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Post by onebentarrow on Jan 7, 2021 11:07:05 GMT -5
What happened Wednesday will be used by the people taking power to justify stripping you of the rights you were born with as an American: Your right to speak without being censored, your right to assemble, to not be spied upon, to make a living, and to defend your family.These are the most basic and ancient freedoms that we have. They're why we live here in the first place. They're why we're proud to be Americans. They're what make us different, and they're all now in peril. When thousands of your countrymen storm the Capitol building, you don't have to like it. We don't. You can be horrified by the violence, and we are. But if you don't bother to pause and learn a single thing from your citizens storming your Capitol building, then you're a fool, you lack wisdom and self-awareness, and you have no place running a country. We got to this sad, chaotic day for a reason. Pretty good piece and very insightful and well said. The only part that gave me major heartburn is the rant about democracy. I`m left scratching my head every time I hear this nonsense. The Founders made it extremely clear that they not only strongly disliked the very notion of a democracy, but it terrified them. They understood that in a true democracy, a mob majority would strip the few of their rights, that cultural winds, instead of the eternal truths of the Bible, would drive society and the laws that govern The People. Instead they left us with the US Constitution, in which freedoms and individual liberties are protected from both mob majorities, and, an out of control, overbearing government. These "protesters" were not fans of President Trump, they we paid bad actors, but, as this government becomes more and more oblivious to their assault on the Constitution, that sad day could well come when, patriots will indeed have to make the tough, soul-searing choices the Founders made nearly 245 years ago. Mr Wales I have some questions You call the protesters in DC "paid bad actors" Who paid them? Whew did the money come from? Are you implying ALL the people were "paid bad actors" or just some. I ask this because I know two who went and they were not PAID and another couple that could not go because they did not have enough money to cover expenses and I my self did not go because of lack of funds. I have been up front with my thoughts and opinions on this form and what I saw I liked and disliked. I liked the fact that people went to DC to show support for a conservative plat form (I voted for Trump because of the platform he represents not Trump him self. I do not like him as a person) and to display a dissatisfaction with all the short comings in this election process this year. But I did not like the overrunning of the capital. I think it gives more likely hood of repressive legislation in the near future. I did like that there was no looting,fires or beatings by the protesters and no gun fire from them as you and I both know meny were carrying because of their beliefs in the 2A. I do believe there were some there that just wanted to cause trouble and did not accully support the beliefs of the majority of the people but to just say ALL were paid actors is like calling all hunters poachers because of a fue that poach. I would really like to know if you think all were paid bad actors or like me think most were good people voicing ther support for a conservative platform and dis pleasure with the preceding election debacle with a fue trouble makers(for lack of a better word) present. Respectfully Onebentarrow
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 11:25:48 GMT -5
Wayne the problem the President started and spread this Lie. The election was not fraudulent no courts would look at. Evidence was there ever any No. All Lies. Wayne if president Trump would have never said fraudulent election would you have jumped on that bandwagon? Be honest now you might of thought man I thought he would win but you never would have pushed out idea of rigged election. So it was not the people who thought of rigged election it was the President who constantly pushed that thought. And the result is what you saw yesterday. There are plenty of court documents avidities from USA-Germany-Italy about computer fraud. There are also a few surveillance videos clearly showing fraud. if you read the other countries websites you will discover there is a lot of censorship and media control of the data that is given to the public. Israel news is one of the best non censored media and believe or not so is Russia (at least it's better than USA) . I have an experiment for you. Go to your ethernet provider and ask that you want a direct access to a public internet line. Note: There is a fee for that temporary service. Also note, be ready for hackers from all direction. Make sure you are monitoring the connection. Wire shark is okay to use. Then we can have a better conversation. They may turn you down or know why you need this path. By the way we are not connected to the World Internet, but to your provider intranet. They can also censor what you read and see. I'm blessed with a public line access at work. I get to see what most can't.
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Post by vikings on Jan 7, 2021 12:10:43 GMT -5
Wayne when you say clearly show fraud what video is that a suitcase whats in it what you say is in it you have no proof only beliefs drummed into your head please send me link showing fraud. I will remind you everyday now to send it to me. Iam waiting.
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Post by esshup on Jan 7, 2021 13:53:21 GMT -5
Well, Trump managed to get his Twitter account locked. What took so long??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 14:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by vikings on Jan 7, 2021 14:40:14 GMT -5
Wayne really how in the heck does that prove fraud in our election. I am waiting please send me proof. You have NONE.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 14:42:05 GMT -5
Pretty good piece and very insightful and well said. The only part that gave me major heartburn is the rant about democracy. I`m left scratching my head every time I hear this nonsense. The Founders made it extremely clear that they not only strongly disliked the very notion of a democracy, but it terrified them. They understood that in a true democracy, a mob majority would strip the few of their rights, that cultural winds, instead of the eternal truths of the Bible, would drive society and the laws that govern The People. Instead they left us with the US Constitution, in which freedoms and individual liberties are protected from both mob majorities, and, an out of control, overbearing government. These "protesters" were not fans of President Trump, they we paid bad actors, but, as this government becomes more and more oblivious to their assault on the Constitution, that sad day could well come when, patriots will indeed have to make the tough, soul-searing choices the Founders made nearly 245 years ago. Mr Wales I have some questions You call the protesters in DC "paid bad actors" Who paid them? Whew did the money come from? Are you implying ALL the people were "paid bad actors" or just some. I ask this because I know two who went and they were not PAID and another couple that could not go because they did not have enough money to cover expenses and I my self did not go because of lack of funds. I have been up front with my thoughts and opinions on this form and what I saw I liked and disliked. I liked the fact that people went to DC to show support for a conservative plat form (I voted for Trump because of the platform he represents not Trump him self. I do not like him as a person) and to display a dissatisfaction with all the short comings in this election process this year. But I did not like the overrunning of the capital. I think it gives more likely hood of repressive legislation in the near future. I did like that there was no looting,fires or beatings by the protesters and no gun fire from them as you and I both know meny were carrying because of their beliefs in the 2A. I do believe there were some there that just wanted to cause trouble and did not accully support the beliefs of the majority of the people but to just say ALL were paid actors is like calling all hunters poachers because of a fue that poach. I would really like to know if you think all were paid bad actors or like me think most were good people voicing ther support for a conservative platform and dis pleasure with the preceding election debacle with a fue trouble makers(for lack of a better word) present. Respectfully Onebentarrow Certainly there were everyday people there, and that was the majority of those who were truly there to support a conservative platform as well as this President. I fully believe that those who broke into the Capitol Building were antifa plants, pretending to be supporters of this President so as to further give this overbearing despotic government the approval of the masses, the sheep, to further strip We the People of our rights, as well as further persecute this man. Think back to the destruction in Portland. Regular, everyday working people don`t riot and provoke law enforcement for 40 days, or whatever that total was. There were likely some non-paid, professional agitators, just regular people, who joined in with the pros, that happens too. But the majority were paid, and it`s the same with the agitators the other day at the US Capitol Building. There is an agenda being worked out here by liberals, and it`s end game is to strip you of your rights, your guns, your authority over government. Period.
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Post by jjas on Jan 7, 2021 14:50:57 GMT -5
So why hasn't this been handed to someone like Fox News?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 14:54:05 GMT -5
Now the question is who will be the President this year. With the Italy news today Biden will be out and so is Trump per Congress vote yesterday. I guess. Congress and the 18 States affected will be in new waters on what to do. Correct electoral votes and resend to Congress. How long will this take? I guess the best thing is for Congress rescheduling the confirmation on the 20th to a later day. The have the power to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 14:55:00 GMT -5
So why hasn't this been handed to someone like Fox News? Owned by the people involved. Foxnews is a liberal owned company. Italy and their people have no ties to Fox news and most of USA media News. PS: This was one of my inside information I know of. The USA Military know that the computers changed in Frankfort, but not be whom.
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Post by jjas on Jan 7, 2021 14:58:51 GMT -5
So why hasn't this been handed to someone like Fox News? Owned by the people involved. Foxnews is a liberal owned company. Italy and their people have no ties to Fox news and most of USA media News. PS: This was one of my inside information I know of. The USA Military know that the computers changed in Frankfort, but not be whom. So how does this become public knowledge? A video on youtube isn't going to cut it. This would need to get in the hands of someone in the Republican party who is willing to make it public and stand behind it.
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Post by buckbuster13 on Jan 7, 2021 19:13:13 GMT -5
I dont doubt antifa was there but Trump should have never called for this rally. Things are so charged right now it was destined to end violently. You`re not getting this...these were not supporters of the President, they were paid bad actors. Period. Even if these had been the President`s supporters, he wouldn`t be responsible, they are responsible for their actions, we had already established that. But these are actors, portraying the President`s supporters so they and the media could further demonize conservatives. Dear God!
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Post by bill9068 on Jan 7, 2021 19:16:31 GMT -5
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Post by buckbuster13 on Jan 7, 2021 19:26:46 GMT -5
I read some of these post and cannot believe the thinking of some. But for Trump he is done never will see him run for office again. Yeah I don’t get it probably never will, but somebody has drank the Kool Aid!
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 7, 2021 19:42:28 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Jan 7, 2021 19:51:18 GMT -5
Amen...... let’s move forward as a group also! Trump 2024
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Post by medic22 on Jan 7, 2021 19:52:41 GMT -5
Yeah, after this week that's a pretty good way to get Biden again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 19:53:01 GMT -5
BRAVO! Thank you President Trump! But for liberals, nothing is ever enough and their delusional "thinking" is beyond bizarre. When the President sent Federal law-enforcement to quell the paid bad actors in Portland, they howled, and then the other day, howled because the National Guard deployment wasn`t either instantaneous, or retroactive. They hate President Trump, they hate all of your freedoms and individual liberties, and they hate the United States of America.
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Post by jjas on Jan 7, 2021 20:14:09 GMT -5
It's good to see President Trump swallow his pride and take the high road. I'm sure it wasn't easy for him to do. Now, If some here could just do the same...
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 7, 2021 20:59:40 GMT -5
Yeah, after this week that's a pretty good way to get Biden again. Biden will be lucky to get through 4 years.
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