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Post by 76chevy on Mar 20, 2017 6:25:30 GMT -5
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Ozone?
Mar 20, 2017 6:26:30 GMT -5
Post by 76chevy on Mar 20, 2017 6:26:30 GMT -5
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Mar 23, 2017 10:41:18 GMT -5
Post by 76chevy on Mar 23, 2017 10:41:18 GMT -5
anyone know why ozonics cancelled the money back return policy on their units??
Seems to me if you had that much confidence in them you would keep the policy
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Post by bighosspro on Jun 17, 2017 20:01:42 GMT -5
Ozonics is a great tool. I used it full time last season (hr300 for me and hr200 for camera man) and when you set it up correctly your scent is nearly 100% elimimated. I did a podcast with Buddy Piland from Ozonics last year and in the podcast he shares how to properly set a unit up and how the science of ozone works. You guys should give it a listen if youre curious about ozone or Ozonics. www.thewhitetailfaktor.com/the-field-report/twf-field-report-8-ozonics-101-with-buddy-piland
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Post by duff on Jun 18, 2017 8:04:24 GMT -5
Prob 15 yrs ago I was traveling a lot. Never liked staying in the big hotel chains when a nice small place was available at 1/3rd of the cost. One place in Rockville let guests smoke in the rooms then would put an ozone machine in the room to eliminate the odors for the next guest. It reduced it some but not enough.
If you guys have confidence that is all that matters.
I remember having same discussions few years ago regarding activated carbon suits. Guys that had them they were all in and completely confident. That makes you a better hunter without a doubt.
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Jun 22, 2017 5:48:15 GMT -5
Post by 76chevy on Jun 22, 2017 5:48:15 GMT -5
Ozonics is a great tool. I used it full time last season (hr300 for me and hr200 for camera man) and when you set it up correctly your scent is nearly 100% elimimated. I did a podcast with Buddy Piland from Ozonics last year and in the podcast he shares how to properly set a unit up and how the science of ozone works. You guys should give it a listen if youre curious about ozone or Ozonics. www.thewhitetailfaktor.com/the-field-report/twf-field-report-8-ozonics-101-with-buddy-pilandwhy did they eliminate the money back guarantee??
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Post by 76chevy on Jun 22, 2017 5:50:19 GMT -5
I can confirm this will eliminate odors in your hunting clothing, car, boots, you name it. Put a big box fan behind it and run it for a couple hours..
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Ozone?
Jun 22, 2017 6:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Jun 22, 2017 6:32:39 GMT -5
I can confirm this will eliminate odors in your hunting clothing, car, boots, you name it. Put a big box fan behind it and run it for a couple hours.. How much coin for that unit?
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Jun 22, 2017 7:04:20 GMT -5
Post by 76chevy on Jun 22, 2017 7:04:20 GMT -5
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Jun 22, 2017 12:04:51 GMT -5
Post by tynimiller on Jun 22, 2017 12:04:51 GMT -5
Ozonics is a great tool. I used it full time last season (hr300 for me and hr200 for camera man) and when you set it up correctly your scent is nearly 100% elimimated. I did a podcast with Buddy Piland from Ozonics last year and in the podcast he shares how to properly set a unit up and how the science of ozone works. You guys should give it a listen if youre curious about ozone or Ozonics. www.thewhitetailfaktor.com/the-field-report/twf-field-report-8-ozonics-101-with-buddy-pilandOkay, I'm a believer and not a skeptic of what ozone does when interacting with molecules it comes in contact with. I utilize ozone in my vehicles storage devices and most likely at some point I will even in hunting scenarios "maybe". However, I beg folks to be careful with using terms of "100% eliminated" or "nearly 100% eliminated" UNLESS someone has some serious and deep scientific studies which confirm or deny these claims that are in no way shape or form bias in any way. Our bodies release a TREMENDOUS amount of odors; via sweat, skin and hair fragments, breath, oils...just to name a few. I have yet to read a study done in a controlled setting but exactly as would be experienced up a tree which confirms Ozonics eliminates 100% or even nearly 100% of EVERY kind of odor a hunter emits. I believe this is predominately due to the fact most realize it is a claim which is more speculation than anything and cannot be substantiated. HOWEVER, ozone DOES eliminate or better defined by destroying the molecules, bacteria, and spores that cause any number of various types of odors. One study out of Spain even analyzed the impact Ozone has on floral scent and its impact on pollination as well... www.creaf.uab.es/global-ecology/Pdfs_UEG/2016%20NewPhyt.pdfSo while one most definitely can claim ozone machines lesson and may nearly eliminate scents in a controlled environment...one cannot lay the same claim based upon science to the same up a tree with winds swirling and the hunter having walked in, climbed and touching things while hunting. I do plan on buying an ozonic machine at some point as it is just another thing which would play its part in my scent reduction regime I have....all decreasing the impact my scent has on my hunts.
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Post by swilk on Jun 22, 2017 13:00:02 GMT -5
Prob 15 yrs ago I was traveling a lot. Never liked staying in the big hotel chains when a nice small place was available at 1/3rd of the cost. One place in Rockville let guests smoke in the rooms then would put an ozone machine in the room to eliminate the odors for the next guest. It reduced it some but not enough. If you guys have confidence that is all that matters. I remember having same discussions few years ago regarding activated carbon suits. Guys that had them they were all in and completely confident. That makes you a better hunter without a doubt. Run long enough and it would have eliminated all the smell. Had a fire in 2001 ... fire was limited to a bedroom but hours of smoke filled the home as the fire slowly starved itself of oxygen. Imagine the smoke smell in clothes and furniture. Cleaned and then a couple of days in a ozone room and the smell was completely gone. In a contained area ozone will eliminate all smells.
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Ozone?
Jun 23, 2017 20:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by bighosspro on Jun 23, 2017 20:40:59 GMT -5
Ozonics is a great tool. I used it full time last season (hr300 for me and hr200 for camera man) and when you set it up correctly your scent is nearly 100% elimimated. I did a podcast with Buddy Piland from Ozonics last year and in the podcast he shares how to properly set a unit up and how the science of ozone works. You guys should give it a listen if youre curious about ozone or Ozonics. www.thewhitetailfaktor.com/the-field-report/twf-field-report-8-ozonics-101-with-buddy-pilandOkay, I'm a believer and not a skeptic of what ozone does when interacting with molecules it comes in contact with. I utilize ozone in my vehicles storage devices and most likely at some point I will even in hunting scenarios "maybe". However, I beg folks to be careful with using terms of "100% eliminated" or "nearly 100% eliminated" UNLESS someone has some serious and deep scientific studies which confirm or deny these claims that are in no way shape or form bias in any way. Our bodies release a TREMENDOUS amount of odors; via sweat, skin and hair fragments, breath, oils...just to name a few. I have yet to read a study done in a controlled setting but exactly as would be experienced up a tree which confirms Ozonics eliminates 100% or even nearly 100% of EVERY kind of odor a hunter emits. I believe this is predominately due to the fact most realize it is a claim which is more speculation than anything and cannot be substantiated. HOWEVER, ozone DOES eliminate or better defined by destroying the molecules, bacteria, and spores that cause any number of various types of odors. One study out of Spain even analyzed the impact Ozone has on floral scent and its impact on pollination as well... www.creaf.uab.es/global-ecology/Pdfs_UEG/2016%20NewPhyt.pdfSo while one most definitely can claim ozone machines lesson and may nearly eliminate scents in a controlled environment...one cannot lay the same claim based upon science to the same up a tree with winds swirling and the hunter having walked in, climbed and touching things while hunting. I do plan on buying an ozonic machine at some point as it is just another thing which would play its part in my scent reduction regime I have....all decreasing the impact my scent has on my hunts. It's science ozone elininates odor. If you use the unit correctly it will eliminate 100% of your odor it comes in contact with. You are correct in saying that if the wind is swirling some scent can get thru. If your scent doesnt come in contact with the 03 molecule it cannot eliminate the scent. The podcast I listed earlier has a lot of real life scenarios on how they tested the product. As far as the money back guarantee, I dont know the answer to that. I could find out though if you guys really want to know.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jun 23, 2017 21:17:16 GMT -5
I can confirm this will eliminate odors in your hunting clothing, car, boots, you name it. Put a big box fan behind it and run it for a couple hours.. That come from the same place as Uncle Rico's time machine?
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Jun 23, 2017 23:17:55 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Jun 23, 2017 23:17:55 GMT -5
I'm a skeptic. Eliminate odors or eliminate them to the levels human can smell?
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Post by 76chevy on Jun 24, 2017 6:12:33 GMT -5
I'm a skeptic. Eliminate odors or eliminate them to the levels human can smell? good point. A couple of things I would like to point out. -No way the Ozonics eliminates 100% of human scent. I would need to see published data to prove it eliminates any significant amount in a hunting situation. -The woods is not a 'controlled environment'. I use my real ozone generator (foreverozone.com) to eliminate odors without anyone around. It is incredibly effective at room deodorization, treating boots and hunting clothing in this type of closed environment. The woods is not a controlled environment though. -Ozone is an irritant. I would not want to be breathing this stuff in for 4 minutes (or 4 hours! showering down on you). Some hunting vids have these running a blind right on top of a child. This makes me cringe! The EPA says this about Ozone... How is Ozone Harmful? The same chemical properties that allow high concentrations of ozone to react with organic material outside the body give it the ability to react with similar organic material that makes up the body, and potentially cause harmful health consequences. When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and throat irritation. Ozone may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections. People vary widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy people, as well as those with respiratory difficulty, can experience breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise during exposure to ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful effects can occur following short-term exposure to low levels of ozone, but health effects may become more damaging and recovery less certain at higher levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a, 1996b). Ozone and Your Health (PDF) (2 pp, 2.5 MB, About PDF) Manufacturers and vendors of ozone devices often use misleading terms to describe ozone. Terms such as "energized oxygen" or "pure air" suggest that ozone is a healthy kind of oxygen. Ozone is a toxic gas with vastly different chemical and toxicological properties from oxygen. Several federal agencies have established health standards or recommendations to limit human exposure to ozone. These exposure limits are summarized in Table 1.
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Jun 24, 2017 6:17:44 GMT -5
Post by 76chevy on Jun 24, 2017 6:17:44 GMT -5
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Jun 24, 2017 8:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jun 24, 2017 8:15:42 GMT -5
76chevy
I've read this same thing about ozone and have seen these units being used not only in pop up blinds but in plastic shooting houses. No way am I doing either.
FWIW, I've read a lot of different reports about ozone generators and while I'm sure they will reduce odors in your clothing, I still can't see how it could work very well when you hang it in a tree above your head. Perhaps it does, but am I going to drop several hundred dollars on something else to drag into the woods with me?
Nope....
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