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Post by firstwd on Jan 19, 2020 19:26:07 GMT -5
How deep can natural seeds be found and how resilient are they?
Took a second drive around the farm tonight and WOW. I have no clue who these loggers are and the "better man" side of me feels it's best the dark and angry side of me doesn't know.
Anyway, I did find a couple of useful trails.
They took equipment into, through, and stuck in places that shouldn't have been gone through while wet, and some for no reasonable explanation at all. With that, there is a whole bunch of bare ground I'm hoping doesn't end up down the creek.
Am I good to let nature take its course and fill in the gaps, or should I be grabbing some type of seed to get down once the hacks are gone?
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Post by esshup on Jan 19, 2020 20:31:49 GMT -5
How deep can natural seeds be found and how resilient are they? Took a second drive around the farm tonight and WOW. I have no clue who these loggers are and the "better man" side of me feels it's best the dark and angry side of me doesn't know. Anyway, I did find a couple of useful trails. They took equipment into, through, and stuck in places that shouldn't have been gone through while wet, and some for no reasonable explanation at all. With that, there is a whole bunch of bare ground I'm hoping doesn't end up down the creek. Am I good to let nature take its course and fill in the gaps, or should I be grabbing some type of seed to get down once the hacks are gone? I'd keep an eye open for any "throw n grow" type food plot seeds, especially any that will do OK with some shade. They are annuals, so any perennial natural seeds will still come up and be doing well after these die back. Frost seed in a month, or now if they are done. |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 19, 2020 22:00:37 GMT -5
They aren't done. Unless they get tossed when the forester gets there this week about the extra trees they cut down. I'm hoping he's quick and gets there tomorrow. Theys have logs stacked to load trucks.
I thought about grabbing some wheat or barley just to try to stop the erosion, but I think it's too late for that.
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Post by esshup on Jan 19, 2020 23:05:09 GMT -5
They aren't done. Unless they get tossed when the forester gets there this week about the extra trees they cut down. I'm hoping he's quick and gets there tomorrow. Theys have logs stacked to load trucks. I thought about grabbing some wheat or barley just to try to stop the erosion, but I think it's too late for that. With tomorrow being a holiday, I'd call the forester and leave a voice mail message if you haven't done so already in regards to the extra trees. That's BS and you need to get paid for them too. Until they are done driving back and forth over the dirt, I believe throwing the seeds down now will be a waste of $$. |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 19, 2020 23:15:57 GMT -5
They aren't done. Unless they get tossed when the forester gets there this week about the extra trees they cut down. I'm hoping he's quick and gets there tomorrow. Theys have logs stacked to load trucks. I thought about grabbing some wheat or barley just to try to stop the erosion, but I think it's too late for that. With tomorrow being a holiday, I'd call the forester and leave a voice mail message if you haven't done so already in regards to the extra trees. That's BS and you need to get paid for them too. Until they are done driving back and forth over the dirt, I believe throwing the seeds down now will be a waste of $$. Not my woods, just one property I take care of for friends. They were contacted and they called the forester this morning. I'll check around for some clearance seed to have handy when they leave. Oh, they dropped a tree on and drug it across one of the gold camp shelters destroying it and everything inside. As soon as my brother showed up this afternoon they loaded up and bailed without a word. |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 20, 2020 16:19:28 GMT -5
These guys just keep getting better.
This morning they took the dozer and pushed the line of cedars next to the drive down the hill. While it now looks like the driveway is twice as wide, the giant I-beam the cable gate hooks to is still in the ground. No gain in space, no gain in visibility, no plausible reason I can find.
Oh, the landowners apparently are more mad than me. They told the forester to get them off the property.
And I still don't know who they are. Their name isn't on any equipment.
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Post by esshup on Jan 20, 2020 19:19:42 GMT -5
For the damage they caused I hope the logs are still there.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 21, 2020 5:49:27 GMT -5
For the damage they caused I hope the logs are still there. They rolled several truck loads out Sunday and Monday. Maybe 1/3 are gone. |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 26, 2020 21:36:58 GMT -5
Saw my Quail forever budy yesterday. He's working on getting me 200 pounds of seed.
The plan is to frost seed the hilltops and sides. Gonna leave the wet, flood prone, bottom alone and see what the spring rains create.
The loggers filled in a 4 foot deep drain to access the back hill. They dug out about a foot before they left. We are considering putting a drain pipe in, back filling what was dug out, and keeping the 5 foot wide 30 to 40 foot long water hole that was created.
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Post by scrub-buster on Jan 27, 2020 7:18:05 GMT -5
Stories like this is why we did not have our property logged before the ash borers killed everything. I know how destructive loggers can be. We got a value estimate and decided it wasn't worth the headache and damage that it could cause.
I hope they get the damage resolved before they get off the property. Good luck
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Post by firstwd on Jan 27, 2020 12:16:04 GMT -5
Stories like this is why we did not have our property logged before the ash borers killed everything. I know how destructive loggers can be. We got a value estimate and decided it wasn't worth the headache and damage that it could cause. I hope they get the damage resolved before they get off the property. Good luck They're gone. Total of 6 days I think. I got to talk to the forester last week and he didn't seem to think any damage was excessive. He hadn't been back to the woods at that point but he did say they have the right to cut down whatever they need to to be able to protect and retrieve the trees they paid for. Like I've said before, I don't own the place, so I will just deal with what is there the best I can. |
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Post by firstwd on May 10, 2020 21:17:53 GMT -5
Went back and checked the drain pipe I put in a few weeks ago. Even with all the rain and it only being a 4" pipe, it is working and holding well and the deer have already shifted the trail to go over the pipe instead of jumping the ditch. Just need a few younger, more energetic guys to help shovel the rest of the dirt on it.
I was a bit surprised to find loads of the clover I spread has sprouted and didn't seem to show any damage from the 28 degree weather Saturday. Several of the smaller trees that got run over have leafed out. I basically ended up with an accidental henge cut woods. Archery season will be interesting.
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