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Post by firehawk on Jul 22, 2005 19:03:05 GMT -5
I just fletched up a bolt with three, 2" Blazer Vanes, using an AAE fletcher. I'm not sure of the term, but I think it puts a little ?offset? in the vane. I use these vanes with my compound and have been impressed with them.
Results were, the bolt flies exactly as the others with the 5" vanes at 20, and 30 yards. I haven't tried at 40 yards yet, I don't have that much room in my backyard.
The nice thing about this is the Blazers are MUCH more durable than other vanes. I have shot out the insert in my 3D deer target, and I shot this bolt into it, and buried the vanes in it. I pulled it out from the back, and there is NO damage to the vanes. I haven't been able to say that with the 5" vanes that are on the bolts.
The bolt was about 30 grains lighter with the Blazers also. So I will be bumping up to 125 grain heads.
Just an FYI post, I'll be using them this fall.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 22, 2005 19:25:04 GMT -5
I've looked at them and actually have a package of them that I won as a door prize, but never fletched any.
I still scratch my head as how they can work as well as 4 or 5 inch vanes can.
I might follow you lead and try a few..
Thanks for sharing..
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Post by garyl on Jul 22, 2005 19:28:32 GMT -5
Yep the Arizona E-Z flecther can put a 1 to 4deg off set depending on which one you have. Reads like you have the 1 or 2 deg. offset, I love mine for flecthing bolts and arrows fast and easy. I will have too try a set of them vanes (Blazers) thanks for the information on how they did for you....  |
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Post by firehawk on Jul 22, 2005 19:40:22 GMT -5
I've looked at them and actually have a package of them that I won as a door prize, but never fletched any. I still scratch my head as how they can work as well as 4 or 5 inch vanes can. I might follow you lead and try a few.. Thanks for sharing.. Woody, I think it has to do with the fact they are a MUCH stiffer vane. I shoot a Whisker Buscuit on my compound, and they stand up to it better than the AAE vanes I had been using. Instead of wrinkling like the AAE vanes, they only show a little scuffing on the edges. |
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Post by firehawk on Jul 23, 2005 22:36:40 GMT -5
Just an update to my earlier posts. I had only shot fieldpoints with the Blazers yesterday.
This afternoon, I shot a bolt fletched with Blazers, and a 100 gr. Sonic broadhead to see if they would stabilize a fixed blade broadhead. Good news, it flew exactly as the fieldpoints. This was at 20 yards. I didn't shoot it at 30 yards yet, but I have no reason to believe I won't get the same results at 30. We'll see.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 24, 2005 7:28:35 GMT -5
Just an update to my earlier posts. I had only shot fieldpoints with the Blazers yesterday. This afternoon, I shot a bolt fletched with Blazers, and a 100 gr. Sonic broadhead to see if they would stabilize a fixed blade broadhead. Good news, it flew exactly as the fieldpoints. This was at 20 yards. I didn't shoot it at 30 yards yet, but I have no reason to believe I won't get the same results at 30. We'll see. You've peaked my interest.. I'll have to fletch up a few and give them a try.. |
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Post by garyl on Jul 24, 2005 10:00:10 GMT -5
I just fletched up a bolt with three, 2" Blazer Vanes, using an AAE fletcher. I'm not sure of the term, but I think it puts a little ?offset? in the vane. I use these vanes with my compound and have been impressed with them. Results were, the bolt flies exactly as the others with the 5" vanes at 20, and 30 yards. I haven't tried at 40 yards yet, I don't have that much room in my backyard. The nice thing about this is the Blazers are MUCH more durable than other vanes. I have shot out the insert in my 3D deer target, and I shot this bolt into it, and buried the vanes in it. I pulled it out from the back, and there is NO damage to the vanes. I haven't been able to say that with the 5" vanes that are on the bolts. The bolt was about 30 grains lighter with the Blazers also. So I will be bumping up to 125 grain heads. Just an FYI post, I'll be using them this fall. Just curious but is the AAE Fletcher the Arizona E-Z Fletcher ? |
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Post by John on Jul 24, 2005 10:08:46 GMT -5
They seem awfull short to me? How do you think they would handle a little bigger broadhead?
Say 125 gr. 1-1/8 dia. or better at say 30 yds? Doesn't seem to be much there to start the spin good. I'm also very curios. Although they would cut the wind better on those bad days, or heavy rain.
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Post by firehawk on Jul 24, 2005 14:34:14 GMT -5
I just fletched up a bolt with three, 2" Blazer Vanes, using an AAE fletcher. I'm not sure of the term, but I think it puts a little ?offset? in the vane. I use these vanes with my compound and have been impressed with them. Results were, the bolt flies exactly as the others with the 5" vanes at 20, and 30 yards. I haven't tried at 40 yards yet, I don't have that much room in my backyard. The nice thing about this is the Blazers are MUCH more durable than other vanes. I have shot out the insert in my 3D deer target, and I shot this bolt into it, and buried the vanes in it. I pulled it out from the back, and there is NO damage to the vanes. I haven't been able to say that with the 5" vanes that are on the bolts. The bolt was about 30 grains lighter with the Blazers also. So I will be bumping up to 125 grain heads. Just an FYI post, I'll be using them this fall. Just curious but is the AAE Fletcher the Arizona E-Z Fletcher ? garyl, Nope, they are two different fletching jigs. The AAE jig is like a "conventional jig". It has a seperate clamp. I like it, almost better than my Grayling. Plus AAE has a crossbow bolt nock adapter. John, Please understand, I don't claim to be any kind of "expert", or "know it all". They claim that the Blazers have as much "steering" capability as a 4" vane. From my experience I have no reason to disagree. Most likely because they are much stiffer. I only tested with a 100 gr. Sonic that I shoot with my compound. It has a 7/8" cut. I am going to shoot the 125 gr. Sonics out of my crossbow, and they have a 1" cut. I'll shoot them as soon as they get here. Other than the fact I have plenty of Blazers already, I was curious myself about cutting down on the drag caused by the 5" vanes on the bolts. Just wondered if I could gain a little speed from the smaller vane even though I was bumping up to a heavier broadhead. Plus I love to tinker with stuff. |
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Post by John on Jul 24, 2005 17:21:01 GMT -5
Let us know how they perform with the 125 gr. heads at 30 yds. that would be a very good indicator as to the limits and trajectory. I am most curios. Waiting for your results.
I went from 5 in. fletching to 4 in. but added more off-set to get better results. Feathers so far seem to perform better. But I am always open to change for the better.
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Post by firehawk on Jul 31, 2005 19:41:58 GMT -5
Let us know how they perform with the 125 gr. heads at 30 yds. that would be a very good indicator as to the limits and trajectory. I am most curios. Waiting for your results. I went from 5 in. fletching to 4 in. but added more off-set to get better results. Feathers so far seem to perform better. But I am always open to change for the better. Sorry, but it took a while for the 125 grain Sonics to get here. The results with the 125 gr. heads was the same as the 100 gr. heads, at 20 yards. Excellent flight. I have one bolt that consistantly hits a little high, and left, but the other 5 shoot dead on. I will try them at 30 yards one evening this week. I'll try "tweeking" that one bolt, and see what I can do with it. It isn't off more than 1"-2" high, and left. So my experience is, fieldpoints, and 1" cut broadheads shoot great with Blazer vanes at 280+ fps. |
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Post by John on Aug 1, 2005 11:43:46 GMT -5
Hey firehawk:
Glad results are going good. The one flyer bolt might be 'broadhead of set", try rolling it on the end of a flat table to see if it wobbles. Otherwise keep in touch with how the 30 yd range turns out. Just about everything is good at 20 yd. but at 30 yd. things start to change and show better, especially with different fletchings. Have fun, keep us informed.
john
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 1, 2005 13:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by John on Aug 1, 2005 15:13:31 GMT -5
Very nice Woody:
Can't see you having any problems finding those. Are you going to test them at 30 yds. also?
Do you think the flourescent green is more visible than the Flourescent orange?
Very nice!
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 5, 2005 20:03:39 GMT -5
I fletched up some carbon arrows with the Blazers for my Exomag (355 grains) and my TenPoint (420 grains).
As best I could see they all flew very well even with Wasp Hammers..
The white lacquer cresting helps a little in watching them fly but both bows are so quick it is hard to tell 100% for sure.
They did hit where I was aiming at..
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Post by John on Aug 15, 2005 16:48:32 GMT -5
Did anyone try those Blazer vanes out to 30 - 35 yds. yet?
Still curious as to the results. They would also be good in rain hunts.
Just want to know how they perform out a little farther.
John
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 15, 2005 19:32:58 GMT -5
Did anyone try those Blazer vanes out to 30 - 35 yds. yet? Still curious as to the results. They would also be good in rain hunts. Just want to know how they perform out a little farther. John I only shoot 30 and 40 yards. The Blazers flew just fine from 30 yards. That was with field points and Wasp SST Hammers. |
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Post by John on Aug 15, 2005 19:49:33 GMT -5
They seem so short that they are hard to get a good feel for them.
But in bad, windy weather, they could be the right ticket!
John
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Post by firehawk on Aug 15, 2005 22:00:41 GMT -5
Did anyone try those Blazer vanes out to 30 - 35 yds. yet? Still curious as to the results. They would also be good in rain hunts. Just want to know how they perform out a little farther. John Sorry, I know I said I would get back with results from 30 yards. Things have been hectic at work, and my son's football practice. I simply haven't been able to shoot 30 yards yet. I did notice that woody has shot at 30 yards with good results. I assume I will too. |
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Post by leo on Aug 18, 2005 6:48:25 GMT -5
Put my 1'st blazers on a GT 2 for my vixen yesterday, total arrow weight 327g, and it shoots great with a field point, will try on b-heads later  WW' love the cresting ;D |
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