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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 17:58:39 GMT -5
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Post by moose1am on Mar 10, 2020 18:04:18 GMT -5
We know that Beto came right out and said it. He wanted to take or AR15 and AK47 away from us. He said, "Dam Right I want to take them away". Then Biden said he was going to put Beto in charge of Gun control if he wins. That's not good.
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Post by jjas on Mar 10, 2020 18:06:46 GMT -5
You can refer to elected officials as "employees", but in all reality, they don't give a crap what we think, (except maybe in an election year). Other than that, they do what they want. If citizens want something different from their elected officials, perhaps we shouldn't re-elect the same people over and over and over again.
As far as Biden going off on that guy today...Trump says what he wants, perhaps Biden figures it should work for him, too? Will it? Time will tell...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 18:19:12 GMT -5
You can refer to elected officials as "employees", but in all reality, they don't give a crap what we think, (except maybe in an election year). Other than that, they do what they want. If citizens want something different from their elected officials, perhaps we shouldn't re-elect the same people over and over and over again. As far as Biden going off on that guy today...Trump says what he wants, perhaps Biden figures it should work for him, too? Will it? Time will tell... The President says what he wants, yes. I`ve not seen or heard of him being so rude and belligerent with a citizen. And whether they acknowledge it or not, they DO work for US.
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Post by jjas on Mar 10, 2020 18:25:06 GMT -5
You can refer to elected officials as "employees", but in all reality, they don't give a crap what we think, (except maybe in an election year). Other than that, they do what they want. If citizens want something different from their elected officials, perhaps we shouldn't re-elect the same people over and over and over again. As far as Biden going off on that guy today...Trump says what he wants, perhaps Biden figures it should work for him, too? Will it? Time will tell... The President says what he wants, yes. I`ve not seen or heard of him being so rude and belligerent with a citizen. And whether they acknowledge it or not, they DO work for US. If it makes you feel better about being ignored, they say what you will about them working for us. They are SUPPOSED to work for us, but in reality, they don't and yet we continue to allow them to do that because we are a lazy electorate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 18:30:25 GMT -5
The President says what he wants, yes. I`ve not seen or heard of him being so rude and belligerent with a citizen. And whether they acknowledge it or not, they DO work for US. If it makes you feel better about being ignored, they say what you will about them working for us. They are SUPPOSED to work for us, but in reality, they don't and yet we continue to allow them to do that because we are a lazy electorate. I couldn`t agree more about the laziness. As long as people can watch the kardashians, or shoot hoop, or whatever ever else they fill up their time with, they`re more than happy to ignore what this government is doing to the Constitution, and therefore, to this Republic. Something has to give soon.
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Post by jtv on Mar 10, 2020 18:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Mar 10, 2020 19:18:48 GMT -5
Elected officials stopped working for the people as soon as they started taking a salary that they alone had the power to increase.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 10, 2020 19:33:57 GMT -5
Right now Biden doesn’t “work for us”. He is applying for the job right now.
He was getting paid by the government for quite some time. Even then he did not “work for us” but sure made a lot of money for himself and his family.
Not sure if it is mental capacity that is readily apparent to be slipping causing him to go off on people who challenge him on policies or not. I can think of 4 such instances during this campaign and its still early on. I got a feelimg that he will really lose it and it will get physical.
In this case in Michigan he invited to guy to go outside. Bluff? Maybe, but it would have been real interesting if the guy said,” Let’s go.., let’s do it!”
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Post by jjas on Mar 10, 2020 20:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by jtv on Mar 10, 2020 21:52:02 GMT -5
dont think any of that is similar to the idiocy of Biden ... Plus, Trump has since wised up, yea, there are times I wish he'd stay silent and let the dems do their circular firing squad shtick, and I wish Melania would hide his darn phone on him on occasion... Biden and his lousy dems/socialists/liberals(all one in the same) are a threat to this country, economically, militarily, socially and spiritually ... after tonight, it looks like Bernie is done, so the senile, dementia ridden Biden looks to be the one going forward ... but, Bernie may not give up so easy either ... we will see ..
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Post by jjas on Mar 10, 2020 22:09:07 GMT -5
dont think any of that is similar to the idiocy of Biden ... Plus, Trump has since wised up, yea, there are times I wish he'd stay silent and let the dems do their circular firing squad shtick, and I wish Melania would hide his darn phone on him on occasion... Biden and his lousy dems/socialists/liberals(all one in the same) are a threat to this country, economically, militarily, socially and spiritually ... after tonight, it looks like Bernie is done, so the senile, dementia ridden Biden looks to be the one going forward ... but, Bernie may not give up so easy either ... we will see .. I personally have voted Republican for every presidential candidate since 1980. Trump was an easy choice over Clinton and will be over Bernie or Biden. But make no mistake, Trump is a crass, thuggish, childish, buffoon when it comes to his personal life and his constant need to get the last word in. He's cheated on his wives, he's paid off women he's had affairs with, and he won't release his tax returns after saying he would. (Gee, I wonder if that audit is still going on?) He's a horse's ass, pure and simple. But even with all of the above, IMO he's a better choice than Bernie or Biden, and the saddest part of all of this is that these three people are what we have to choose from.
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Post by jtv on Mar 10, 2020 22:46:24 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Mar 10, 2020 23:02:25 GMT -5
I knew Trump was teflon coated when he said what he did about grabbing women by their genitals and he still won the presidency. I remember when Gary Hart got pushed out of the presidential race for having a picture taken of himself with Donna Rice sitting on his lap aboard a boat called the Monkey Business. The times have definitely changed. Trump will likely win again, but I don't like him. I personally think he's a creep. But as I said before...the saddest part of all is that even with all of the above, I think he's a better choice than Bernie or Biden and will vote for him again.
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Post by freedomhunter on Mar 11, 2020 8:14:34 GMT -5
Poor guy that Biden cussed out is a union advocate that wants to protect his gun rights. Probably won't even vote.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 11, 2020 8:19:37 GMT -5
Ive always vote Republican but several times I had to hold my nose to do it.
Voting for Trump was actually a vote against Hillary. There was absolutely no way I wanted to see another Clinton in the Whitehouse.
Trump has crossed the line numerous times, but prefer that to one who just lets the Dems walk all over him. Maybe we needed an “in your face” President?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 9:12:04 GMT -5
I'm almost the same as Woody, but on occasions voted for an independent because 1st two selections where both a bad choice. I sure wish it was more like the old days where they had more viable parties and each party put multiple people to choice from. Not one party one person.
I wish we could vote for the pre-elections to elect the person for each location. You almost have to become one of them and get into politics to change that one at the top. I've been asked to represent on my little area of about 35 homes. It's amazing though that I've been at my home for 28 years and not one time has someone contacted me from my little district area. I've looked that person up, but never contacted him.
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Post by jtv on Mar 11, 2020 9:48:46 GMT -5
Ive never missed a Presidential election, from when I hit 18 to now('76-'20), even when I was in the USMC, I voted. Ive always voted Repub., because there isnt a 'Conservative party', yes, there is a difference between Repub's and Conservatives, with similarities. Just like there are some crossover from Libertairian to Conservative/Repub. ...I will never vote for a Dem. ..Little dems vote for big Dems who then seem to destroy this country... When I watch Pelosi/Schumer/Mad Maxine/Schiff/Nadler et al. I want to puke, to say I despise them is being PC .... and that isnt to say all Repub's are good for the country either (Rino's)... there will never be the 'perfect' POTUS, as there will never be the perfect human .. everyone has their 'glitches' as there are some Repub's I cant stand either, most are Rino's, such as Romney is and McCain was ...
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Post by jtv on Mar 11, 2020 11:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by moose1am on Mar 12, 2020 10:34:52 GMT -5
The poor guy that Biden cussed out is a union advocate that wants to protect his gun rights. Probably won't even vote. That's like me. There are many things about all the people still running for President that I don't like. I guess we just have to look at all things and choose the lesser of the evils. That is if I make it to Nov. This world is getting worse all the time IMHO. Virus, Fights over the South China Sea with China, War in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. Terrorism. Stock Markets Crashing. Voter Suppression. Russian and Chinese hackers stealing intellectual properties. I like Bidens setting the record straight with that factory guy. The problem with American really started with two things. Getting rid of the fairness doctrine for media and the citizen's united case which allowed corporations to try and buy elections. The world was better when all we had on TV was NBC, CBS, ABC, and PBS. Cable news has too much time to fill and so we get talking heads giving us opinions of their owners and not just the news of the day. It used to be the TV news came on at 5 or 6 pm and we got maybe an hour of the news that happened that day. It was pure news which back then I didn't really listen to. I was young and out and about and only came home to eat and sleep. I watched the news only because my father watched the news faithfully. He was a teacher and taught psychology and sociology and used the news of the day in his classes. So he watched McNeil Lehr every night at 5 or 6 pm. If I was home I was forced to watch the news or else nothing. Back in those days, there was no Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, CNN or MSNBC cable news. There was no talk radio like we have today. We have republicans and democrats but we talked about issues and didn't seem so divided as we are these days. We have two different media worlds in the USA these days and one party does not even know what the other party is doing or talking about. It's like there is a big wall between us and both sides are clueless as to what the other side did. Last night I watched Laura Ingram for about 20 minutes and was shocked at what she was saying. She spent more time bashing the Democrats than giving me the news. And it the same with MSNBC. They spend more time bashing Trump and the GOP than giving me the real news. This is why we are so divided. So what are the real issues? Taxes and money are number one with many people. Social Security and Medicare or Health care are number one with most older people. Guns are important to many people. Protecting the US Constitution. That is important to me. We must look at all the different issues and then choose the person that best represents our wants and wishes.
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