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Post by HillBillyJeff on Apr 23, 2020 16:15:56 GMT -5
Tennessee you're allowed 4 toms in the spring season that starts in March and runs into May. So I started checking into it and it seems the eastern turkey population is on the downward trend. From what they are saying most turkey poults die in the eggs from nest predators such as opossums, raccoons, and skunks actually do the most damage. Raccoons account for 50 percent or more of turkey-egg destruction.
Time to break out the trapping gear.
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Post by parkerbow on Apr 24, 2020 7:55:15 GMT -5
Yep, Turkeys have it rough for sure. They are so vulnerable to predators while they are in the egg form. Then when they are poults the hawks and owls take there toll. Then I am sure the bobcats get their share. I bet only a few percent actually make it. Fur prices are low too so not many people trapping anymore.
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Post by medic22 on Apr 24, 2020 8:21:26 GMT -5
Weve been making it a point to shoot raccoons on slow coyote days.
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Post by HillBillyJeff on May 11, 2020 17:08:38 GMT -5
Weve been making it a point to shoot raccoons on slow coyote days. Careful doing that out of season |
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Post by esshup on May 11, 2020 17:38:49 GMT -5
Weve been making it a point to shoot raccoons on slow coyote days. Careful doing that out of season Last year the neighbor said he got 19 coons that were walking around his chicken coop. DP traps. he had coons and possums getting into the coop so I gave him some traps to set outside of the coop to stop them before they got in. That had to help the turkey population too. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 10:01:41 GMT -5
My area is down to 5 hens, 5 Tom's and 4 Jakes. So far 4 hens are still on nest and only 1 now off her nest. Last year was 1 out of 7 was successful..
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Post by jjas on May 19, 2020 10:19:06 GMT -5
Weve been making it a point to shoot raccoons on slow coyote days. Careful doing that out of season Here's a bit from the DNR concerning raccoons www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/3364.htm |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 12:58:53 GMT -5
Every raccoon on my place is a nuisance. They can be an issue for beekeepers. |
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Post by greghopper on May 19, 2020 14:45:21 GMT -5
Every raccoon on my place is a nuisance. They can be an issue for beekeepers. That’s exactly what some farmers say and believe about deer... only good deer is a dead deer! |
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Post by jjas on May 19, 2020 15:12:40 GMT -5
Every raccoon on my place is a nuisance. They can be an issue for beekeepers. That’s exactly what some farmers say and believe about deer... only good deer is a dead deer! While farmers may not like the deer on their property, deer hunters are willing to pay ridiculous amounts to lease those farms and will thin the herd per the farmer's instructions. I've never heard of any Coon hunters willing to pay deer lease prices to hunt raccoons... |
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Post by Woody Williams on May 19, 2020 16:10:10 GMT -5
That’s exactly what some farmers say and believe about deer... only good deer is a dead deer! I may be wrong about this, but while farmers may not like the deer on their property, deer hunters are willing to pay ridiculous amounts to lease those farms and will thin the herd per the farmer's instructions. I've never heard of any Coon hunters willing to pay deer lease prices to hunt raccoons... Truth..another “cash crop” for them. Coon will do more damage to standing corn than deer |
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Post by greghopper on May 19, 2020 17:21:42 GMT -5
That’s exactly what some farmers say and believe about deer... only good deer is a dead deer! While farmers may not like the deer on their property, deer hunters are willing to pay ridiculous amounts to lease those farms and will thin the herd per the farmer's instructions. I've never heard of any Coon hunters willing to pay deer lease prices to hunt raccoons... Most Deer Hunter that are paying “ridiculous amounts” (your words)to lease are not doing that to control a population. Most are going to save more deer then kill them.... but yes if your lease Directs you on what and how many deer to kill that’s another story! |
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Post by gumbootbill on May 19, 2020 18:02:49 GMT -5
I may be wrong about this, but while farmers may not like the deer on their property, deer hunters are willing to pay ridiculous amounts to lease those farms and will thin the herd per the farmer's instructions. I've never heard of any Coon hunters willing to pay deer lease prices to hunt raccoons... Truth..another “cash crop” for them. Coon will do more damage to standing corn than deer Woody the picture you posted for me with the S10 full of coons the farmer told me to kill all the deer on his place big ones little ones and their babies. He could see the deer tracks in his field but couldn't see the coon tracks so it had to be the deer. I set 4 dozen 220's and 2 dozen 1 1/2 foot traps and caught 74 coons in 5 days. You know the old saying leave some for seed. "NO" when it comes to coons I try to take them all big ones little ones and their babies. |
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Post by firstwd on May 20, 2020 15:42:27 GMT -5
That’s exactly what some farmers say and believe about deer... only good deer is a dead deer! While farmers may not like the deer on their property, deer hunters are willing to pay ridiculous amounts to lease those farms and will thin the herd per the farmer's instructions. I've never heard of any Coon hunters willing to pay deer lease prices to hunt raccoons... While this is an absolutely true statement, the reasoning is flawed. Deer are a nuisance at a time that hunting isn't allowed. A farmer can allow the entire county on his place to hunt, but when deer are eating the beans as soon as they sprout fall hunting doesn't help. Then again, the turkey and geese eating the seed as soon as it gets planted doesn't help. Then of course there is all the standing corn damage done by raccoons and squirrels. Wow, I started going to public information/feedback meetings about deer crip damage 25 years ago and the I'm still saying the same things. |
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Post by jjas on May 20, 2020 22:12:50 GMT -5
While farmers may not like the deer on their property, deer hunters are willing to pay ridiculous amounts to lease those farms and will thin the herd per the farmer's instructions. I've never heard of any Coon hunters willing to pay deer lease prices to hunt raccoons... While this is an absolutely true statement, the reasoning is flawed. Deer are a nuisance at a time that hunting isn't allowed. A farmer can allow the entire county on his place to hunt, but when deer are eating the beans as soon as they sprout fall hunting doesn't help. Then again, the turkey and geese eating the seed as soon as it gets planted doesn't help. Then of course there is all the standing corn damage done by raccoons and squirrels. Wow, I started going to public information/feedback meetings about deer crip damage 25 years ago and the I'm still saying the same things. The owners can likely get depredation permits to control the deer during the growing season and STILL find hunters willing to pay to hunt in the fall. As far as raccoons go, it appears to me that landowners can trap/kill as many as they want to, whenever they want to, if the raccoons are causing damage. |
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Post by firstwd on May 21, 2020 5:03:29 GMT -5
While this is an absolutely true statement, the reasoning is flawed. Deer are a nuisance at a time that hunting isn't allowed. A farmer can allow the entire county on his place to hunt, but when deer are eating the beans as soon as they sprout fall hunting doesn't help. Then again, the turkey and geese eating the seed as soon as it gets planted doesn't help. Then of course there is all the standing corn damage done by raccoons and squirrels. Wow, I started going to public information/feedback meetings about deer crip damage 25 years ago and the I'm still saying the same things. The owners can likely get depredation permits to control the deer during the growing season and STILL find hunters willing to pay to hunt in the fall. As far as raccoons go, it appears to me that landowners can trap/kill as many as they want to, whenever they want to, if the raccoons are causing damage. Legally, yes, but I don't know of too many farmers that have the time to be running coon traps on top of keeping up with farming. |
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Post by greghopper on May 21, 2020 6:25:08 GMT -5
While this is an absolutely true statement, the reasoning is flawed. Deer are a nuisance at a time that hunting isn't allowed. A farmer can allow the entire county on his place to hunt, but when deer are eating the beans as soon as they sprout fall hunting doesn't help. Then again, the turkey and geese eating the seed as soon as it gets planted doesn't help. Then of course there is all the standing corn damage done by raccoons and squirrels. Wow, I started going to public information/feedback meetings about deer crip damage 25 years ago and the I'm still saying the same things. The owners can likely get depredation permits to control the deer during the growing season and STILL find hunters willing to pay to hunt in the fall. As far as raccoons go, it appears to me that landowners can trap/kill as many as they want to, whenever they want to, if the raccoons are causing damage. Find someone to hunt yes..... finding someone to PAY maybe! |
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Post by scrub-buster on May 21, 2020 8:28:54 GMT -5
I've been trapping nuisance raccoons and coyotes this spring. I'm doing my part to help the fawn and turkey population.
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Post by jjas on May 21, 2020 10:58:12 GMT -5
The owners can likely get depredation permits to control the deer during the growing season and STILL find hunters willing to pay to hunt in the fall. As far as raccoons go, it appears to me that landowners can trap/kill as many as they want to, whenever they want to, if the raccoons are causing damage. Legally, yes, but I don't know of too many farmers that have the time to be running coon traps on top of keeping up with farming. That's obviously up to the farmers. If they want them gone, it's going to take time/effort to get rid of them. Now whether that effort is the farmers themselves, a trapper, or a hunter is up to the farmer... |
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Post by jjas on May 21, 2020 10:59:47 GMT -5
The owners can likely get depredation permits to control the deer during the growing season and STILL find hunters willing to pay to hunt in the fall. As far as raccoons go, it appears to me that landowners can trap/kill as many as they want to, whenever they want to, if the raccoons are causing damage. Find someone to hunt yes..... finding someone to PAY maybe! Maybe, maybe not... You might be surprised what people are willing to pay to hunt even average ground. |
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