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Post by moose1am on Jan 17, 2020 10:59:58 GMT -5
If you truly believe there isn’t a War Room that advises the president you are completely wrong and there no use in having a factual discussion. And there were no US casualties at bombed bases ... that’s fake news. Concussions yes! And yes I am starting to see a pattern with your information and second guessing!... SMH Ask General Mathis if Trump listened to his advisors? I bet he will give you an earful. Trump said he knows more than all the Generals combined. Remember when he said that? I do. Trump fails to listen to his advisors and won't read the briefs that they give him. He is too busy on twitter all night long.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 17, 2020 11:23:19 GMT -5
There were no deaths in the bombing of of bases.... injured yes with concussions from sound blast is my understanding.
My bad for assuming “casualties” as being only death... as in "fatalities",
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Post by moose1am on Jan 17, 2020 12:43:44 GMT -5
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Post by moose1am on Jan 17, 2020 12:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by moose1am on Jan 17, 2020 13:01:31 GMT -5
If you truly believe there isn’t a War Room that advises the president you are completely wrong and there no use in having a factual discussion. And there were no US casualties at bombed bases ... that’s fake news. Concussions yes! And yes I am starting to see a pattern with your information and second guessing!... SMH Trump does not listen to his Generals. He thinks they are incompetent and crybabies. Trump once said that he was smarter than all the generals put together. I was aghast when I heard Trump say that. This is why Rex Tillerson Called Trump a F***** Moron before he was fired. I hope that Trump gets it together and puts Iran in their place. www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/trump-military-afghanistan-2017-pentagon-meeting-tillerson/index.html
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Post by greghopper on Jan 17, 2020 14:39:02 GMT -5
MEH..... believe what you want believe!
He’s obviously not making war decisions on his own!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 17:35:03 GMT -5
The problem with your answer is that the people in the war room don't get to decide what to do. General Kelly and General Mathis are no longer there advising Trump. He fired them both. I feel sorry for General Milley. If it were up to the Generals we would wipe Iran off the face of the earth. It's Trump that stopped them. So you are saying you are ok with Trump not protecting our troops in Iraq from Iranian Ballistic Missile attacks? You are saying that you are OK with Iran shooting Ballistic Missiles at our troops and giving them no means to avoid those Ballistic Missile Attacks. What would you say if Iran fired longer-range Ballistic Missiles and one landed on your house? Would you still be ok with that? I for one would not. Today the media is reporting that there were US causalities' from the Iranian Ballistic Missile Attacks. Those bunkers there our troops cowered were not built to withstand a direct hit by a 2000 lb. explosive warhead on a ballistic missile. Saddam built those concrete bunkers 20 years ago. And some of our troops sustained traumatic brain injuries from the concussive sound of the 2000 lb bomb exploding so close to their bunkers. Trump drew a line in the sand and Iran crossed it. Trump said that if any US troops were wounded or killed he would respond with excessive force. Then he did nothing. Now Iran knows that it can attack US Troops in Iraq and the USA will just stand down and not respond. Are you really OK with that? You don't put our men and women in harms way and not try to protect them to the best of your ability. Trump failed these people. You are right about one thing. Damned if you do... Damned if you don't. But we all know now that Trump talks a big talk, but when it comes down to action he is all bluff. At least it seems that way. Like I said, If I were in charge I would have let Iran know what happens when they attack our guy. They would regret the day they did that if I were in charge. We have the means to destroy Iran if we choose. But the leadership in the White House failed to respond. Remember when Iran shot down our Drone and Trump stopped the retaliatory attack on Iran minutes before it started. I starting to see a pattern here. No casualties that I`ve heard about, but the concussions, yes. I`ve said right from the start, that it was a huge mistake to not smash iran in the teeth when they fired missiles at our troops. Period. Having offered up zero response sends a horrible message to not only iran, but an and all bad actors who have their sights set on the U.S., our troops, allies, and any of our strategic interests. It may take some time to play out, or, we may see attacks on our people and interests shortly, either way, we`ve shown a huge weakness in our unwillingness to respond heavily and decisively to attacks on our armed services personnel.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 17, 2020 17:55:11 GMT -5
The problem with your answer is that the people in the war room don't get to decide what to do. General Kelly and General Mathis are no longer there advising Trump. He fired them both. I feel sorry for General Milley. If it were up to the Generals we would wipe Iran off the face of the earth. It's Trump that stopped them. So you are saying you are ok with Trump not protecting our troops in Iraq from Iranian Ballistic Missile attacks? You are saying that you are OK with Iran shooting Ballistic Missiles at our troops and giving them no means to avoid those Ballistic Missile Attacks. What would you say if Iran fired longer-range Ballistic Missiles and one landed on your house? Would you still be ok with that? I for one would not. Today the media is reporting that there were US causalities' from the Iranian Ballistic Missile Attacks. Those bunkers there our troops cowered were not built to withstand a direct hit by a 2000 lb. explosive warhead on a ballistic missile. Saddam built those concrete bunkers 20 years ago. And some of our troops sustained traumatic brain injuries from the concussive sound of the 2000 lb bomb exploding so close to their bunkers. Trump drew a line in the sand and Iran crossed it. Trump said that if any US troops were wounded or killed he would respond with excessive force. Then he did nothing. Now Iran knows that it can attack US Troops in Iraq and the USA will just stand down and not respond. Are you really OK with that? You don't put our men and women in harms way and not try to protect them to the best of your ability. Trump failed these people. You are right about one thing. Damned if you do... Damned if you don't. But we all know now that Trump talks a big talk, but when it comes down to action he is all bluff. At least it seems that way. Like I said, If I were in charge I would have let Iran know what happens when they attack our guy. They would regret the day they did that if I were in charge. We have the means to destroy Iran if we choose. But the leadership in the White House failed to respond. Remember when Iran shot down our Drone and Trump stopped the retaliatory attack on Iran minutes before it started. I starting to see a pattern here. No casualties that I`ve heard about, but the concussions, yes. I`ve said right from the start, that it was a huge mistake to not smash iran in the teeth when they fired missiles at our troops. Period. Having offered up zero response sends a horrible message to not only iran, but an and all bad actors who have their sights set on the U.S., our troops, allies, and any of our strategic interests. It may take some time to play out, or, we may see attacks on our people and interests shortly, either way, we`ve shown a huge weakness in our unwillingness to respond heavily and decisively to attacks on our armed services personnel. Review the definition of ”casualties”....I assumed it was death only also. BTW.... zero response is not true! “The United States imposed more sanctions on Iran on Friday in retaliation for its missile attack on U.S. forces in Iraq last week and vowed to tighten the economic screws if Tehran continued "terrorist" acts or pursued a nuclear bomb.” mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1ZF24J
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 17, 2020 18:47:04 GMT -5
Not sure CNN is a credible news agency. Trump is keeping the plates spinning and trying to make sure he stays in office to finish making this country great again. No matter what he does, the left and the press (one in the same) are going to make him out to be something he is not. He is absolutely capable, and rightly justified, to ignore advice from generals. He is the President and ultimately decides what is best for the country. Obama paid for the missiles they are hurling at us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 20:04:35 GMT -5
Not sure CNN is a credible news agency. Trump is keeping the plates spinning and trying to make sure he stays in office to finish making this country great again. No matter what he does, the left and the press (one in the same) are going to make him out to be something he is not. He is absolutely capable, and rightly justified, to ignore advice from generals. He is the President and ultimately decides what is best for the country. Obama paid for the missiles they are hurling at us. I agree with you to a point. As Commander In Chief, he has the option to override his advisors at any time, because they are, after all, only advisors. But, he showed incredibly poor judgement in allowing us to be attacked and offering NO response. He made a mistake is this regard, and has to be called out on it.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 17, 2020 20:54:27 GMT -5
Not sure CNN is a credible news agency. Trump is keeping the plates spinning and trying to make sure he stays in office to finish making this country great again. No matter what he does, the left and the press (one in the same) are going to make him out to be something he is not. He is absolutely capable, and rightly justified, to ignore advice from generals. He is the President and ultimately decides what is best for the country. Obama paid for the missiles they are hurling at us. I agree with you to a point. As Commander In Chief, he has the option to override his advisors at any time, because they are, after all, only advisors. But, he showed incredibly poor judgement in allowing us to be attacked and offering NO response. He made a mistake is this regard, and has to be called out on it. You keep saying there was no RESPONSE which is not true....yes there hasn't been a Military response YET to date but there has been a response in the form of more sanctions.
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Post by moose1am on Jan 19, 2020 9:06:24 GMT -5
What good will more sanctions do? The rest of the world is not applying sanctions to Iran. And Russia can ship overland to Iran. Iran can get what they want from other countries and does not need to trade with the USA. The only thing we could do to really sanction and hurt Iran is the shut off their oil that they sell to other world counties.
I was disappointed that Trump didn't order attacks on Iran using Military Force.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 13:08:26 GMT -5
Was going to look at the video again this morning after church and the video has been removed, with this message from YouTube: This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines. Unbelievable. Censorship, especially under the guise of some liberal propaganda is disgusting.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 9, 2020 13:37:28 GMT -5
Was going to look at the video again this morning after church and the video has been removed, with this message from YouTube: This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines. Unbelievable. Censorship, especially under the guise of some liberal propaganda is disgusting. Taken down because it’s FAKE.... Video Game youtu.be/clL9yZSbcE0 Same video I believe!
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