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Post by jimstc on Mar 24, 2018 12:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 24, 2018 14:06:54 GMT -5
I'm definitely tired of winning
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Post by medic22 on Mar 24, 2018 15:37:10 GMT -5
The really annoying part is nobody is talking about the fact that the same thing can be accomplished with a belt loop. Not accurate you say? An overwhelming majority of injuries in the Vegas shooting were caused by richocet snd not direct impact.
You can bump fire an SX3 with a belt loop.
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Post by swilk on Mar 24, 2018 16:36:05 GMT -5
IMO it would not stand a courts challenge...
Wether anyone will spend the money to challenge is the question.
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 24, 2018 17:05:53 GMT -5
I mean I get it but if we have to give something I am perfectly content with the bump fire being that thing.
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Post by swilk on Mar 24, 2018 17:44:37 GMT -5
I'm tired of giving without getting. Ive often said that I hope to one day hear, read about or even come up with myself a solution for predicting and stopping the actions of man before those actions occur but to date it's not happened. Until then I might be willing to compromise if it were a two way street. I'd give as long as I get but there is never any "get" it's always just give.
Considering we started with a constitutional guarantee of an absolute right to own arms it been nothing but give for the last 240 years.
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Post by bartiks on Mar 24, 2018 19:14:19 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more swilk, but as my father has always said they will not go and try to ban fire arms outright, they will chip away at what you need to have them. Or what they need on them, definitely a slippery slope.
After all the mass casualty incidents within the last 10 years or so I've always thought, it's protected by our constitution. However this time "feels" different to me. Just can't quite explain it.
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Post by Pinoc on Mar 24, 2018 21:01:05 GMT -5
I am one of those dangerous people with an AR with a bump stock on it and it has never killed anyone. But man is it fun to shoot!
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Post by jimstc on Mar 25, 2018 6:23:59 GMT -5
I mean I get it but if we have to give something I am perfectly content with the bump fire being that thing. My point in starting this thread is that it won't stop here. This will energize the anti's and encourage them that a Republican administration will work with them to minimize our Second Amendment rights. Hypothetically, what if someone who paid the tax and owns a fully automatic weapon goes on a rampage? Will they be illegal next? Agreeing to have your rights limited is indeed a slippery slope and we are on one now. It will only get worse. |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 25, 2018 6:47:40 GMT -5
I mean I get it but if we have to give something I am perfectly content with the bump fire being that thing. Indeed...... some may never see any way but theirs! Sad... |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 25, 2018 7:20:16 GMT -5
I mean I get it but if we have to give something I am perfectly content with the bump fire being that thing. Indeed...... some may never see any way but theirs! Sad... Sad??? Someone who will defend their principles and their Constitutionally guaranteed rights from the liberal elitists who think they know better than me what is good or right for me. Curious. Very curious..... Fortunately there are millions more like me who will not stand down when our rights are under attack in the name of compromise. Bump stocks have been used once in a mass murder. Think about it. How many times have AR's been used? Are you going to accept the AR Ban of 2018 or 2019 or 2020 in the name of compromise? It is coming because the door is open and this administration opened it. |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 25, 2018 7:59:55 GMT -5
I will support what the NRA supports.....I didn't realize some think the liberals are nested there!
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Post by jimstc on Mar 25, 2018 8:15:43 GMT -5
I will support what the NRA supports.....I didn't realize some think the liberals are nested there! I don't need an organization to tell me how to think or what to decide. I can do that on my own. And I will never blindly follow an organization, political party or President. If we lose the facility of critical, independent thinking then we are indeed lost |
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Post by freedomhunter on Mar 25, 2018 8:21:36 GMT -5
I'm ok with giving up a stupid gimmick like bump stops. I don't like teetering on that slippery slope of continuing to ban things, that is a concern as it always is. Maybe we have to pick our battles wisely, right now, until emotions cool down.
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 25, 2018 8:23:20 GMT -5
I love everyone’s thoughts on this but.
I don’t like when it is ok to censor /edit/ oppress / repress/ restrict peoples rights so long as they aren’t aligned with yours.
Civil, constitutional, inalienable rights... doesn’t matter what good for the goose is good for the gander.
Maybe they are taking the bump stocks to quiet the situation down a little.
Maybe they are mouth breathing gun grabbers?
I don’t know the motives but I know what I alone can do about it.
I know that until the push is further that gun owners as a whole aren’t going to push back hard enough to notice.
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Post by jimstc on Mar 25, 2018 8:24:58 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Mar 25, 2018 8:38:09 GMT -5
In the next mid terms, if this youth movement has continued to grow and can truly affect who wins/loses @ the ballot box with their votes/influence @ the state and federal level...then I think we'll see that this time is "different" and gun owners may find themselves looking @ changes that aren't wanted.
Will that happen? It hasn't in the past, but boomers are dying off and younger people are soon to be the largest voting block.
If they vote (and vote that way)...
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 25, 2018 9:02:14 GMT -5
It’s our responsibility to educate the youth about gun ownership and the rights involved it appears that the parents and grandparents of the voting youth should’ve done a better job presenting their side of the gun control argument
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Post by greghopper on Mar 25, 2018 9:20:52 GMT -5
Its going to a LONGGGGG 8 years for some...they better prepare them selfs
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Post by medic22 on Mar 25, 2018 10:42:37 GMT -5
No more compromising. In my 34 years all we've done is compromise and that goes back longer than Ive been around.
I supported gay marriage.
I supported everyones right to assemble.
I supported fair and equal treatment for everyone, regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
I supported gays, women, and transgenders in the military.
I supported equal and fair taxes for all.
I supported accessible healthcare for all(though not in the form of obamacare).
All I asked in return was my guns to be left alone. And yet all ive done is give and give and give.
Im tired of giving.
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