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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2021 17:49:38 GMT -5
Were any of you actually there? I was and there was no violence when I was there, that was from 10am to 4 pm. So your saying the reports of violence is false/fake? WoW... anything possible I guess!
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2021 17:50:43 GMT -5
There are reports of antifa being there posing as trump supporters. Media wont pick up on it Stevie Wonder could see that they are paid bad actors, but some will refuse to see. Put Ray Charles on that list also... ha
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 17:53:52 GMT -5
There are reports of antifa being there posing as trump supporters. Media wont pick up on it There may be people manipulating the situation but let's go to the root. If Trump would have shut his mouth and not egged these people on this wouldn't have happened. He's also the reason we lost Georgia, screaming fraud from the rooftops with no evidence then he's surprised when Republicans don't show up to vote...
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Post by muscrat on Jan 6, 2021 18:00:14 GMT -5
Were any of you actually there? I was and there was no violence when I was there, that was from 10am to 4 pm. So your saying the reports of violence is false/fake? WoW... anything possible I guess! When I was there I didn’t see or hear of any violence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:00:29 GMT -5
There are reports of antifa being there posing as trump supporters. Media wont pick up on it There may be people manipulating the situation but let's go to the root. If Trump would have shut his mouth and not egged these people one this wouldn't have happened. He's also the reason we lost Georgia, screaming fraud from the rooftops with no evidence then he's surprised when Republicans don't show up to vote... No, the President is not responsible for the actions of others, everyone decides for themselves what they will and will not do. The only people responsible for what`s happening in DC are those who are actively participating in this circus. As to him "running his mouth", again, I don`t agree with everything he says or the way he says it, but, there are enough irregularities with the election, and the stakes are high enough, the irresponsible thing would have been to not demand accountability and a thorough examination of the so called results.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:04:51 GMT -5
There may be people manipulating the situation but let's go to the root. If Trump would have shut his mouth and not egged these people one this wouldn't have happened. He's also the reason we lost Georgia, screaming fraud from the rooftops with no evidence then he's surprised when Republicans don't show up to vote... No, the President is not responsible for the actions of others, everyone decides for themselves what they will and will not do. The only people responsible for what`s happening in DC are those who are actively participating in this circus. As to him "running his mouth", again, I don`t agree with everything he says or the way he says it, but, there are enough irregularities with the election, and the stakes are high enough, the irresponsible thing would have been to not demand accountability and a thorough examination of the so called results. You are correct that people are responsible for their own actions. However when you whip a group into a frenzy "group think" takes over. I also agree that there are irregularities, however I have yet to see hard evidence of this. If he is so sure of it where is this evidence? Also if he was so sure of it then why did he basically tell the GA AG to come up with votes. I voted for him twice but I really hope that he does not run in 2024 because he has ruined his stake with me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:05:37 GMT -5
There may be people manipulating the situation but let's go to the root. If Trump would have shut his mouth and not egged these people one this wouldn't have happened. He's also the reason we lost Georgia, screaming fraud from the rooftops with no evidence then he's surprised when Republicans don't show up to vote... No, the President is not responsible for the actions of others, everyone decides for themselves what they will and will not do. The only people responsible for what`s happening in DC are those who are actively participating in this circus. As to him "running his mouth", again, I don`t agree with everything he says or the way he says it, but, there are enough irregularities with the election, and the stakes are high enough, the irresponsible thing would have been to not demand accountability and a thorough examination of the so called results. You are correct that people are responsible for their own actions. However when you whip a group into a frenzy "group think" takes over. I also agree that there are irregularities, however I have yet to see hard evidence of this. If he is so sure of it where is this evidence? Also if he was so sure of it then why did he basically tell the GA AG to come up with votes. I voted for him twice but I really hope that he does not run in 2024 because he has ruined his stake with me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:12:37 GMT -5
No, the President is not responsible for the actions of others, everyone decides for themselves what they will and will not do. The only people responsible for what`s happening in DC are those who are actively participating in this circus. As to him "running his mouth", again, I don`t agree with everything he says or the way he says it, but, there are enough irregularities with the election, and the stakes are high enough, the irresponsible thing would have been to not demand accountability and a thorough examination of the so called results. You are correct that people are responsible for their own actions. However when you whip a group into a frenzy "group think" takes over. I also agree that there are irregularities, however I have yet to see hard evidence of this. If he is so sure of it where is this evidence? Also if he was so sure of it then why did he basically tell the GA AG to come up with votes. I voted for him twice but I really hope that he does not run in 2024 because he has ruined his stake with me. Either people are responsible for their own actions or they`re not, it doesn`t go both ways, you cannot say, yes, they`re responsible for their own actions, but... And, you are making the assumption that these are really Trump supporters. I still say they are not. This media is as corrupt and complicit as are any and all of our elected employees that routinely violate the United States Constitution in order to both appease their masters and protect their own control and power over The People.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Jan 6, 2021 18:15:54 GMT -5
There may be people manipulating the situation but let's go to the root. If Trump would have shut his mouth and not egged these people one this wouldn't have happened. He's also the reason we lost Georgia, screaming fraud from the rooftops with no evidence then he's surprised when Republicans don't show up to vote... No, the President is not responsible for the actions of others, everyone decides for themselves what they will and will not do. The only people responsible for what`s happening in DC are those who are actively participating in this circus. As to him "running his mouth", again, I don`t agree with everything he says or the way he says it, but, there are enough irregularities with the election, and the stakes are high enough, the irresponsible thing would have been to not demand accountability and a thorough examination of the so called results. When you are the POTUS you are responsible for the words coming out of your mouth. What he has done is yell “ fire “ in a theater when none existed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:18:22 GMT -5
You are correct that people are responsible for their own actions. However when you whip a group into a frenzy "group think" takes over. I also agree that there are irregularities, however I have yet to see hard evidence of this. If he is so sure of it where is this evidence? Also if he was so sure of it then why did he basically tell the GA AG to come up with votes. I voted for him twice but I really hope that he does not run in 2024 because he has ruined his stake with me. Either people are responsible for their own actions or they`re not, it doesn`t go both ways, you cannot say, yes, they`re responsible for their own actions, but... And, you are making the assumption that these are really Trump supporters. I still say they are not. This media is as corrupt and complicit as are any and all of our elected employees that routinely violate the United States Constitution in order to both appease their masters and protect their own control and power over The People. You're arguing that there is an absolute to this. Yes people are responsible for their own actions, however people can be mislead, and thus make poorly informed decisions. In which case there is culpability on multiple sides. The person misleading them and the people acting upon their emotions. Both are wrong and both are responsible. People need to stop acting like Trump and this crowd are beyond reproach. And we need to stop acting like everything is some kind of inside job. Yes there are a lot of subversive acts aimed at our Republic but its not always the case. Trump is not acting on facts he is acting on emotion because his ego can't take it. (Sorry for typos, typed on a phone)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:18:55 GMT -5
No, the President is not responsible for the actions of others, everyone decides for themselves what they will and will not do. The only people responsible for what`s happening in DC are those who are actively participating in this circus. As to him "running his mouth", again, I don`t agree with everything he says or the way he says it, but, there are enough irregularities with the election, and the stakes are high enough, the irresponsible thing would have been to not demand accountability and a thorough examination of the so called results. When you are the POTUS you are responsible for the words coming out of your mouth. What he has done is yell “ fire “ in a theater when none existed. Exactly
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 6, 2021 18:21:29 GMT -5
The only violence I've seen online so far today was a poor unarmed girl being shot through a door by Capitol police: WATCH AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:25:07 GMT -5
Either people are responsible for their own actions or they`re not, it doesn`t go both ways, you cannot say, yes, they`re responsible for their own actions, but... And, you are making the assumption that these are really Trump supporters. I still say they are not. This media is as corrupt and complicit as are any and all of our elected employees that routinely violate the United States Constitution in order to both appease their masters and protect their own control and power over The People. You're arguing that there is an absolute to this. Yes people are responsible for their own actions, however people can be mislead, and thus make poorly informed decisions. In which case there is culpability on multiple sides. The person misleading them and the people acting upon their emotions. Both are wrong and both are responsible. People need to stop acting like Trump and this crowd are beyond reproach. And we need to stop acting like everything is some kind of inside job. Yes there are a lot of subversive acts aimed at our Republic but its not always the case. Trump is not acting on facts he is acting on emotion because his ego can't take it. (Sorry for typos, typed on a phone) No worries on the typos, that`s of no importance. But I`ll disagree with you on most of the rest. It`s fashionable currently to bash President Trump, and I`ve never been very fashionable. Our Republic is indeed being misled and subverted, but it`s by liberals, their handlers, and their propaganda machine, the mainstream media.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:26:14 GMT -5
When you are the POTUS you are responsible for the words coming out of your mouth. What he has done is yell “ fire “ in a theater when none existed. Exactly No, not exactly. That`s an opinion, and has about that much value...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:27:15 GMT -5
You're arguing that there is an absolute to this. Yes people are responsible for their own actions, however people can be mislead, and thus make poorly informed decisions. In which case there is culpability on multiple sides. The person misleading them and the people acting upon their emotions. Both are wrong and both are responsible. People need to stop acting like Trump and this crowd are beyond reproach. And we need to stop acting like everything is some kind of inside job. Yes there are a lot of subversive acts aimed at our Republic but its not always the case. Trump is not acting on facts he is acting on emotion because his ego can't take it. (Sorry for typos, typed on a phone) No worries on the typos, that`s of no importance. But I`ll disagree with you on most of the rest. It`s fashionable currently to bash President Trump, and I`ve never been very fashionable. Our Republic is indeed being misled and subverted, but it`s by liberals, their handlers, and their propaganda machine, the mainstream media. It is the liberals, the media etc. However Trump is not helping and is only making things worse.
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Post by jjas on Jan 6, 2021 18:28:31 GMT -5
It's terrible that she was shot and killed (and my heart goes out to her family), but when you are part of a mob storming the Capital, things like this are likely to happen.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Jan 6, 2021 18:41:16 GMT -5
No, not exactly. That`s an opinion, and has about that much value... Then post proof of fraud. I want to see it. Post proof that these people are liberals dressed up as Trumpers. Post proof not propaganda.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 6, 2021 18:45:37 GMT -5
Rumor has it that the dead girl was 16 years old.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:48:19 GMT -5
Rumor has it that the dead girl was 16 years old. We need to get the details and determine if this was a negligent act.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 6, 2021 18:51:51 GMT -5
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