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Post by HighCotton on Jan 18, 2022 19:38:55 GMT -5
Just in from a ride in my son's Mustang Mach-E! He just traded the Tesla model 3 for the Ford. Talk about a CRAZY launch from a stop. It's amazing what these electric cars are putting out for torque now! If a passenger doesn't know what's coming, they find out in a nano-second once the driver mashes the accelerator. I mean these dudes will do zero to 60 in 3-4 seconds. This video gives a bit of perspective: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtugYaTyCQg
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Post by firstwd on Jan 18, 2022 19:54:05 GMT -5
I have no issues with battery operated vehicles. My issue is certain segments of society forcing them onto others.
It's like outlawing privately owned vehicles and forcing everybody to use public transit. The darn bus doesn't come past the corner of wheat and beans all too often.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 18, 2022 19:59:14 GMT -5
I have no issues with battery operated vehicles. My issue is certain segments of society forcing them onto others. It's like outlawing privately owned vehicles and forcing everybody to use public transit. The darn bus doesn't come past the corner of wheat and beans all too often. They need to figure out how to make enough batteries for everyone then figure out how to make enough power to charge them all! Ainβt happeningβ¦.
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Post by esshup on Jan 18, 2022 20:08:10 GMT -5
No arguing about 100% of the torque available instantly. Now lets see that torque still be able to be applied after 20+ hours of run time, and a full battery recharge in 4 hours.
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Post by duff on Jan 18, 2022 20:31:28 GMT -5
I drove a gm spark years ago and it was shocking how fast it accelerated. It wasn't a sporty car either. I am sure the tesla and mustang are quite the ride.
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Post by bullseye69 on Jan 18, 2022 20:36:11 GMT -5
Thats because if it's a 300hp electric motor it has 300hp at zero rpm. There is no waiting for poop to happen.
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Post by HighCotton on Jan 18, 2022 21:39:42 GMT -5
Thats because if it's a 300hp electric motor it has 300hp at zero rpm. There is no waiting for poop to happen. Hey buddy, Ya think if I opted for the Ford F-150 Lightning Electric Truck, I might have a better chance of getting down your driveway!?π
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Post by bullseye69 on Jan 18, 2022 22:03:13 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jan 18, 2022 22:13:27 GMT -5
Some of the questions I have are...
How far can you drive on a charge?
How long does it take to charge?
How many charging cycles are the batteries good for?
How much does the cold affect the batteries?
How much does it cost to replace the batteries when they quit taking a charge?
What's the environmental impact when disposing of the batteries.
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Post by jman46151 on Jan 19, 2022 0:23:00 GMT -5
It's been a few years since I read the article but I believe the main factors limiting electric horsepower output is the capacity of the electrical components and how good the tires are.
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Post by stevein on Jan 19, 2022 2:22:53 GMT -5
Sounds like fun. The only experience with electric vehicles was the forklifts at work. They sure would not give whiplash.
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Post by beermaker on Jan 19, 2022 5:37:44 GMT -5
In addition to the questions from jjas, are the batteries affected by cold temperatures?
I know next to nothing about electric vehicles. I have nothing against them whatsoever. I might be interested if someone can produce a truck comparable to my 2500 Duramax and be at the same price. Until then, my job duties will require diesel power.
One thing I did hear the other day is that owners of electric vehicles get hit with an exclusive tax when registering said vehicle to make up for loss of gas tax revenue. Does anyone know that to be a fact?
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Post by duff on Jan 19, 2022 5:47:35 GMT -5
Pretty sure I have seen all electric semi-trucks. I don't know how affordable or functional they are.
Manufacturers are bought into the idea. Because of that, there will be alternatives, like them or not.
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Post by span870 on Jan 19, 2022 6:50:14 GMT -5
No arguing about 100% of the torque available instantly. Now lets see that torque still be able to be applied after 20+ hours of run time, and a full battery recharge in 4 hours. Wondering here. Is the charge like a lithium battery on a Milwaukee or Dewalt power tool and has full power +/- until it dies. I know on tools there isn't much curve it's just a complete drop.
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Post by span870 on Jan 19, 2022 6:52:02 GMT -5
In addition to the questions from jjas, are the batteries affected by cold temperatures? I know next to nothing about electric vehicles. I have nothing against them whatsoever. I might be interested if someone can produce a truck comparable to my 2500 Duramax and be at the same price. Until then, my job duties will require diesel power. One thing I did hear the other day is that owners of electric vehicles get hit with an exclusive tax when registering said vehicle to make up for loss of gas tax revenue. Does anyone know that to be a fact? Someone did produce a truck comparable and better than that duramax. It's called a Cummins.πππ
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Post by span870 on Jan 19, 2022 6:54:38 GMT -5
Pretty sure I have seen all electric semi-trucks. I don't know how affordable or functional they are. Manufacturers are bought into the idea. Because of that, there will be alternatives, like them or not. They are already producing all electric mixer trucks. Good or bad, idk but it can't be any worse than the idea to put DEF units on a truck that sits idle or less than favorable RPM's for the majority of the day. I'd hate to be the driver that has to tell the finisher that I can't pour anymore mud because I have to charge my truck
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Post by duff on Jan 19, 2022 8:15:31 GMT -5
No arguing about 100% of the torque available instantly. Now lets see that torque still be able to be applied after 20+ hours of run time, and a full battery recharge in 4 hours. Wondering here. Is the charge like a lithium battery on a Milwaukee or Dewalt power tool and has full power +/- until it dies. I know on tools there isn't much curve it's just a complete drop. Not sure but the ones I have been in they have a "fuel" gage that gives you an idea. Traffic jams or like you point out vehicles that idle or have to maintain power for long periods of time will be tricky. GM ceo coined the motto Zero emissions Zero crashes Zero .....I forget She has a date issued for that which I think is 2030. Again, not sure how they get away from internal combustion engines or how willing customers are self driving vehicles.
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Post by duff on Jan 19, 2022 8:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jan 19, 2022 10:52:12 GMT -5
beermaker
I don't know if it's a fact, but I've never seen a politician who isn't going to go for an easy "revenue stream".
In all seriousness, it's probably the fairest way to handle these vehicles.
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Post by jjas on Jan 19, 2022 10:56:27 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp0tGI1KUVUThis is the video that was all over the internet the last couple of weeks. It's where the guy was faced with a $22,000 repair bill to replace the batteries. I can't say I blame him for blowing it up as as $22,000 is ridiculous for battery replacement and it would make me thing that re-sale value on these types of vehicles wouldn't be great.
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