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Post by deerhunter23 on Nov 30, 2019 17:26:38 GMT -5
Alright fellas. I'm not holding my breathe but unless I get it done tomorrow, I'm hoping to get lucky during muzzle loader season.
Problem is I hardly ever see deer late season. Never killed a buck after November 19th.
What's yalls secrets to getting on deer. I figure food sources but with this warmer weather weve been having will that change anything?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 17:42:42 GMT -5
Alright fellas. I'm not holding my breathe but unless I get it done tomorrow, I'm hoping to get lucky during muzzle loader season. Problem is I hardly ever see deer late season. Never killed a buck after November 19th. What's yalls secrets to getting on deer. I figure food sources but with this warmer weather weve been having will that change anything? Understand that I`m far from a white-tail expert, especially since I`m just like you, not punched a tag yet this season, here`s what I know, (think): deer can get a little more predictable during muzzleloader because: the rut is winding down, and, hunting pressure begins to lessen. With that being said, yes, food sources become key, especially should we get bitterly cold weather, and then, even more so if we get moderate to heavy snow cover. With very cold temps and then snow cover, they have to work much harder at simply surviving. I remember a hunt I was on during late archery season with probably eight inches of snow on the ground, and very cold temps. I was in the stand early that afternoon, by 2:00m and at 2:30 saw a buck and a doe behind the stand, already heading to a food source. They had no choice but to head to feed because they need to burn calories just to stay warm and hopefully, survive. Depending on weather during muzzleloader, I`ll either try to focus on, and hunt close to bedding areas in the afternoon to catch them as they get up to head to feed, or, as a last resort, actually crawl into thickets very early in the morning and try to intercept them and knock one down as they come back to bed. When I do this, I`ll take my turkey seat with me, it`s reasonably comfortable to sit in, keeps me off the ground, and let`s me use a shooting stick so I`m not shooting offhand. |
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Post by medic22 on Nov 30, 2019 21:47:40 GMT -5
I tend to be burned out by the time muzzleloader rolls around so I dont have a ton of experience. Ive never had a ton of luck hunting pressured deer on field edges but I have had luck on ridge tops that get a lot of sun. Usually the browse has died out in the bottoms and those warm(er) ridge tops are still holding browse.
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Post by mgderf on Dec 1, 2019 9:26:43 GMT -5
I too am holding out hope for muzzle loader season.
I've been out quite a few times but have had no shot possibilities presented.
Well, there was one, but that doe was no bigger than a large dog.
I've gotten lucky a few times during muzzle loader season.
About 3 years ago I hit a coyote with my .50cal muzzle loader when he ran less than 20 feet in front of my hill-side blind.
There was barely enough time to pick that front-stuffer up out of my lap, shoulder and fire.
He was on a dead run, but dropped where I hit him.
I'd rather shoot a deer.
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Post by parrothead on Dec 1, 2019 12:10:11 GMT -5
They should start grouping up soon
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Post by jajwrigh on Dec 1, 2019 12:19:06 GMT -5
I too am holding out hope for muzzle loader season. I've been out quite a few times but have had no shot possibilities presented. Well, there was one, but that doe was no bigger than a large dog. I've gotten lucky a few times during muzzle loader season. About 3 years ago I hit a coyote with my .50cal muzzle loader when he ran less than 20 feet in front of my hill-side blind. There was barely enough time to pick that front-stuffer up out of my lap, shoulder and fire. He was on a dead run, but dropped where I hit him. I'd rather shoot a deer. Deer sure do taste better than coyotes! |
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Post by ms660 on Dec 1, 2019 21:19:28 GMT -5
The rut will reignite during the late muzzy season. Not as intense as the November rut but there will be does that were not bred the first go around that will come back in. Bucks will be looking again. One of my best bucks was killed in muzzy season chasing a doe.
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Post by genesis273 on Dec 3, 2019 15:31:08 GMT -5
I may get the Bowtech out Thursday afternoon but if not, the Traditions Vortex Strikefire is ready to roll.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 4, 2019 13:32:26 GMT -5
T/C Encore combo here. Rifle and handgun rifle is 45cal handgun is 50 cal. Going to hunt where I have been seeing them. Just hope I chose the right spot so I can get a clear shot
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Post by mstr2175 on Dec 4, 2019 19:51:31 GMT -5
Curious for those hunting this muzzle loader season and using black powder pellets, are you all shooting 100 grain or 150 grain? I have mine sighted in using only 100 but am wondering if anyone finds it necessary to have the extra powder?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 20:11:27 GMT -5
Curious for those hunting this muzzle loader season and using black powder pellets, are you all shooting 100 grain or 150 grain? I have mine sighted in using only 100 but am wondering if anyone finds it necessary to have the extra powder? I`m shooting a .50 caliber Knight Disc Extreme, and 150 grains of 777 with a CCI magnum shotgun primer. I tired loose powder because that was supposed to be more accurate, then I tried 100 grains of 777 pellets, and crazy as it is, the 150 grains of 777 pellets was most accurate from this rifle with that particular shotgun primer. Oh yeah, I`m shooting a 250 grain Barnes Polymer Tip Boat Tail bullet from Knight. |
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2019 20:21:43 GMT -5
I couldn't believe how hard it was to find a muzzleloader this week....I currently own 3 but 2 of them are Savage smokeless that dad cannot load and are way too much for my son to handle. I went looking for just about any model to set up along side my encore...Walmarts, rural Kings, multiple gunshops...struck out everywhere. Finally came across one at a small shop and after getting thoroughly hosed on the price I have a new CVA Optima all set up and ready to go for dad. Easton will use the encore with a reduced load of Blackhorn 209.
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Post by welder on Dec 4, 2019 20:48:53 GMT -5
I shot 3 50 grain pellets (150 grain magnum load) for 13 years in my Knight. Last year I bought a CVA Optima and sighted in with 2 pellets and a 295 gr. Powerbelt. I am well satisfied with the results. I haven't shot a deer with it yet, but I have split some big round blocks of white oak I shot into and 100 grains penetrates pretty deep.
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Post by mstr2175 on Dec 4, 2019 20:49:06 GMT -5
I couldn't believe how hard it was to find a muzzleloader this week....I currently own 3 but 2 of them are Savage smokeless that dad cannot load and are way too much for my son to handle. I went looking for just about any model to set up along side my encore...Walmarts, rural Kings, multiple gunshops...struck out everywhere. Finally came across one at a small shop and after getting thoroughly hosed on the price I have a new CVA Optima all set up and ready to go for dad. Easton will use the encore with a reduced load of Blackhorn 209. I had the same issue just finding supplies. Rural king, to my surprise, had nothing for muzzle loader except a starter kit, Walmart was out of primers. The only franchise that sold everything I needed was Dicks sporting goods. |
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Post by esshup on Dec 4, 2019 21:21:43 GMT -5
I couldn't believe how hard it was to find a muzzleloader this week....I currently own 3 but 2 of them are Savage smokeless that dad cannot load and are way too much for my son to handle. I went looking for just about any model to set up along side my encore...Walmarts, rural Kings, multiple gunshops...struck out everywhere. Finally came across one at a small shop and after getting thoroughly hosed on the price I have a new CVA Optima all set up and ready to go for dad. Easton will use the encore with a reduced load of Blackhorn 209. swik, what caliber are both Savages? I downloaded my 50 cal Savage so my nephew could shoot it with the 40 cal 200g Hornady SST. I downloaded it to the point where it delivered 1,000 fpe at 100 yds. It was like shooting a bb gun, and using a sabot within a sabot made loading easier. He killed 2 does the first year he hunted. |
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Post by esshup on Dec 4, 2019 21:26:32 GMT -5
After much delay, I finally got my butt in gear and got the scope mounted on the Savage ML and re-sighted it in. Took all of 4 shots, I'm using a very stiff charge of H-4198 pushing the 195g Barnes bullet nestled in the light blue harvestor sabot. CCI 209M primers. A little over 1" high at 100 yds, 1/2" low at 200 yds. I was going to run it over the chronograph but decided I didn't have enough time today. When I do, just to be safe I'll use kabob "toothpicks" instead of the metal rods to make the "V". I have already made an alluminum box with 1/2" thick lexan on the front at a 30° angle to deflect the sabot up and away. "just in case"
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2019 21:35:23 GMT -5
Both wear the factory 50 cal barrels...one laminate stock and one tupperware. I could have played around with them but the timing kind of forced my hand to put something together quickly.
I didn't bother shooting a group from the new gun...first shot was at 30 yards and adjust scope to match point of impact. Next 4 shots at 100 yards making subtle adjustments until the final shot was 3 high. Any of those 4 would have killed a deer.
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Post by boman on Dec 4, 2019 23:32:59 GMT -5
After much delay, I finally got my butt in gear and got the scope mounted on the Savage ML and re-sighted it in. Took all of 4 shots, I'm using a very stiff charge of H-4198 pushing the 195g Barnes bullet nestled in the light blue harvestor sabot. CCI 209M primers. A little over 1" high at 100 yds, 1/2" low at 200 yds. I was going to run it over the chronograph but decided I didn't have enough time today. When I do, just to be safe I'll use kabob "toothpicks" instead of the metal rods to make the "V". I have already made an alluminum box with 1/2" thick lexan on the front at a 30° angle to deflect the sabot up and away. "just in case" Essup, FWIW, I'm shooting 63.5gr 4198 with that bullet,sabot,primer combo out of a Remington with a 26in McGowan barrel and getting 2670fps-avg-5 shots std dev 14.88 Es 41. just under 1 moa. Takes 2 shots to foul the barrel and get it up to speed. I'm comfortable out to 250yds with the rifle. Steve |
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Post by esshup on Dec 5, 2019 0:31:01 GMT -5
bowman, add another 6.5 grains to your load....... This is a tight PacNor SS fluted barrel, I'm supposedly not able to shoot that much powder without blowing the sabot but that is the accuracy node where the gun likes it, and the sabots hold together. Last time I shot this at 300 yds, it was 8" low but I had it (IIRC) a wee bit high at 200 yds., maybe a 220 yd zero. This has the tupperware stock, the stock has the 3rd action screw mod so I can pull the bolt without loosening up the action and the mag well was filled with weights and epoxy.
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Post by hornzilla on Dec 5, 2019 8:31:35 GMT -5
I have a Knight disc. It is ready with (100 grains) 2 pellets. When I shot 3 pellets. The only thing I could see different was it smoked more and I ran out of pellets faster.
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