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Post by deadeer on Jun 13, 2022 11:58:49 GMT -5
I guess what we don't know won't hurt us? I don't know that I would say that. I think it's more of a "wait and see" deal IMO. Or like Pelosi with Obummer Care, "Pass the bill to see what's in it"...
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Post by greghopper on Jun 13, 2022 12:44:30 GMT -5
I don't know that I would say that. I think it's more of a "wait and see" deal IMO. Or like Pelosi with Obummer Care, "Pass the bill to see what's in it"... Apples &Oranges…. IMO
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Post by greghopper on Jun 13, 2022 12:47:30 GMT -5
^^^^ I don't know. They just said "expanded background checks". Not much is being published. I guess what we don't know won't hurt us? “It would also expand the nation’s background check system to include juvenile records for any prospective gun buyer under the age of 21.” ift.tt/W4sG12t
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Post by deadeer on Jun 13, 2022 12:55:51 GMT -5
Or like Pelosi with Obummer Care, "Pass the bill to see what's in it"... Apples &Oranges…. IMO They forced that down our throats too. That was my intent.
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Post by greghopper on Jun 13, 2022 13:13:40 GMT -5
Pretty sure everyone will know what’s in this bill before it passes…. That was the point!
Heck…. Some are adding their own version now it seems.
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Post by esshup on Jun 13, 2022 13:26:41 GMT -5
^^^^ I don't know. They just said "expanded background checks". Not much is being published. I guess what we don't know won't hurt us? “It would also expand the nation’s background check system to include juvenile records for any prospective gun buyer under the age of 21.” ift.tt/W4sG12tSo, this will automatically unseal the sealed juvie records?
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Post by greghopper on Jun 13, 2022 14:02:13 GMT -5
“It would also expand the nation’s background check system to include juvenile records for any prospective gun buyer under the age of 21.” ift.tt/W4sG12tSo, this will automatically unseal the sealed juvie records? Not all them records are sealed in OUR state. “Generally”…. juvenile court records are confidential. www.in.gov/pac/files/Public_access_to_juvenile_records.pdf
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 13, 2022 14:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Jun 13, 2022 23:01:53 GMT -5
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Jun 14, 2022 11:02:17 GMT -5
Now I can carry without the tax recorded permit.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 18, 2022 9:58:10 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jun 22, 2022 6:56:02 GMT -5
From the Shooting wire...
As Anticipated, Senate Drops Legislative Bomb on Gun Owners
Texas Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) hit the proverbial nail on the head when he said “This bill is not going to please everyone…” shortly after the bipartisan group of Senators he led dropped the long-awaited, much-speculated full text of their “bipartisan gun safety bill” last evening. According to the Senators, the bill will “protect America’s children, keep our schools safe, and reduce the threat of violence across the country.” In response, groups like the Firearms Policy Coalition and the National Rifle Association wasted no time in letting the Senators know they’re the opposite of happy. “You can thank the worthless GOP,” the FPC wrote, “which has basically f*cked you and your rights- but couldn’t be bothered to buy you dinner.” Erich Pratt, Senior VP of the Gun Owners of America issued a statement saying “Once again, so-called conservative Senators are making clear they believe that the rights of American citizens can be compromised away. Let me be clear, they have NO AUTHORITY to compromise our rights, and we will not tolerate legislators who are willing to turn gun owners into second-class citizens.”
The National Rifle Association’s statement was more polite, but equally direct: “The NRA will support legislation that improves school security, promotes mental health services, and helps reduce violent crime. However, we will oppose this gun control legislation because it falls short at every level. It does little to truly address violent Crim while opening the door to unnecessary burdens on the exercise of Second Amendment freedom by law-abiding gun owners.”
Despite the vociferous opposition, the Senate says it is “confident” it will have the legislation passed before the Senate leaves for its two-week July Fourth recess.
As always, we’ll keep you posted.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 22, 2022 7:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jun 22, 2022 8:12:44 GMT -5
Since the primaries are over and Todd Young is on the ballot this November, I would imagine he figures that Republican voters (and that includes a lot of gun owners) will vote for him even though many will likely disagree with his support of the bipartisan gun control legislation.
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Post by parson on Jun 22, 2022 13:58:26 GMT -5
Sen. Mike Lee said this: "We received the bill text, just moments before we were expected to vote on it. It ended up getting an overwhelming vote, because basically all of Democrats and ten or 15 Republicans voted for it. This is stunning to me. This is not how the Senate is supposed to operate," he added.
Really disappointed in Todd Young.
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Post by jjas on Jun 22, 2022 18:00:22 GMT -5
Parson
I guess the question now becomes, "Are you so disappointed that you won't vote for him in November?"
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Post by deadeer on Jun 22, 2022 18:25:48 GMT -5
Parson I guess the question now becomes, "Are you so disappointed that you won't vote for him in November?" Many of the races come down to voting for the lesser of the 2 evils.
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Post by jjas on Jun 22, 2022 18:49:54 GMT -5
Parson I guess the question now becomes, "Are you so disappointed that you won't vote for him in November?" Many of the races come down to voting for the lesser of the 2 evils. We've all have had to hold our noses and vote for people who normally are more aligned with us on issues such as this but voted a different way than we would have liked. That's politics...
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Post by greghopper on Jun 22, 2022 18:50:52 GMT -5
Parson I guess the question now becomes, "Are you so disappointed that you won't vote for him in November?" Many of the races come down to voting for the lesser of the 2 evils. Exactly…. Voting Democrat won’t help any IMO
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Post by freedomhunter on Jun 22, 2022 19:13:04 GMT -5
Many of the races come down to voting for the lesser of the 2 evils. We've all have had to hold our noses and vote for people who normally are more aligned with us on issues such as this but voted a different way than we would have liked. That's politics... Bull. You speak in absolutes. I wont vote for young and wont hold my nose ever. I will vote independent or libertarian before a stinking baby killer demonrat
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