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Post by blackmouthcur on Nov 21, 2018 21:02:08 GMT -5
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Post by featherduster on Nov 21, 2018 21:21:24 GMT -5
Yes it's an invasive plant but as your photos depict it's the last green plant as winter nears and by what I have seen deer love it.
Keep some but control the rest.
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Post by duff on Nov 22, 2018 17:35:43 GMT -5
It is nasty. I use my tractor, torch and glyphosate where I can on this stuff, multiflora rose and autumn olive. That is the tip of the iceburg.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 19:53:37 GMT -5
Where I live it's everywhere. I've been fighting it for 26 years. I found out a couple years ago gray dogwoods can complete.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Nov 22, 2018 20:02:51 GMT -5
Where I live it's everywhere. I've been fighting it for 26 years. I found out a couple years ago gray dogwoods can complete. Thanks for the info Waynes, I’ll be ordering some gray dogwood for next spring. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 20:34:57 GMT -5
Where I live it's everywhere. I've been fighting it for 26 years. I found out a couple years ago gray dogwoods can complete. Thanks for the info Waynes, I’ll be ordering some gray dogwood for next spring. I had a small plot of gray dogwoods and I noticed no Asian honeysuckle. Last few years I've been helping the dogwoods grow |
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Post by steiny on Nov 25, 2018 13:13:25 GMT -5
That stuff is pretty well taking over the midwest. I've had pretty good luck spray killing it in later summer. Much easier than cutting.
Like the stuff or not, it is pretty darned good wildlife habitat.
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Post by tynimiller on Nov 25, 2018 14:46:06 GMT -5
IT is not desirable...BUT I know folks that won't hinge or encourage anything else and it can survive in more closed canopy woods than nearly anything else, which is why it is so spread everywhere. I am logging large portions this year and in spring green Pops and I will be doing hack and squirt on all BUSH honeysuckle around the areas.
Stuff takes over and I have one area I am just containing until other areas are logged, hinged and established bedding options than that section will get dozed, prepped and switchgrass planted.
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Post by tynimiller on Nov 25, 2018 14:47:52 GMT -5
Where I live it's everywhere. I've been fighting it for 26 years. I found out a couple years ago gray dogwoods can complete. Yup, gray dogwoods and serviceberry are the two types foresters have told me to plant. You may have to treat the BH in year 1 through 3 but by year 4 the GD and serviceberry should start outcompeting it for sure, if not sooner. I am gonna mix some dwarf Chinkapin plantings in beddings areas as well. |
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Post by blackmouthcur on Nov 25, 2018 14:54:16 GMT -5
That stuff is pretty well taking over the midwest. I've had pretty good luck spray killing it in later summer. Much easier than cutting. Like the stuff or not, it is pretty darned good wildlife habitat. It does provide cover, that’s for sure but it’s really not good for your forest especially if you want it for timber. It actually releases chemicals into the soil to poison competition until your left with nothing but a honeysuckle patch. |
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Post by duff on Nov 25, 2018 20:04:13 GMT -5
Replace with spice brush and on the edges hazelnut thickets. Where I have good population of those autumn olive and honeysuckle is minimal.
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Post by tynimiller on Nov 26, 2018 17:37:32 GMT -5
That stuff is pretty well taking over the midwest. I've had pretty good luck spray killing it in later summer. Much easier than cutting. Like the stuff or not, it is pretty darned good wildlife habitat. It does provide cover, that’s for sure but it’s really not good for your forest especially if you want it for timber. It actually releases chemicals into the soil to poison competition until your left with nothing but a honeysuckle patch. Honestly, for this reason I'd rather deal and have Autumn Olive than BH. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 13:54:51 GMT -5
What is really sad it wipes out all other species and all the creatures of the land leave. It's amazing what wildlife has come back since removal of it. Including deer and turkey. Now that it is cold it's time to tackle it again.
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Post by jbird on Nov 28, 2018 15:36:26 GMT -5
I fight this stuff at my place as well. The neighbor's place is covered in it. it wasn't so bad until they had their place logged and it simply exploded. I fight it and push it back, but it will never be "gone". The deer do like it from a cover perspective, but the stuff simply chokes out everything else... I hunt it year round... It tends to be one of the first things to green up in the spring, tends to be one of the last green plants in the winter and the white/yellow flowers can give it away in the spring/summer. The red berries/fruit can also be another sign to look for as well. The ONLY place I have ever seen it not grow is under a dense canopy...it needs some sunlight, but not much and it between the birds and other critters moving the seed, it will most certainly spread if given even 1/2 a chance.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Nov 29, 2018 8:38:32 GMT -5
I fight this stuff at my place as well. The neighbor's place is covered in it. it wasn't so bad until they had their place logged and it simply exploded. I fight it and push it back, but it will never be "gone". The deer do like it from a cover perspective, but the stuff simply chokes out everything else... I hunt it year round... It tends to be one of the first things to green up in the spring, tends to be one of the last green plants in the winter and the white/yellow flowers can give it away in the spring/summer. The red berries/fruit can also be another sign to look for as well. The ONLY place I have ever seen it not grow is under a dense canopy...it needs some sunlight, but not much and it between the birds and other critters moving the seed, it will most certainly spread if given even 1/2 a chance. It’s funny you should mention logging, mine was logged out just before I purchased it and 20 years later honeysuckle is all that remains for a forest floor. Though like you said it is a little thinner under younger trees. I don’t know if I will be able to get it under control or even if it’s worth the trouble. |
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Post by jbird on Nov 29, 2018 13:09:11 GMT -5
I fight this stuff at my place as well. The neighbor's place is covered in it. it wasn't so bad until they had their place logged and it simply exploded. I fight it and push it back, but it will never be "gone". The deer do like it from a cover perspective, but the stuff simply chokes out everything else... I hunt it year round... It tends to be one of the first things to green up in the spring, tends to be one of the last green plants in the winter and the white/yellow flowers can give it away in the spring/summer. The red berries/fruit can also be another sign to look for as well. The ONLY place I have ever seen it not grow is under a dense canopy...it needs some sunlight, but not much and it between the birds and other critters moving the seed, it will most certainly spread if given even 1/2 a chance. It’s funny you should mention logging, mine was logged out just before I purchased it and 20 years later honeysuckle is all that remains for a forest floor. Though like you said it is a little thinner under younger trees. I don’t know if I will be able to get it under control or even if it’s worth the trouble. I just hate how it displaces everything else. I have had some that the stump was as big around as my wrist before, but those met the chainsaw and a treatment of gly on the stump! if it is thick and wide spread I would think you would have to do some sort of brush mowing and then spray and simply work one small area at a time. If I recall properly I think I read someplace that the roots actually produce a chemical to reduce competition for these things as well. On my place, canada thistle, johnsongrass, stilt grass and bush honey suckle are the top invasives I have and fight on a regular basis. My neighbors place looks like some of the pictures posted and I just cringe because I know they don't care and with my effort to control it, it would do the same in my woods as well. |
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 3, 2018 11:47:36 GMT -5
Little tip for those eradicating large areas of it.
Those things honestly suppress competitors so much the pictures share are likely to happen and you went from at least cover to nothing...disturb the soil after eradication anyway possible....small quad with disc behind running...brush hog at minimum even just anything to disturb the soil and encourage growth out of the dormant seeds.
Logging and strategic hinge cutting to get light down to ground could be huge too.
Know though you will be battling the stuff and need to strategically go in with chainsaw or hack and squirt method for years till better stuff beats it out.
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Post by esshup on Dec 5, 2018 1:26:02 GMT -5
Will it survive a controlled burn (or come back)?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 8:53:19 GMT -5
Will it survive a controlled burn (or come back)? Don't know, but my bet it will survive. |
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Post by throbak on Dec 5, 2018 9:19:04 GMT -5
Will it survive a controlled burn (or come back)? Don't know, but my bet it will survive. yes fire slows it but no kill |
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