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Post by greghopper on Jun 19, 2020 14:24:25 GMT -5
How about someone post a pick of the dang thing..... lol
Thanks....
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Post by boman on Jun 19, 2020 20:30:54 GMT -5
Jbird, looked at the pics and here's what I can tell you. The rifle was built second or third quarter 19th century. Most rifles built during this time period were "hardware store" guns meaning components were purchased from local "Sears and Roebuck". Trigger guard is blacksmith forged(not cast and hardware variety) and resembles those found on rifles by known makers from West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky/Tennessee. After that it resembles a typical rifle from Ohio, Ind, Ky, Illinois etc. al be it lacking a buttplate. Lock and triggers are typical "hardware store variety" most likely imported from England. It's not uncommon to find the locks roll engraved, which the tail of yours is, as well as the hardware store's name. I once owned a rifle with a lockplate identical to yours marked J. Griffith & Son, Cinncinnati, Ohio. The barrel is most probably of the similar origin, but could be of local manufacture. If I had the rifle in hand I could get a better idea. Typically locally made barrels show a slight "swamp" from draw filing but its usually very subtly on a rifle this late and hard to detect. Ramrod thimbles, nosecap and sideplate escutcheon were probably hand made by the riflesmith,blacksmith or whomever "stocked/assembled the rifle. Stock may be curly maple but I've seen several with faux tigerstripe, there again I could tell with rifle in hand. As far as value, I've seen rifles in much better condition, some shootable, sell for 250 to 600 dollars.
Steve
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Post by esshup on Jun 19, 2020 22:05:50 GMT -5
That link you posted the 2nd time worked for me. Can you do any other pictures like from the side like that? I'm not sure I follow what you mean. The second attempt was from my FB account....I think. You want pics of the side of the gun??? There isn't a marking on it...I have looked and looked. I can either send other pics in an e-mail or send you to another web-site/forum where I have them posted....not sure I want to put too much on FB. A site where I have them posted is called "Deerhunterforum.com" they have a guns/reloading tab, and about the fifth thread down (posted by J-bird) is where I have several pics posted already. Thanks that's good enough. If a guy that I sent the picture to had questions about what it looked like from the side. Just like looking at the muzzle of a shotgun, you can't tell what brand it is, but looking at a side view you get a better idea.
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Post by esshup on Jun 19, 2020 22:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by stevein on Jun 20, 2020 14:20:39 GMT -5
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Post by jbird on Jun 22, 2020 9:46:31 GMT -5
Sorry about the frustration over the pictures. So to add to some of the history....this gun was made by my grandfathers, grandfather. So some of the estimates of when it was made I agree with...I am thinking pre 1900, somewhere 1875 to 1900 time frame. It also sounds like that the description of how it was made is accurate as well....that the metal parts are mostly store bought and the stock was made by hand to fit the makers taste. It was confirmed that the gun was "MADE" but in the context as described. I am pretty certain it comes from the ohio river valley area here in IN/OH/KY. Thanks to all of you that chimed in and took some interest. I wish it was in better shape, but function came first and not how pretty it would be in 100 years....this has been an interesting learning experience for me both about older firearms (as I had never seen a seven sided bore before) as well as digging into some family history as well.... My Grandfather was one of the biggest outdoors mentors I had. He meant/means a lot to me and hopefully someday I will have the chance to pass that along.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jun 23, 2020 9:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by oldhoyt on Jun 23, 2020 11:53:39 GMT -5
Take a closer look. Octagon barrel, yes. Bore looks 7-sided.
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Post by greghopper on Jun 23, 2020 14:57:11 GMT -5
Take a closer look. Octagon barrel, yes. Bore looks 7-sided. ..... I cout seven also
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