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Post by esshup on Nov 3, 2018 18:24:25 GMT -5
Maybe late to the party but I just placed an order for a .450 Bushmaster upper. Has anyone shot or used one? This one has a 20" barrel. I figure that it'd be less expensive to shoot than my slug gun on public land, and when the time comes I can reload for it.
I don't expect to shoot much past 150 yds with it, and most likely under 100 yds so I ^think^ it should be fine.
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Post by bullseye69 on Nov 5, 2018 5:13:17 GMT -5
My late buddy had one and I helped him sight it in.
It is a boomer for sure.
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 5, 2018 9:04:05 GMT -5
IIRC, Lawrencecountyhunter has one.
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Post by throbak on Nov 5, 2018 9:59:19 GMT -5
I have a Rugar American in 450 Bushmaster, Super accurate Same ballistics as A MZL Only no cleaning and more accurate perfect for me
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Post by butlerj on Nov 5, 2018 21:49:01 GMT -5
How is the recoil on these. Comparable to ? gauged shotgun?
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Post by esshup on Nov 6, 2018 6:57:08 GMT -5
How is the recoil on these. Comparable to ? gauged shotgun? I don't think it will be as bad as some slug guns. I shot the same weight bullet at the same velocity from my Savage .50 cal muzzleloader and it's not bad. Since the barrel is threaded already, if the recoil is objectionable I'll put a well designed brake on it which is something that can't be done on slug guns that shoot sabots. |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Nov 6, 2018 8:10:40 GMT -5
I have one if the Bushmaster 20" uppers. I like it quite a bit.
Recoil is similar to a lightweight.30/30 on mine. With a 150 yard zero, you're good to a bit past 200 just holding dead on. Past that it starts to drop quick. I use the Hornady 250gr "Custom" loads (I think it's an FTX bullet).
I use mine mostly for hogs now, still some deer hunting. It's a hard-hitter.
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Post by esshup on Nov 6, 2018 19:11:11 GMT -5
My nephew raised a question that I *think* I found the answer to, but want to check to make sure. The lower that I have will have a recoil spring and buffer for a .223. Will I need to change it out for a heavier one? I'm assuming the upper is built correctly for the .450 Bushmaster cartridge - It's from Buds Gun Shop, no idea who actually makes the upper.
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Post by bullseye69 on Nov 7, 2018 13:14:56 GMT -5
The upper should come with the correct spring a buffer if they are different from the 223.
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Post by esshup on Nov 7, 2018 23:34:10 GMT -5
The upper should come with the correct spring a buffer if they are different from the 223. I did a lot of reading last night, and the stock .223 one with work fine. There is something to do wit the gas block, and how it's tailored to that round so it will work with the standard spring/recoil buffer. |
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 9, 2018 7:41:01 GMT -5
My nephew raised a question that I *think* I found the answer to, but want to check to make sure. The lower that I have will have a recoil spring and buffer for a .223. Will I need to change it out for a heavier one? I'm assuming the upper is built correctly for the .450 Bushmaster cartridge - It's from Buds Gun Shop, no idea who actually makes the upper. Uppers, pretty much, are just made to function. Period. The spring (not part of the upper) is dependent on what buffer tube is on the lower (carbine or rifle) and usually just a standard-weight buffer. Function can be fine-tuned by use of differing weight buffers in the lower or with an adjustable gas block on the upper. If I needed to fine-tune my upper, I would go with an adjustable gas block. That way you could play with the tuning no matter what lower it was attached to. |
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Post by esshup on Nov 11, 2018 6:47:35 GMT -5
My nephew raised a question that I *think* I found the answer to, but want to check to make sure. The lower that I have will have a recoil spring and buffer for a .223. Will I need to change it out for a heavier one? I'm assuming the upper is built correctly for the .450 Bushmaster cartridge - It's from Buds Gun Shop, no idea who actually makes the upper. Uppers, pretty much, are just made to function. Period. The spring (not part of the upper) is dependent on what buffer tube is on the lower (carbine or rifle) and usually just a standard-weight buffer. Function can be fine-tuned by use of differing weight buffers in the lower or with an adjustable gas block on the upper. If I needed to fine-tune my upper, I would go with an adjustable gas block. That way you could play with the tuning no matter what lower it was attached to. That's a very good suggestion! I picked up the upper yesterday, and all the resto f the pieces were delivered Thurs/Fri. Today I'll throw everything together. Is one adjustable gas block any better than another? |
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Post by throbak on Nov 12, 2018 16:07:49 GMT -5
Just got back from the range Shooting the RA 450 Bushmaster Wow is all I can say
Dead on 25 yd 1 1/2 high at 50 ,2 1/2 high at 100 that’s all the range I had at the range I was at all groups Touching I believe I can hold dead on out to 200 , 150 anyway! point being I can hold fed on our to 150 no guess or by golly No recoil , a little noisy but what a great little gun for Indiana
Straight wall cartridge Rugar American hit a home run with this one !! Oh Hornady Black , 250 FTX bullet same Balistic as a MZL shorting same bullet with 2 pellets I believe..
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 16, 2018 17:31:03 GMT -5
I use one in the 16" barrel configuration from Bushmaster. I won it from Brownell's years ago for being their millionth customer. Anyways, I shot a nice 10pt drop tine with it a few years ago. Hit's hard for sure. Great round for deer.
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 16, 2018 20:00:27 GMT -5
Uppers, pretty much, are just made to function. Period. The spring (not part of the upper) is dependent on what buffer tube is on the lower (carbine or rifle) and usually just a standard-weight buffer. Function can be fine-tuned by use of differing weight buffers in the lower or with an adjustable gas block on the upper. If I needed to fine-tune my upper, I would go with an adjustable gas block. That way you could play with the tuning no matter what lower it was attached to. That's a very good suggestion! I picked up the upper yesterday, and all the resto f the pieces were delivered Thurs/Fri. Today I'll throw everything together. Is one adjustable gas block any better than another? I have never felt the need to do any tuning to mine. They shoot great and function well enough. My 5.56 is a little over gassed, but that is better than under in my opinion for the 5.56. Adjustable gas blocks are like truck brands, rifle brands, scope brands, ... everyone has their own opinion if they are using one. Lurk some forums like ar15.com, 65Grendel, ... and you will pick up on some that get used more than others. All I know is that they all say to get one that has a lock set screw to secure the setting once you find where you like to have it set. |
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 18, 2018 11:13:04 GMT -5
I wanted to post a quick update here about this caliber. Yesterday, I shot my 2nd mature buck with the .450 Bushmaster and it hits them really hard. The furthest that either traveled after being hit was 30 yards. My bullets never exit and turn their lungs into tomato soup. Perfect! The muzzle blast from the inside of a blind may have permanently damaged my hearing in my left ear, so I will need to figure something out there. For the people that bash the round (surprisingly to me there are a lot) they have clearly never used one on actually game animals.
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Post by esshup on Nov 23, 2018 18:11:00 GMT -5
I shot it for the first time today with a Nikon Buckmasters II 3-9x50 scope. While the scope was clear, the tracking (click adjustment) left a LOT to be desired. First it tracked OK, then it didn't then all the adjustments I had made decided to show up at once. I ended up going thru 1/2 box of ammo when I normally can get a gun sighted in at 100 yds in 2-3 shots. Group size at 100 yds was 1" wide x 3/4" tall, can't complain about that. Recoil wasn't bad, brass ended up about 12" from the gun. No time to chrono the rounds, I'll do that when I shoot the muzzleloader. All in all I'm happy with the gun, not so much with the scope but it'll do for what I'm planning on using it for.
The bullet is basically the same that I shoot out of the 50 cal muzzleloader, and the FPS is about the same too, so I have no concerns about bullet performance. Hopefully I will get to have some real world bullet performance results at the park hunt on Mon/Tues.
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Post by jimstc on Nov 30, 2018 11:05:08 GMT -5
I shot it for the first time today with a Nikon Buckmasters II 3-9x50 scope. While the scope was clear, the tracking (click adjustment) left a LOT to be desired. First it tracked OK, then it didn't then all the adjustments I had made decided to show up at once. I ended up going thru 1/2 box of ammo when I normally can get a gun sighted in at 100 yds in 2-3 shots. Group size at 100 yds was 1" wide x 3/4" tall, can't complain about that. Recoil wasn't bad, brass ended up about 12" from the gun. No time to chrono the rounds, I'll do that when I shoot the muzzleloader. All in all I'm happy with the gun, not so much with the scope but it'll do for what I'm planning on using it for. The bullet is basically the same that I shoot out of the 50 cal muzzleloader, and the FPS is about the same too, so I have no concerns about bullet performance. Hopefully I will get to have some real world bullet performance results at the park hunt on Mon/Tues. Leupold makes a scope calibrated for the cartridge. Part #176651. I think I paid around $230. Did an internet search to find it. It is the VX-Freedom 3-9x40. The only drawback is there is no lockdown for the elevation and I understand why. Once zeroed I just put electric tape on the turrets.. I learned that trick on this forum and if I remember correctly, from you. |
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Post by throbak on Nov 30, 2018 11:57:59 GMT -5
I shot my second deer with mine yesterday both shots were pass through shots double lung and one lung neither went 100 yards no problems Like mentioned same bullet and ballistics as MZL I have the Leupold reticle scope haven’t dialed it in yet . I use same aim point for 25 to 150 yards 2 1/2 in diff not enough to worry about imo ..Recoil can’t say I haven’t noticed it so minimal at the best. Love it Rugar American Can’t beat it .
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Post by gsxrbrian on Sept 11, 2019 21:30:58 GMT -5
My American shoots well can't keep a group under 6" I flinch like a school girl when I shoot it. It has a decent recoil but not bad 20gauge ish it is very loud
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