brothers. They have one yeAr free replacement. I have also ordered from the state before
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Post by parrothead on Jan 2, 2023 13:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by parrothead on Jan 2, 2023 13:55:40 GMT -5
Native to Indiana self pollinating
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Post by scrub-buster on Jan 2, 2023 14:06:41 GMT -5
Have you looked into dwarf chinkapin oak? I think that's what I'm going to plant. They start producing acorns in 4 years.  |
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Post by duff on Jan 2, 2023 18:18:15 GMT -5
Native to Indiana self pollinating Hmm I have several on my property and some never bear fruit while others always do. I just assumed male and female trees. |
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Post by steiny on Jan 3, 2023 9:19:49 GMT -5
Need to make sure you get northern variety Persimmons.
I tried transplanting some from southern IL and they froze out.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 5, 2023 6:08:42 GMT -5
Have you looked into dwarf chinkapin oak? I think that's what I'm going to plant. They start producing acorns in 4 years. I have not, but after the logging I'm really not short on oak trees. My thoughts were to add soft mast to encourage earlier season activity. Hard mast and crops are everywhere and since both orchards in the area have been clear-cut over the years I guess I was aiming fill that gap. |
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Post by gumbootbill on Jan 6, 2023 17:42:56 GMT -5
Get a pear variety that matures late closer to October. Bartlett has big yellow juicy pears deer love them.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 9, 2023 14:58:11 GMT -5
Get a pear variety that matures late closer to October. Bartlett has big yellow juicy pears deer love them. Pears are my plans for the other open spot farther from the road. It's roughly 3 times larger than this one. |
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Post by jtkelly on Jan 12, 2023 10:45:04 GMT -5
Pears seem like a good idea until you watch them die and never produce from wilt, rot, cedar rust and fungus.
Use native persimmon trees. Plant them in the sun and protect them from predation when they are young, just the same as you would have to do with pears.
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Post by firstwd on May 14, 2023 5:25:56 GMT -5
I picked up 5 persimmon seedlings back in February and 4 survived the cat at the house. They went in the ground Thursday with a T post and tree tube for protection. I'll need to keep track of rainfall and probably have to water at least once a week this summer. Now it's just wait about 10 years to see if I got the right combination of male and female trees for fruit.
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