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Post by firstwd on Sept 11, 2019 20:26:39 GMT -5
Checked out the home country briefly. I am at a loss for the acreage of deer habitat and the picture showing that habitat.
What, exactly, are the parameters to be considered deer habitat?
I ask, because the farm we killed 10 deer off of last year doesn't fall in the "deer habitat" area.
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Post by duff on Sept 12, 2019 4:40:25 GMT -5
Recruitment is an issue and then beneath that are many issues like jjas listed. The issue however for me in recruitment is everyone jumps to deer hunting. Recruitment IMO needs done even before big game hunting is an option. Get them out in the squirrel woods or busting rabbits when being silent or holding still is less of a variable to success. If it weren't for squirrel hunting I know for a fact I wouldn't be a deer hunter. Turkey hunting is also another great way to get youth fired up. Fact of the matter is when my son (7 days old) is introduced to actual hunting it ain't gonna be deer, it undoubtedly will be squirrels. Will hunt my woods, public woods and any woods which will let that guy shake a squirrel call and blast some tree rats (or try to). Coming from a non-hunting family, I was taught how to deer hunt by a friend's family and I am forever grateful. I was very successful at harvesting deer starting at age 16. No "big" bucks, but consistent meat in the freezer, which is what my parents were all about. They grew up around hunting, but never got involved with it. To have me bring home deer like their uncles did was more than enough to make them happy and proud. I didn't really learn how to hunt squirrels until my late 20's. I think that's when I started squirrel hunting instead of carrying a .410 in the woods while deer scouting. Make sense? Anyway, just my story about learning to hunt. For what it's worth, I wouldn't walk across the street for a guaranteed turkey kill if the weather was even half-way favorable to go fishing. Just not an interest of mine. Pretty similar but I hunted rabbits birds and squirrels 1st. Deer at 16. Mom would cook what I brought home. Always felt good. Turkey hunting is probably last on my list too. Just never got into it. |
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Post by greghopper on Sept 12, 2019 6:47:49 GMT -5
Checked out the home country briefly. I am at a loss for the acreage of deer habitat and the picture showing that habitat. What, exactly, are the parameters to be considered deer habitat? I ask, because the farm we killed 10 deer off of last year doesn't fall in the "deer habitat" area. Email the publisher and ask him. |
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 12, 2019 8:24:33 GMT -5
Checked out the home country briefly. I am at a loss for the acreage of deer habitat and the picture showing that habitat. What, exactly, are the parameters to be considered deer habitat? I ask, because the farm we killed 10 deer off of last year doesn't fall in the "deer habitat" area. I had the same exact question! I am guessing the deer habitat is non-urban woodlots and crp fields only. Evidently farm fields are not considered deer habitat. Who knew?? |
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 12, 2019 11:10:58 GMT -5
Checked out the home country briefly. I am at a loss for the acreage of deer habitat and the picture showing that habitat. What, exactly, are the parameters to be considered deer habitat? I ask, because the farm we killed 10 deer off of last year doesn't fall in the "deer habitat" area. I had the same exact question! I am guessing the deer habitat is non-urban woodlots and crp fields only. Evidently farm fields are not considered deer habitat. Who knew?? To be fair agricultural fields are not deer habitat. They are merely deer food, and most only for a window of time. I don't know what their parameters were but I'd not include ag fields as deer habitat personally either. Most of the year they're deer deserts. |
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Post by jbird on Sept 12, 2019 11:17:39 GMT -5
I think we need 2 reports.
A harvest report - just the raw filtered data of the harvest. Break it down by county and weapon and antlered and antlerless and the like, but it's just data. Don't need to get too fancy. We input the data so why the DNR can't quickly run that data thru the various filters and publish it quickly seems odd.
Then later in the year publish a "deer management report". This includes the historical data, the DVC and depredation data, the hunter survey data and the harvest data that all guides the management process. And how that data was/is used to drive the coming seasons limit's, changes and the like.
I doubt the average hunter really cares other than if their area is increasing, decreasing or holding steady....and maybe how that impacts changes for next year. otherwise....they could care less.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 12, 2019 11:42:03 GMT -5
I think we need 2 reports. A harvest report - just the raw filtered data of the harvest. Break it down by county and weapon and antlered and antlerless and the like, but it's just data. Don't need to get too fancy. We input the data so why the DNR can't quickly run that data thru the various filters and publish it quickly seems odd. Then later in the year publish a "deer management report". This includes the historical data, the DVC and depredation data, the hunter survey data and the harvest data that all guides the management process. And how that data was/is used to drive the coming seasons limit's, changes and the like. I doubt the average hunter really cares other than if their area is increasing, decreasing or holding steady....and maybe how that impacts changes for next year. otherwise....they could care less. I do believe more immediate data is something on the horizon if honest. I personally LOVE Joe's reports as I love to over analyze and probably do more than needed for sure. |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 12, 2019 20:48:45 GMT -5
I had the same exact question! I am guessing the deer habitat is non-urban woodlots and crp fields only. Evidently farm fields are not considered deer habitat. Who knew?? To be fair agricultural fields are not deer habitat. They are merely deer food, and most only for a window of time. I don't know what their parameters were but I'd not include ag fields as deer habitat personally either. Most of the year they're deer deserts. I can agree with that. The farm I hunt is 143 acres with just over 100 in crops. 43 acres of woods grass patches, creeks, and a road. The farms or the 400 acres of woods it connects to are not there. It is possible the map is a bit off, saying so very little of this county is deer habitat seems odd. |
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