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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 11, 2020 20:14:39 GMT -5
Got my two old rim fire rifles out today to get ready for squirrels season. Haven't shot iron on a rifle in years!!! Pistol yes rifle no. Using CCI short hollow point high velocity ammo. My eyes ain't what they used to be for sure. Shootin squirrels will be a real challenge. Target on the left is the flobert. Was shooting high if I cover the target with the front sightt. Put target on top of the post works better to see what your shootin at. Target on the right is the win. Set it up the same so easier to see target. Target is at 25 yards and was just using a tree stump to rest on. Shot 5 ,five shot groups. Not sure what that one flyer is aboot. Only bad part is both actions are different. The flobert cocks when you operate the bolt. The win has to be cocked after its loaded. Was the first gun I ever shot anything with. Used to go with my dad to check traps and if there was a skunk in one I got to shot it from the truck. We got alot of skunks and possums. Triggers are way different also. Win is very lite, dosnt have any creep. The flobert has a lot of take up before you feel anything but is a nice clean break.    |
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Post by greghopper on Aug 11, 2020 20:25:52 GMT -5
Never knew anyone that shot squirrels with 22 shorts... most I known of use 22 LRHP’s. Interesting!
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 11, 2020 20:31:34 GMT -5
Never knew anyone that shot squirrels with 22 shorts... most I known of use 22 LRHP’s. Interesting! They will take out a coon no problem. |
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Post by Russ Koon on Aug 11, 2020 23:08:31 GMT -5
61 years ago, when I used my first haying payday for a used single shot Stevens .22, the country store close to our little farm sold .22 shorts for 59 cents a box, and the long rifles were about thirty cents more. I bought a lot of shorts.
Eventually, after much practice, I found the LR to have better accuracy, and by that August when season came in I was shooting the lrhp's most of the time, but would sometimes get a box of short hollow points when they were cutting on hickory, because I had a few spots where I could just lay pretty much under a hickory and wait for one to turn crossways on a limb, and the distance was usually under 30 feet. The quieter shorts didn't spook the other squirrels as much, and had plenty of power and accuracy at that range. The good old days.
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Post by deadeer on Aug 12, 2020 0:56:28 GMT -5
CCI also has 22 quiets. I use them, but they are very low power, and 40gr solids. So that doesnt help anything as far as killing effectiveness. Head shots at about 10yds is all I feel comfortable with on skurrys now after a few bad experiences.
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Post by stevein on Aug 12, 2020 1:23:59 GMT -5
Bullseye maybe try some standard velocity shorts in that Flobert. Probably be closer to what it was made to shoot.
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 12, 2020 6:36:09 GMT -5
Bullseye maybe try some standard velocity shorts in that Flobert. Probably be closer to what it was made to shoot. Probably will try some different ones. Those were the first ones I grabbed out the ammo cabinet. I need to put a little color on the iron and then bench it to see where they group. This was a grab and go shoot so my iron sight shooting is really rusty. |
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Post by featherduster on Aug 12, 2020 7:00:29 GMT -5
61 years ago, when I used my first haying payday for a used single shot Stevens .22, the country store close to our little farm sold .22 shorts for 59 cents a box, and the long rifles were about thirty cents more. I bought a lot of shorts. Eventually, after much practice, I found the LR to have better accuracy, and by that August when season came in I was shooting the lrhp's most of the time, but would sometimes get a box of short hollow points when they were cutting on hickory, because I had a few spots where I could just lay pretty much under a hickory and wait for one to turn crossways on a limb, and the distance was usually under 30 feet. The quieter shorts didn't spook the other squirrels as much, and had plenty of power and accuracy at that range. The good old days. RUSS: How old are you?? really 61 years ago! |
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Post by HighCotton on Aug 12, 2020 7:29:05 GMT -5
Keep us posted on how it goes.
I love seeing the pics of those old school guns!
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Post by tenring on Aug 12, 2020 9:55:09 GMT -5
I've threatened to take my maternal grandfathers old Winnie M90 in .22 Short out for squirrels, but the glasses I get from the VA don't make some things quite possible. Rifle was made in 1936. Maybe this year with my last pair I have on hold due the almost shut down holding up the final exam after I had a cataract removed.
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 12, 2020 10:10:20 GMT -5
I've threatened to take my maternal grandfathers old Winnie M90 in .22 Short out for squirrels, but the glasses I get from the VA don't make some things quite possible. Rifle was made in 1936. Maybe this year with my last pair I have on hold due the almost shut down holding up the final exam after I had a cataract removed. Get it out! I got bifocals and I'm gonna give it go. |
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Post by Russ Koon on Aug 12, 2020 11:20:38 GMT -5
Featherduster, I'm 75. We moved to the farm when I was 14, just in time to get introduced to throwing bales of hay onto a slowly moving wagon at our new neighbor's place. A cousin my age had spoken about the job and had done a little of it the previous summer in his neighborhood, and there wasn't much else to do for spending money six miles from the nearest paved road, so I jumped on the opportunity. And of course a new transplant into the rural life at age 14 needs a rifle, so my first payday had a place to go very quickly.
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Post by HighCotton on Aug 12, 2020 11:39:39 GMT -5
I've threatened to take my maternal grandfathers old Winnie M90 in .22 Short out for squirrels, but the glasses I get from the VA don't make some things quite possible. Rifle was made in 1936. Maybe this year with my last pair I have on hold due the almost shut down holding up the final exam after I had a cataract removed. Get it out! I got bifocals and I'm gonna give it go. Man bullseye! Yer stirrin' up some good ole memories here! Ya got me pulling out my 1914 Marlin Model 29 pump and looking her over! It's been a few years since I sent any 22 shorts after the bushytails with this rifle. And I'm not too accurate with those iron sights. Advantage would go to the squirrels for sure! |
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 12, 2020 12:04:10 GMT -5
Get it out! I got bifocals and I'm gonna give it go. Man bullseye! Yer stirrin' up some good ole memories here! Ya got me pulling out my 1914 Marlin Model 29 pump and looking her over! It's been a few years since I sent any 22 shorts after the bushytails with this rifle. And I'm not too accurate with those iron sights. Advantage would go to the squirrels for sure! Just think of it as a handicap like in golf or bowling. 😉 |
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 12, 2020 17:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 12, 2020 17:54:16 GMT -5
Neither rifle liked the 60 grain stuff. You can see they were tumbling. The short range green wouldn't chamber in the flobert but was fantastic in the winchester. Just wish it wasn't so loud.   |
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Post by bullseye69 on Aug 12, 2020 18:01:08 GMT -5
So looks like theCCI LRG will be used in the Winchester and CCI quite will be used in the Flobert.
I may run the chamber reamer in the flobert so the CCI LRG will chamber in it.
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Post by moose1am on Aug 13, 2020 18:06:12 GMT -5
Never knew anyone that shot squirrels with 22 shorts... most I known of use 22 LRHP’s. Interesting! When I was a kid back in the 1960s we used 22 shorts. Then I discovered the Long Rifles. |
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Post by stevein on Aug 14, 2020 8:29:40 GMT -5
I used to shoot Win T22 in my Browning T-Bolt. When they became impossible I came accross some Winchester match that shot really good, shot it until I ran out.
THen I switched to Rem Sub-Sonic HP which shot really good.
The last is the Aquila subsonic solid. It is the best shoot round ever in my T-bolt. It does have a funky smell though.
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