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Post by Ahawkeye on May 14, 2020 0:48:00 GMT -5
So it doesn't matter if I put a rifle scope on a slug gun? I always thought the shot gun scopes were "more durable or rugged" due to recoil. I could be way off on that though. I realize rifle scopes are probably more pricey and intended for long range capability but I mainly hunt in the woods and am at close range by comparison I like to hunt till last legal light so light gathering is a plus for sure. No, the "shotgun scopes" were just a little cheaper, more simple scope designed for shorter range shooting. They are no more stout than a good high powered rifle scope. Stick with leupold and everything is lifetime warranty anyway, if you were to ever have a problem. I hunt IL every year which is still a shotgun only state, so I maintain a good slug gun, with good optics. With the right setup and ammo, a good slug gun is a 200 yard weapon. I also agree with this statement, with the new ammo available and a good rifled barrel you can easily make a 200 yd gun out of a slug gun, another step would be pinning the barrel but I still use this gun for duck season as well so I'm not there yet.
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Post by jjas on May 14, 2020 6:51:44 GMT -5
hunter xmax
Before I would spend any money trying to turn a standard shotgun into a 200 yard slug gun, I would do one of two things...
Either look into a straight wall cartridge that is legal in Indiana on both public and private ground, (like the .450 bushmaster or .350 legend) and buy a bolt action rifle or AR chambered in that cartridge. Rounds will be around a $1.00-$1.50 per for these two cartridges.
If you want to stick with a slug gun, I would purchase a Savage 220 bolt action slug gun. Ammo will run you close to $3.00 per round. The other issue with slug guns are that that they are a dying line of hunting guns as most states are allowing rifles now. Truth be told, I don't see any of the large gun or ammo manufacturers putting a lot of research and development in new slug guns and slugs, and the old line of guns and ammo will likely be pared down as demand continues to drop over the next few years.
You could always keep your existing slug gun for areas you feel the need to use it and have a new rifle to use everywhere else.
Just my opinion, FWIW...
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Post by Ahawkeye on May 14, 2020 8:35:49 GMT -5
hunter xmax Before I would spend any money trying to turn a standard shotgun into a 200 yard slug gun, I would do one of two things... Either look into a straight wall cartridge that is legal in Indiana on both public and private ground, (like the .450 bushmaster or .350 legend) and buy a bolt action rifle or AR chambered in that cartridge. Rounds will be around a $1.00-$1.50 per for these two cartridges. If you want to stick with a slug gun, I would purchase a Savage 220 bolt action slug gun. Ammo will run you close to $3.00 per round. The other issue with slug guns are that that they are a dying line of hunting guns as most states are allowing rifles now. Truth be told, I don't see any of the large gun or ammo manufacturers putting a lot of research and development in new slug guns and slugs, and the old line of guns and ammo will likely be pared down as demand continues to drop over the next few years. You could always keep your existing slug gun for areas you feel the need to use it and have a new rifle to use everywhere else. Just my opinion, FWIW... I’m probably going down with the ship as far as the 870 goes, as long as Hornady keeps making the SST sabot I’ll be shooting that. I can see where you’re coming from though. I’m kind of old school like that though. My main drive right now is low light performance from the gun I have not long rage capability although it wouldn’t take much effort to get to 200 yards if I wanted to.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 14, 2020 9:18:16 GMT -5
Im pretty sure most of my scopes are Nikons. The slug gun has a 2 - 7 Nikon ProStaff on it. I usually just keep it on 4X.
The turkey barrel has a Simmons 2X ProDiamond on it. My right eye has some macular degeneration in it and real fine crosshairs really get lost to me. The ProDiamond surrounds the neck/head of the Gobbler and he is mine,
Knock on wood - I have never missed or just wounded a Gobbler with my turkey gun. It’s bang and flop.
The only turkey I’ve ever missed was with a crossbow and that was while I was deer hunting in the fall. I Shot him for a short 30 and he was a long 30. I sure made him hop though!
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Post by nfalls116 on May 14, 2020 20:14:25 GMT -5
It’s really a terrific sight works in lots of light conditions any weather no fog up or wet lenses no difference if cold or warm no dead batteries and top it off it is deer, squirrel, bird death accurate.
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2020 1:11:12 GMT -5
The whole "larger tube and Objective size" is all fine and good, but putting the hubble telescope on top of a slug gun that is essentially a 100 yard firearm makes little sense to me. Back in the day, I mounted a cheap Simmons pro diamond scope on a browning bps 12 gauge (that I was shooting Winchester partition gold slugs through) and it survived for a few seasons (even though low light performance wasn't "top notch"). I've run slug guns with Nikon prostaff 3-9x40 scopes and they held up well and never gave me problems. Whether it's Leupold, Nikon, Vortex, or whatever you want, I've found that a reasonably priced 3-9x40 scope (around $150) with good eye relief will survive atop a slug gun or muzzleloader and give you good low light performance. It doesn't have to be a special "shotgun" scope to do so. The last point I would make is don't skimp on the rings for a slug gun. I've used both Leupold and Warne steel rings and never had any issues. Scope rings take a lot of stress on a slug gun, and mounting a nice scope with $15 rings makes zero sense to me. I agree, BUT if the OP is looking for a scope that works in low light (last 5 min of shooting light) the bigger the objective and the bigger the tube (well, the coatings on the scope lens have a lot to do with it too) will let more light through the scope to his eye than a smaller objective and smaller tube. I'm not suggesting to put a high power scope on it, heck, for 100 yds, 2x would be plenty. I swapped a bunch of scopes around looking for more light transmission and found that 2 scopes, same price range same objective size, same tube size and same power but made 10 years apart had different light transmitting qualities. The newer scope was better in the last 5 min of the day than the older scope. These were scopes that retail for over $1K, and the cheaper of the 2 scopes (the newer one) was better than the older one. Looking through the scopes in the store or in daylight doesn't tell you squat about how well they will work in low light conditions. 200^ in agreement for the rings. I went strictly with dual dovetail rings for heavy kicking guns, or ones with a cross bolt attachment system for a Picatinny rail system. I've had a scope slide in a dual dovetail front windage adjustable rear Leupold mount. Yes, they are a PITA to install and get lined up, but they are pretty bulletproof.
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2020 1:14:29 GMT -5
Im pretty sure most of my scopes are Nikons. The slug gun has a 2 - 7 Nikon ProStaff on it. I usually just keep it on 4X. The turkey barrel has a Simmons 2X ProDiamond on it. My right eye has some macular degeneration in it and real fine crosshairs really get lost to me. The ProDiamond surrounds the neck/head of the Gobbler and he is mine, Knock on wood - I have never missed or just wounded a Gobbler with my turkey gun. It’s bang and flop. The only turkey I’ve ever missed was with a crossbow and that was while I was deer hunting in the fall. I Shot him for a short 30 and he was a long 30. I sure made him hop though! Just remember, Nikon is no longer in the scope business. Sales are limited to existing inventory. They are supposed to be still servicing and honoring the warranties though.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 15, 2020 6:48:08 GMT -5
Im pretty sure most of my scopes are Nikons. The slug gun has a 2 - 7 Nikon ProStaff on it. I usually just keep it on 4X. The turkey barrel has a Simmons 2X ProDiamond on it. My right eye has some macular degeneration in it and real fine crosshairs really get lost to me. The ProDiamond surrounds the neck/head of the Gobbler and he is mine, Knock on wood - I have never missed or just wounded a Gobbler with my turkey gun. It’s bang and flop. The only turkey I’ve ever missed was with a crossbow and that was while I was deer hunting in the fall. I Shot him for a short 30 and he was a long 30. I sure made him hop though! Just remember, Nikon is no longer in the scope business. Sales are limited to existing inventory. They are supposed to be still servicing and honoring the warranties though. Yep.. if one can find them they still good scopes. The Simmons 2X ProDiamond isn’t made any more either.
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Post by jjas on May 15, 2020 11:05:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 18:18:43 GMT -5
Every scope I own is a Luepold. That will soon change when I put a red dot on my turkey gun, but I love the Luepold scopes and their lifetime warranty. Have them on my Ruger .30-06, Knight Disc Extreme, and .22.
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Post by jbird on May 20, 2020 10:08:24 GMT -5
What's on top of my slug gun? DUST! I haven't shot mine since HPR was legal on private ground. I went 30-30 lever gun for a few years and then 308 bolt gun.
Now to the real answer....I have a Bushnell 3-9x40 mounted to my rifled 12 gauge barrel of my mossy 500 pump gun.
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