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Post by HighCotton on Apr 5, 2021 9:53:43 GMT -5
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Post by medic22 on Apr 5, 2021 10:48:21 GMT -5
Because we continue to vote for representatives that are irresponsible with money.
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Post by jjas on Apr 5, 2021 11:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by beermaker on Apr 5, 2021 12:13:12 GMT -5
In my opinion, the biggest problem with higher education (other than being ran by liberals) is the amount of time and money wasted on irrelevant courses. Does anyone really care what history classes their dentist took? Do you care what grade your accountant got in chemistry? Not me. I want my dentist to focus on science and dental courses and my accountant to be darn good at math and tax law. I would venture to say that at least 50% of the credit hours required to graduate with a four-year degree are spent on irrelevant subjects.
While we are at it, let's get rid of useless degrees. Can someone tell me what specific job one with a degree in Gender Studies is prepared for the day after graduation?
We have been encouraging our oldest daughter to become interested in a subject that will in fact prepare her for a specific line of work the day after graduation. We will NOT pay to send her to college with no clear path towards a legitimate career. I know, circumstances and interests change, but we want her to at least start out in the right direction.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Apr 5, 2021 14:32:13 GMT -5
Heck, right now most could attend college mainly for free and/or get most paid for. Got to know where to look.
Won’t be your big name colleges but it’s still a degree.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Apr 5, 2021 17:40:15 GMT -5
In my opinion, the biggest problem with higher education (other than being ran by liberals) is the amount of time and money wasted on irrelevant courses. Does anyone really care what history classes their dentist took? Do you care what grade your accountant got in chemistry? Not me. I want my dentist to focus on science and dental courses and my accountant to be darn good at math and tax law. I would venture to say that at least 50% of the credit hours required to graduate with a four-year degree are spent on irrelevant subjects. While we are at it, let's get rid of useless degrees. Can someone tell me what specific job one with a degree in Gender Studies is prepared for the day after graduation? We have been encouraging our oldest daughter to become interested in a subject that will in fact prepare her for a specific line of work the day after graduation. We will NOT pay to send her to college with no clear path towards a legitimate career. I know, circumstances and interests change, but we want her to at least start out in the right direction. This is 100% spot on. I have a degree in computer information systems, could’ve cared less about the history, anatomy and biology, humanities, etc courses. A waste of my time and money. Oh let’s not forget the table tennis class for my PE credit I needed. Although I loved that and no one could beat me all semester, including the instructor. |
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Post by duff on Apr 5, 2021 17:48:00 GMT -5
In my opinion, the biggest problem with higher education (other than being ran by liberals) is the amount of time and money wasted on irrelevant courses. Does anyone really care what history classes their dentist took? Do you care what grade your accountant got in chemistry? Not me. I want my dentist to focus on science and dental courses and my accountant to be darn good at math and tax law. I would venture to say that at least 50% of the credit hours required to graduate with a four-year degree are spent on irrelevant subjects. While we are at it, let's get rid of useless degrees. Can someone tell me what specific job one with a degree in Gender Studies is prepared for the day after graduation? We have been encouraging our oldest daughter to become interested in a subject that will in fact prepare her for a specific line of work the day after graduation. We will NOT pay to send her to college with no clear path towards a legitimate career. I know, circumstances and interests change, but we want her to at least start out in the right direction. This is 100% spot on. I have a degree in computer information systems, could’ve cared less about the history, anatomy and biology, humanities, etc courses. A waste of my time and money. Oh let’s not forget the table tennis class for my PE credit I needed. Although I loved that and no one could beat me all semester, including the instructor. Lol mine was advanced walking...nailed it! I agree the liberal arts degree is a money maker for the university. Had nothing to do with a rounded education. Music history about killed my spirit |
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Post by greghopper on Apr 5, 2021 17:53:32 GMT -5
In my opinion, the biggest problem with higher education (other than being ran by liberals) is the amount of time and money wasted on irrelevant courses. Does anyone really care what history classes their dentist took? Do you care what grade your accountant got in chemistry? Not me. I want my dentist to focus on science and dental courses and my accountant to be darn good at math and tax law. I would venture to say that at least 50% of the credit hours required to graduate with a four-year degree are spent on irrelevant subjects. While we are at it, let's get rid of useless degrees. Can someone tell me what specific job one with a degree in Gender Studies is prepared for the day after graduation? We have been encouraging our oldest daughter to become interested in a subject that will in fact prepare her for a specific line of work the day after graduation. We will NOT pay to send her to college with no clear path towards a legitimate career. I know, circumstances and interests change, but we want her to at least start out in the right direction. This is 100% spot on. I have a degree in computer information systems, could’ve cared less about the history, anatomy and biology, humanities, etc courses. A waste of my time and money. Oh let’s not forget the table tennis class for my PE credit I needed. Although I loved that and no one could beat me all semester, including the instructor. Well... with that biology degree you at least leaned that if your Grandparents couldn’t have kids you couldn’t also! Hehe |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Apr 5, 2021 18:52:25 GMT -5
The most valuable lesson I learned in college is how to BS! Lol
No regrets though, I really do like where that degree and skill got me so far.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Apr 5, 2021 19:01:20 GMT -5
The most valuable lesson I learned in college is how to BS! Lol No regrets though, I really do like where that degree and skill got me so far. I’m right with ya. Can’t complain about where I’m at in life right now. |
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Post by HighCotton on Apr 5, 2021 19:06:33 GMT -5
I just had an interesting discussion with my grandsons over dinner.
They’re still young, 12, 13 and 14.
They were talking about what they want to be “when they grow up!”
The more we chatted, the more excited they got when I suggested that I feel one of the better routes these days is for them to look at the trades.
Not sure where this discussion will go in the future but as for now it makes for an interesting topic and an interesting journey!
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Post by gumbootbill on Apr 5, 2021 19:32:48 GMT -5
This is 100% spot on. I have a degree in computer information systems, could’ve cared less about the history, anatomy and biology, humanities, etc courses. A waste of my time and money. Oh let’s not forget the table tennis class for my PE credit I needed. Although I loved that and no one could beat me all semester, including the instructor. Lol mine was advanced walking...nailed it! I agree the liberal arts degree is a money maker for the university. Had nothing to do with a rounded education. Music history about killed my spirit |
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Post by gumbootbill on Apr 5, 2021 19:35:54 GMT -5
My daughter took bowling class at IU she said it was to learn strategy. For an elementary teaching degree.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Apr 5, 2021 20:13:07 GMT -5
I just had an interesting discussion with my grandsons over dinner. They’re still young, 12, 13 and 14. They were talking about what they want to be “when they grow up!” The more we chatted, the more excited they got when I suggested that I feel one of the better routes these days is for them to look at the trades. Not sure where this discussion will go in the future but as for now it makes for an interesting topic and an interesting journey! We have talked to our 15 year old son about this multiple time. I’d say they wouldn’t have any issue finding employment the way things are going today. He is leaning towards some sort of engineering as of now. |
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Post by deadeer on Apr 5, 2021 22:12:00 GMT -5
Trades will be highly sought after, actually they already are. We cant get anybody to work in over the road diesel mechanics. My buddy is a union sheetmetal worker, and they have to constantly get guys from other locals to finish jobs. Electricians, plumbers, welders, even truck drivers, etc, right down the line are all in demand. I wish I would have gotten into something a little easier on my body, but other physical things in life by choice have wore me down. College is definately not for everybody.
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Post by beermaker on Apr 6, 2021 4:47:19 GMT -5
Trades will be highly sought after, actually they already are. We cant get anybody to work in over the road diesel mechanics. My buddy is a union sheetmetal worker, and they have to constantly get guys from other locals to finish jobs. Electricians, plumbers, welders, even truck drivers, etc, right down the line are all in demand. I wish I would have gotten into something a little easier on my body, but other physical things in life by choice have wore me down. College is definately not for everybody. As someone who is on construction sites every day, I can say that the above statement is 100% true and should concern us all. Rarely, if ever, do I witness an individual under 40 that is worth a darn at a skilled trade. The "lead guys" are always the same and the helpers are young misfits and drifters. Who is going to service AC's, water heaters, electric panels, etc. in 15-20 years? I went to a family funeral a few weeks ago and was talking to a cousin who has twin sons just out of high school. One is going to IU (probably on student loans) and the other wants to be an electrician. That made me smile. He is a good kid that realizes that college is not the career path he wants to take. There are dozens of mfg facilities where they live and are always hiring electricians for maintenance. That's what he wants to do and recognizes the way to get there is to start nailing on boxes and pulling wire. |
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Post by scrub-buster on Apr 6, 2021 6:13:37 GMT -5
The electrical maintenance field is growing fast from what I've seen. If I was a teenager right now that's the direction I think I would go for training. My daughter is a sophomore in college. She is wanting to be a physical therapist.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Apr 6, 2021 7:25:22 GMT -5
There is also a huge shortage of electrical, software and IT engineers. Even mechanical and chemistry is in shortage. Even at my age I get calls almost everyday. Companies calling directly trying to get me to quit and work for them. Even if it's only a few years. There are so many companies struggling to find skilled trade or engineer educated workforce.
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Post by HighCotton on Apr 6, 2021 7:27:20 GMT -5
I have no regrets for the time and effort to earn my Biology degree from Purdue. Then, as I was pursuing my Master's in Microbiology from IU, I realized there was no way I wanted to spend my time akin to a research scientist.
So, I never completed my Masters!
I've spent the last 30+ years, diving into interest that I felt more worthwhile.
Fields, licenses, certifications to include Various categories as an Indiana Commercial Pesticide Applicator, Wastewater Operators license, Backflow (Cross Connection) license, etc.
Then my son (Purdue EE and IU MBA) and I took various courses like welding, machining and EET courses through Ivy Tech and the local Central Nine schools.
No doubt, my Purdue degree got me into the field and career I have enjoyed for years.
But, I have gained much more knowledge and hands on experience from the path taken versus a Masters in Microbiology!
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Post by blackmouthcur on Apr 6, 2021 15:13:17 GMT -5
I agree, why do I have to pay school taxes when I don’t have any kids in school, but every year I do. If they want to go to school let em run a kool-aid stand.
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