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Post by bartiks on Feb 20, 2021 19:34:01 GMT -5
Thoughts on this? I've done some looking and I'm hoping that it's something simple, but then again I think I'm in denial about it. Please give me some input. My contractor that I had do the house is telling me that it's nothing really, he says that water and ice do weird things when there is an ice damn. And yes I know I need to get some snow stoppers put up and insulate a little better along the area where there is heat loss to help prevent this from happening. Thanks all and please go gentle. Going to try to post some pics.
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Post by bartiks on Feb 20, 2021 19:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by duff on Feb 20, 2021 19:44:26 GMT -5
No idea. Looks like it has potential since the water is under the overhang. But I have no experience to say 1 way or the other
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Post by esshup on Feb 20, 2021 20:07:29 GMT -5
Ice dams can cause a lot of damage. It is caused by hot air in the attic melting the snow on the roof, then when the snow hits the eaves where the insulation is minimal, then the water freezes and builds up. You will see ice 4"+ thick right at the gutter, that allows the water to back up on the roof and get underneath the shingles and tar paper. When you have a new roof put on, have them put 2 layers of ice block fabric at the very edge of the roof. Usually 1 layer is enough (30" or so) but I did 2 layers on my roof when it was replaced about 12 years ago. Some things you can do to prevent the problem in the future, in order of cheap to expensive: 1) Go buy a snow rake and rake the snow off the roof as far as you can reach with it. This is the one that I have: Snow Rake2) Put heating cables on the roof, in the gutter and down the downspouts. They are called gutter heaters. www.lowes.com/pd/EasyHeat-ADKS-60-ft-300-Watt-Roof-Heat-Cable/3115535?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-171-_-pipewrapandwinterization-_-3115535-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiAg8OBBhA8EiwAlKw3kv6mRLuuztljqRPEf5jV0CByIuxmtGqxPHj4AKoH77475x6wWUuTHBoCFbEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.dsThey will require an outlet or 6 outside the house under the eaves and tied into their own circuit breaker or two because of the electric draw if the run is long. Dad put them on the house that I grew up in, and they worked great. 3) Insulate the crap out of the attic and cut in more attic vents. You want it cold enough up there so the snow doesn't melt on the roof from the heat from the house. 4) Tear off shingles, install ice block, reinstall shingles. (If water got into the house or exterior walls, you might have to do this anyway to repair any water damage or stop any mold from growing.) |
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Post by featherduster on Feb 20, 2021 21:01:57 GMT -5
Two things first get in the attic and crawl around checking for trouble.
Second find these salt pucks that you throw up on your roof and it quickly melts that ice that is building.
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 20, 2021 21:18:27 GMT -5
More roof vents won't help much. They get covered with snow just like they weren't there but if you put a vent on the side of the house , at each end if you can, it will help keep it from holding heat.
Best thing to do is use the roof rake after it stops snowing and clear aboot 4' of the snow from the gutters.
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Post by treetop on Feb 21, 2021 12:18:49 GMT -5
Definitely something to worry about the last two foot of your plywood will be trash in no time if that keeps up and you maybe even getting water in your wall I’d say at the least it’s behind the siding right now
Looks like a metal roof the only way to put ice and water shield down now is tear the whole roof off not ideal
Just a question did they strip your roof with 1x4 wood to hold it off the roof if not they should of tin sweats easy
Few things you could try they make a snow clip that you install on the roof it helps keep the snow in place and lets it melt instead all sliding down to the edge it’s made more to keep big chunks from sliding down you’ll see them more on commercial buildings for safety
2nd it’s hard to tell but it looks like all your soffit is solid I’d change at least every third one to vented if not every other
3 rd as said they make a wire heater you can install to melt the the ice I don’t think it’s the best long term but could work right now
4 th as you know your short on insulation that needs added myself I’d change the vents in the soffit add air deflectors they are sheets of foam that mount on the underside of the roof so air can still get in the attic when you blow it out to the edge you can stuff batt insulation Or cardboard at the end of every joist to keep it from blowing out
You want to make sure you have something to let air out be it ridge vent vents or gable vents. Air moving in your attic is the best thing you can do to insure a long lasting roof
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Post by featherduster on Feb 21, 2021 13:56:42 GMT -5
I don't mean to keep you up at night but you have some serious problems going on with that water running down the walls.
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Post by bartiks on Feb 21, 2021 21:12:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies guys, this is the only spot on the entire house that is doing this. I'm going to wait until it dries out a little and then get up on a ladder and check it out. My contractor that did the work said that the water is getting behind the gutter and then on top of the soffit, runs and hits the "F" channel and then comes out on the siding. I've spoken with a couple of other guys here in town about it and they said before you go crazy and start tearing off the roof check to see what he drip edge is going. they say it could be as simple as bending the drip edge out to ensure that it drops off into the gutter. At any rate I'll kind of let you know. Thanks once again.
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