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Post by harmonist34 on Oct 30, 2021 12:48:58 GMT -5
I’m a lousy archery hunter who keeps finding ways to screw up.
Last year, two times I was at full draw with my Vertix when my arrow came unnocked and started sliding off my bow. Because I’m an idiot, I panicked trying to let down and ended up dry firing and blowing the bottom end of the string off my bow both times. Yah, I know. Couldn’t explain it. Never happened practicing, and couldn’t recreate it when I tried.
So, today I was at full draw on a really nice buck and it happened again. Arrow pops loose, though this time I have presence of mind to carefully let down. He goes right under my platform but spooks from movement or scent before I can try again.
Finally figured out the issue, though. I shoot with my arrow’s colored vane to the left, so a vane running perpendicular (if colored vane is up) does not touch the cables. However if my three blade broadhead happens to be oriented with one blade perpendicular, it just nicks the riser at full draw enough to pop the arrow off. Aaaaaaargh.
I found one arrow in my quiver of 5 that’s not oriented that way so it should be safe. I have some 2 blades at home that I could switch to but haven’t practiced with them as much and they need sharpened. Could move arrow rest left but the bow is paper tuned. Can order new arrows but that’s expensive and doesn’t help me this season. Could probably have my draw length shortened but I haven’t practiced that way and would have to move my sight. In a couple tests up here from my saddle it seems like a broadhead goes on the same way on an arrow even if I try and rotate before starting it. Anything else I could try that I haven’t thought of?
Hurts to screw up yet another chance, and on such a nice buck, but I’m glad I didn’t wound him or bust my bow. Aaaaargh.
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Post by BOBinIN on Oct 30, 2021 12:55:36 GMT -5
Have you tried heating the insert with the BH in it and rotating both at the same time?
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Post by harmonist34 on Oct 30, 2021 13:30:58 GMT -5
Haven’t tried but that’s an option.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 30, 2021 14:34:11 GMT -5
Maybe have your arrows cut just a tad bit longer next time.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 30, 2021 14:34:56 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your issues. Especially at such terribly inconvenient moments
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 30, 2021 16:31:47 GMT -5
Have you tried heating the insert with the BH in it and rotating both at the same time? That’s what I would do. Next batch of arrows maybe go an inch longer?
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Post by indianajoe on Oct 30, 2021 19:30:10 GMT -5
I agree arrows to short. arrows cut to short can be dangerous with broadheads on them.
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Post by titanium700 on Oct 31, 2021 10:26:01 GMT -5
Maybe use micro washers to change bh orientation. I like the heating the insert and rotating better though.
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Post by harmonist34 on Oct 31, 2021 12:10:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions, all. I talked to a friend with a history in competition archery who works on his own bows. He had a bunch of questions - why is my rest that close to the riser, are my arrows under or over-spined, etc.
So I think I've got a short term problem with some practical short term solutions to get me through the season...then a much bigger process in the off-season.
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Post by harmonist34 on Oct 31, 2021 13:38:59 GMT -5
Well...doing some tests today trying to understand the issue better. Was wondering if torque was part of the issue from my unnatural drawing motion in a saddle. I tried putting some torque on during the draw and blew up my bow. At best, need new strings and cables. Worst case also damaged one or both cams and who knows what else. Won't make that mistake again, but it's going to be an expensive one.
Sigh.
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Post by schall53 on Oct 31, 2021 13:53:19 GMT -5
Well...doing some tests today trying to understand the issue better. Was wondering if torque was part of the issue from my unnatural drawing motion in a saddle. I tried putting some torque on during the draw and blew up my bow. At best, need new strings and cables. Worst case also damaged one or both cams and who knows what else. Won't make that mistake again, but it's going to be an expensive one. Sigh. Oh man, sorry to hear that.
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Post by harmonist34 on Oct 31, 2021 20:21:53 GMT -5
It's my fault - I'm not mechanical and don't think things through before I do them.
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Post by harmonist34 on Nov 1, 2021 23:17:18 GMT -5
Went to Bass & Bucks today. Good news - Vertix just needs string/cable replacement, which they're going to help me with, though it'll take at least a couple weeks. No cam or limb damage.
In the interest of saving my bow season, I just went ahead and bought a new bow today. Figure I'll either keep the Vertix as a backup bow or find a buyer for it and recoup some of my money.
Shoulder's sore from all the shooting today, but need to get practicing again tomorrow as I hope to feel confident enough to hunt by Friday!
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Post by raydon on Nov 2, 2021 5:29:23 GMT -5
Bass & Bucks is only a twenty minute drive for me. So what bow did you get? New arrows?
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Post by jman46151 on Nov 2, 2021 8:25:25 GMT -5
Went to Bass & Bucks today. Good news - Vertix just needs string/cable replacement, which they're going to help me with, though it'll take at least a couple weeks. No cam or limb damage. In the interest of saving my bow season, I just went ahead and bought a new bow today. Figure I'll either keep the Vertix as a backup bow or find a buyer for it and recoup some of my money. Shoulder's sore from all the shooting today, but need to get practicing again tomorrow as I hope to feel confident enough to hunt by Friday! What bow did you get?
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Post by harmonist34 on Nov 2, 2021 9:51:31 GMT -5
Shot newest Mathews and Hoyt options but ultimately liked the PSE Evo 32 the best. Loved the balance in my hand, draw cycle, back wall. Switched to a limb-driven drop away rest and got new arrows. Should end up around 440 grains.
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Post by genesis273 on Nov 2, 2021 13:10:42 GMT -5
Glad you didn't get hurt with the bow mishap. Congratulations on the new set up.
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