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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 25, 2020 18:07:40 GMT -5
Depends on your definition of “HPR”.. PCR`s have always been legal on both, right? I`m talking the calibers that were previously prohibited on public ground: .30-06, .270 etc. PCRs are ok on public as well as numerous wildcats that are ever bit as high powered as the HPRs.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Mar 25, 2020 18:46:08 GMT -5
My .350 Legend is usable on public.
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Post by parson on Mar 25, 2020 19:27:11 GMT -5
If I understand correctly, lines 25 & 26 of the amendment says that DNR has authority to designate use of rifles. I would think that this means that they "could" allow the same calibers on public & private land.
25The department may adopt rules under IC 4-22-2 to authorize the 26use of rifles on public property.
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Post by firstwd on Mar 25, 2020 19:39:30 GMT -5
If I understand correctly, lines 25 & 26 of the amendment says that DNR has authority to designate use of rifles. I would think that this means that they "could" allow the same calibers on public & private land. 25The department may adopt rules under IC 4-22-2 to authorize the 26use of rifles on public property. Correct. All we need is a public petition to allow equal use on both private and public land to start the process through the NRC.
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Post by esshup on Mar 26, 2020 0:07:00 GMT -5
Depends on your definition of “HPR”.. PCR`s have always been legal on both, right? I`m talking the calibers that were previously prohibited on public ground: .30-06, .270 etc. BUT those are also legal on public ground. It's not the case or cartridge that is illegal, it's the type of gun that they are fired in that makes them legal or illegal. Stupid in my thought, they had a chance to make it simple but dropped the ball. I konow a few people that hunt out West and have killed antelope and deer well past 1K yds with a cartridge and gun that is legal to use on public land here in Indiana.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 26, 2020 6:29:57 GMT -5
PCR`s have always been legal on both, right? I`m talking the calibers that were previously prohibited on public ground: .30-06, .270 etc. BUT those are also legal on public ground. It's not the case or cartridge that is illegal, it's the type of gun that they are fired in that makes them legal or illegal. Stupid in my thought, they had a chance to make it simple but dropped the ball. I konow a few people that hunt out West and have killed antelope and deer well past 1K yds with a cartridge and gun that is legal to use on public land here in Indiana. You lost me with your first paragraph..... many HPR rounds can be used on both public and private land with just trimming the case no matter with caliber is stamped on the gun. It all about the length of the case at the current time for public land . Of coarse bullet size is a factor also.
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 26, 2020 6:42:19 GMT -5
BUT those are also legal on public ground. It's not the case or cartridge that is illegal, it's the type of gun that they are fired in that makes them legal or illegal. Stupid in my thought, they had a chance to make it simple but dropped the ball. I konow a few people that hunt out West and have killed antelope and deer well past 1K yds with a cartridge and gun that is legal to use on public land here in Indiana. You lost me with your first paragraph..... many HPR rounds can be used on both public and private land with just trimming the case no matter with caliber is stamped on the gun. It all about the length of the case at the current time for public land . Of coarse bullet size is a factor also. Believe he is meaning how a HPR out of a pistol is legal on public.
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Post by deadeer on Mar 26, 2020 8:03:03 GMT -5
You lost me with your first paragraph..... many HPR rounds can be used on both public and private land with just trimming the case no matter with caliber is stamped on the gun. It all about the length of the case at the current time for public land . Of coarse bullet size is a factor also. Believe he is meaning how a HPR out of a pistol is legal on public. Bingo
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 26, 2020 9:08:06 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public.........
(kidding)
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Post by swetz on Mar 26, 2020 9:13:43 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public......... (kidding) I've only really hunted two states, here and where I grew up, so maybe I'm not in the best position to judge. However, Indiana's hunting regulations seem unduly complex to me.
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Post by medic22 on Mar 26, 2020 9:38:27 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public......... (kidding) You had me fuming for a second
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 26, 2020 9:39:22 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public......... (kidding) I've only really hunted two states, here and where I grew up, so maybe I'm not in the best position to judge. However, Indiana's hunting regulations seem unduly complex to me. I mean it isn't as simple as you can use anything included here (insert descrtiption) inside of this time frame (insert timee frame) and that is it...but truly if one reads the regulations book (digital or hardcopy) I don't find it complex. Just me.
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Post by tynimiller on Mar 26, 2020 9:39:43 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public......... (kidding) You had me fuming for a second LOL I bet man!
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Post by esshup on Mar 26, 2020 11:16:11 GMT -5
You lost me with your first paragraph..... many HPR rounds can be used on both public and private land with just trimming the case no matter with caliber is stamped on the gun. It all about the length of the case at the current time for public land . Of coarse bullet size is a factor also. Believe he is meaning how a HPR out of a pistol is legal on public. Correct. If you want to pick nits, technically it's not the cartridge that is legal or illegal, it's what firearm it is shot out of is what makes it legal or illegal. How's that for letting common sense fly out the window?
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Mar 26, 2020 11:54:14 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public......... (kidding) I've only really hunted two states, here and where I grew up, so maybe I'm not in the best position to judge. However, Indiana's hunting regulations seem unduly complex to me. I've hunted 11, and Indiana's are the most convoluted of them all. The only thing that comes close is the special regs for WMAs in the southeast.
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Post by parson on Mar 26, 2020 15:30:37 GMT -5
Believe he is meaning how a HPR out of a pistol is legal on public. Correct. If you want to pick nits, technically it's not the cartridge that is legal or illegal, it's what firearm it is shot out of is what makes it legal or illegal. How's that for letting common sense fly out the window? Prior to approval of PCR's I hunted with a Savage Striker- a bolt action hand gun- in .243 cal. It didn't have quite the velocity of a 20" barrel, but the accuracy was similar. It was, and is, legal on public and private land. And, no mayhem resulted from my usage of it.
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Post by sakorifle on Mar 26, 2020 16:55:05 GMT -5
I'll write the NRC about this and see if they can make sure those rounds no matter what they're shot out of are all illegal on public......... (kidding) I've only really hunted two states, here and where I grew up, so maybe I'm not in the best position to judge. However, Indiana's hunting regulations seem unduly complex to me. Then I have no chance of understanding them or there thinking from over the pond. Lol Regards Billy
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Post by mgderf on Mar 26, 2020 17:50:25 GMT -5
Correct. If you want to pick nits, technically it's not the cartridge that is legal or illegal, it's what firearm it is shot out of is what makes it legal or illegal. How's that for letting common sense fly out the window? Prior to approval of PCR's I hunted with a Savage Striker- a bolt action hand gun- in .243 cal. It didn't have quite the velocity of a 20" barrel, but the accuracy was similar. It was, and is, legal on public and private land. And, no mayhem resulted from my usage of it. I have one of those, but mine is chambered for .308 Winchester. It is a handful, to say the least!
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Post by duff on Mar 28, 2020 9:50:21 GMT -5
Between the rifle rules and the license structure IN is a mess in the deer hunting regulations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 10:07:48 GMT -5
I`m just glad it`s official, that I can use my .30-06 on private land for deer hunting, permanently now. If it gets expanded to public properties at some point, even better.
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