|
|
Post by genesis273 on Oct 5, 2022 18:01:23 GMT -5
After spending the day in the woods preparing for season, I decided to shoot both my compound and crossbow. I just bought my wicked Ridge NXT 400 this spring from Wyvern Creation's. Zero issues with getting it sighted in. This afternoon, I cocked it for the first time and the sled would not release and let me get it out from underneath the scope. I spoke with David at Wyvern Creation's and he talked me thru fixing the acudraw. He had me take of the lid and immediately a retainer pin fell to the ground and I saw the spool cover was bent. He had me take it off and straighten it after I fixed the backlash on the sled string. He said that's caused by a weak or broken spring. He told me to put it all back together and try again. He asked me to let him know how it goes. We hung up, I reassembled and began to cock the crossbow again. I got about 3/4 of the way back and BOOM!!! A big explosion on the inside and the sled brakes in hal and the crossbow dry fires. The broken sled hits the scope, knocks it crooked and brakes a turet before slamming into my chest and knuckles. Not exactly sure where to go from here. I know that I do not trust this particular crossbow now. Limbs could be cracked/twisted with the dry fire and there's obviously an issue with the acudraw. David seems like a great guy and I'm sure he'll make it right. I just hope it won't cost me anything out of pocket.    |
|
|
|
Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 5, 2022 18:08:21 GMT -5
Man, that sucks. From what I’ve heard of him he will get ya fixed up and ready to go as quickly as he can. I’d think it wouldn’t cost you anything out of pocket.
|
|
|
|
Post by greghopper on Oct 5, 2022 18:29:42 GMT -5
Ask him if he can send a new one or a loaner until yours is fixed!
He has to know it’s Hunting season….
|
|
|
|
Post by deadeer on Oct 5, 2022 22:29:38 GMT -5
Man that sucks to hear!
I am gonna preach something that holds true. Sure seems like a lot of high performance crossbows have more problems than slower ones. I know they are awesome, especially Ravins and the like. But, you just dont hear or too many slower bows <350fps coming apart.
I have a couple crossbows, 330fps Camx, and an Excal M380. Loaned out another Camx and Excal M330. Never a problem.
That's not helping your situation, but just saying what I've seen. GOOD LUCK!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by genesis273 on Oct 6, 2022 6:24:34 GMT -5
I have to mail it back (at my expense) and he says he'll repair it and send back after he repairs and inspects it. He'll pay return shipping.
It's not that I have a lack of faith in David, although I don't KNOW him, he has been decent to work with during the crossbow purchase. But, I do not have faith in this particular crossbow. I don't know that I want it fixed and returned. I think I want it replaced. Period.
I will be contacting Ten Point today and see what they suggest.
I truly think the most fair thing to do is send me another crossbow with a return shipping label inside. I'll send this damaged one back in the same box that the new comes in.
|
|
|
|
Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 6, 2022 6:39:32 GMT -5
I think I’d be just as hesitant as you are and your last scenario makes the most sense and I’d push for that as hard as I could. If it’s a no all the way around, then move from there. Maybe sell it once it’s fixed and purchase a new one. Not ideal, but doubt you’ll ever fully trust that particular one again.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 6, 2022 8:12:48 GMT -5
I agree, being hunting season the best option is shipping a new one. I agree with Deadeer with the 350fps. I read an article a few years back that stated the issues over 360fps. That was with traditional crossbows. Not sure what is the best for the new reverse crossbows. My tenpoint Horton crossbow with Acudraw is right at 360fps. Fast enough.
|
|
|
|
Post by jjas on Oct 6, 2022 8:38:13 GMT -5
Man that sucks to hear! I am gonna preach something that holds true. Sure seems like a lot of high performance crossbows have more problems than slower ones. I know they are awesome, especially Ravins and the like. But, you just dont hear or too many slower bows <350fps coming apart. I have a couple crossbows, 330fps Camx, and an Excal M380. Loaned out another Camx and Excal M330. Never a problem. That's not helping your situation, but just saying what I've seen. GOOD LUCK!!! I would imagine cocking/shooting these types of crossbows puts a lot of stress on the strings/cables for sure. One thing that many never mention is the stress from leaving them cocked for hours when hunting with them. The speed is great, but something has to give @ some point... |
|
|
|
Post by Woody Williams on Oct 6, 2022 8:47:47 GMT -5
Guys,
360 fps in the present day crossbow world is not really all that “fast”. Most folks are opting for at least 400 fps.
I’m happy with my two bows that are 350 (Stealth SS)and 370 (Horton Storm RDX).
Genesis, I sent you a pm ..
|
|
|
|
Post by parrothead on Oct 6, 2022 9:54:47 GMT -5
I would have thought you send it back to ten point?
I agree with Woody.What do they have now 505 fps. That is movin.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 6, 2022 11:06:34 GMT -5
Purchase price at fps
Tenpoint Nitro 505fps = $6.04 fps
Barrett traditional 390fps = $1.07 fps
Avalanche Guillotine 370fps = $0.75 fps
|
|
|
|
Post by Woody Williams on Oct 6, 2022 12:32:10 GMT -5
Purchase price at fps Tenpoint Nitro 505fps = $6.04 fps Barrett traditional 390fps = $1.07 fps Avalanche Guillotine 370fps = $0.75 fps Lots more to consider in buying a crossbow besides cost and fps.. |
|
|
|
Post by deadeer on Oct 6, 2022 12:40:30 GMT -5
Purchase price at fps Tenpoint Nitro 505fps = $6.04 fps Barrett traditional 390fps = $1.07 fps Avalanche Guillotine 370fps = $0.75 fps Lots more to consider in buying a crossbow besides cost and fps.. For sure, but... I like the approach showing that you PAY for speed. (technology) |
|
|
|
Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 6, 2022 12:54:21 GMT -5
Lots more to consider in buying a crossbow besides cost and fps.. For sure, but... I like the approach showing that you PAY for speed. (technology) I agree, but it's surprising the price for speed. |
|
|
|
Post by greghopper on Oct 6, 2022 19:23:38 GMT -5
Any update on what went wrong or a fix ?
|
|
|
|
Post by genesis273 on Oct 6, 2022 21:35:12 GMT -5
Any update on what went wrong or a fix ? Not yet. To avoid the cost of mailing it back, I called a local-ish ten point repairman. Unfortunately, he said won't be able to fix it until he sees it in person then he'll probably have to order a new part. He also told me that ten point does not cover shipping or labor in their warranty. I'm trying to find a box that the crossbow will fit into. Then I'll probably just ship it to David. Although I did take the acudraw apart at David's instructions, the other dealer told me that if I tell ten point that, they'll void the warranty as I'm not a certified repairman. So, it's probably best to just eat the shipping and mail it to him. |
|
|
|
Post by greghopper on Oct 7, 2022 3:22:22 GMT -5
Yikes….
|
|
|
|
Post by omegahunter on Oct 7, 2022 12:06:09 GMT -5
Any update on what went wrong or a fix ? Not yet. To avoid the cost of mailing it back, I called a local-ish ten point repairman. Unfortunately, he said won't be able to fix it until he sees it in person then he'll probably have to order a new part. He also told me that ten point does not cover shipping or labor in their warranty. I'm trying to find a box that the crossbow will fit into. Then I'll probably just ship it to David. Although I did take the acudraw apart at David's instructions, the other dealer told me that if I tell ten point that, they'll void the warranty as I'm not a certified repairman. So, it's probably best to just eat the shipping and mail it to him. Wow, that first paragraph is enough to ward me off Tenpoint. On the other hand, since you followed David's instructions and it caused a failure, I'm sure that he will make it right. |
|
|
|
Post by Woody Williams on Oct 7, 2022 12:16:11 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by genesis273 on Oct 7, 2022 15:07:46 GMT -5
David asked me what the demensions of my shipping container is. I told him. He sent another email stating that he is working on something with tenpoint for me.
I truly think David is trying to work with me here. We shall see.
|
|
