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Post by raymar on Nov 22, 2016 23:42:49 GMT -5
While helping my dad recover his deer tonight I noticed the neighbor had placed a treestand that lottery hangs over on our side of the property line facing a small hollow and hillside. The tree is basically one ft on their side and facing our property. I have had issues with the kids who hunted their with permission in the past but last year there was a blind about ten yds onto their side but closer to the house. I never saw anyone hunting it and even though it clearly was positioned to hunt our woods and field I let it slide. Tonight though it really bugged me. There is plenty of woods behind it and the property line is clearly evident due to an old fence and being logged on their side. I placed a note on the steps explaining it was ethical to hunt our side along with my number and name. While I know I was onot their side to do this I literally could of done it from our side. I would not have such a problem other than the landowners husband who is now deceased made a deal about a stand I placed their many years ago even though it faced our property and was on a tree on our side. I just removed it and used my climber to avoid issues. My question is how do you handle this as it clearly is hunting our property as there was really no shot other than our side.
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 22, 2016 23:44:46 GMT -5
Nothing you can do. He's legal
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 22, 2016 23:46:36 GMT -5
Until they step foot on your property.
Place no trespassing sign right in front of them
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Post by raymar on Nov 23, 2016 0:00:11 GMT -5
I know he is legal but it is just the ethics that really gets to me. Our family has owned that for years and I have never stepped on their property and even contacted them on a deer that died on the line to tell them I would be there to recover. Just frustrating. I'm done for the season but may sit on the line facing them this weekend. I know the law but what gets me is ethics. I fish a lot of tournaments and while I see the same thing happen, I know some are just ignorant of ethics others just cut you off like that to be a jerkbait because they can. Just my rant.
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 23, 2016 0:17:15 GMT -5
I hear you. Have the same problem on my property.
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Post by deadeer on Nov 23, 2016 1:25:58 GMT -5
I like the note, and no trespassing sign. Maybe add you contacted the CO and/or sheriff and will prosecute trespassers, or that you have a camera up to catch in the act. Maybe put up another stand, ground blind, hunter orange hat nearby to fake your presence, a real or fake camera, etc to deter the urge to do the wrong thing. All of this, of course, is after you have made an attempt to peacefully resolve the issue. Lol
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2016 5:53:06 GMT -5
I bet it would nip it in the bud pretty quickly if they shot a deer and you refused to allow them to retrieve it from your property. You could keep it for yourself and say, "Hey, thanks for the deer. You saved me a lot of hours on stand." Lol!
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Post by flinttim on Nov 23, 2016 6:57:32 GMT -5
I'm sort of devious about some things. I'd probably make up some fake trail cams (small appropriate sized boxes) painted gray or even black, glue piece of glass on the front (lens, motion sensor) and wire them to YOUR trees , facing the stand. From a difference they will look somewhat real, enough to make him wonder. But that's how I roll . LOL
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Post by beermaker on Nov 23, 2016 7:02:13 GMT -5
I'll never understand situations like this. I make every effort to get as far away from other hunters and potential territorial disputes as possible. The last thing I want is a flashlight conversation about who should be where on a good morning to hunt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 7:24:25 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Since you are finished hunting, put aluminum foil strips all around the stand on your property. It works great when the sun shines on the strips crackle through the woods. We did this to one of our group buddies on opening day for a get back crank from the previous year. We used to do funny stuff to each other when we were younger.
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Post by duff on Nov 23, 2016 7:28:43 GMT -5
Put up a stand next to theirs rven if you never hunt it.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Nov 23, 2016 7:34:15 GMT -5
Put up a stand next to theirs rven if you never hunt it. That way they can bring a friend!
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Post by onebentarrow on Nov 23, 2016 7:41:59 GMT -5
I had this problem few years back and I rote a note stating that they do not have pirmission to hunt my properity and if they shoot a deer on my side it is considered poaching and is chargable. You could loose your gun,truck,hunting rights and be fined. I took this note and put it in a 1 gal zip lock bag and hung it on the tree.
Never had any problems after that.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2016 9:37:34 GMT -5
I just remembered how a non-hunting buddy of mine handled the same situation about a decade ago when he bought 21 acres. His neighbors had been hunting this property until he bought it. He refused to give them permission, so they hung stands as close to his property line as they could, all facing into his property. He went up there the night before gun season opened and strung up clotheslines with tarps hanging on them. Not to block their shots, but in just a haphazard way to spook deer. He also placed a bunch of small battery-powered radios around the area and turned them on full volume. Lol!
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Post by tynimiller on Nov 23, 2016 9:51:07 GMT -5
Hate hate hate this kind of behavior...but as outlined, no laws are broken by them, yet. I would not have trespassed merely to leave them a note...you are actually the only one confirmed to have broken a law now. Granted I, you and probably anyone reading this post knows are not the one with the issue. First I'd do everything I can to just breach a conversation with the actual hunters, get their number or address and discuss things. Let them know they are 100% legal but if they shoot onto your property charges will be pressed, if they trespass onto your property without asking permission and getting it you will press charges. Tell em good luck and to let you know if they need a hand some time with a recovery. Depending how that goes I then do the following: Personally I make sure the line is posted there asap! Right infront of the stand, and both directions up and down the line from it. I then would also consider a trail camera...if you are done you could use a real one, but personally I'd hang a dummy one (past non-working one or so) facing the stand, they'll notice it and get the message...they are being watched. Granted still they could hunt that stand EVERY day legally...but I would bet they're gonna think very hard about shooting onto your property knowing they're being watched. *If worried they might inspect the camera or take it, put batteries and a cheap sd card in it so it feels heavy and like it works. Also sharpie in a # inside it incase they do take it that you can describe and report (good practice anyways). Then if truly worried, hang a real camera aimed down and at it from like 15 feet up that you need a ladder to check, sadly we've had to do this before...sucks but worth it. NO MORE ISSUES Finally one tactic a buddy used of mine to "battle" this is put a ground blind up right on your side....they'll never know if someone is in it or not unless of course they trespass.
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Post by jjas on Nov 23, 2016 9:53:27 GMT -5
In the end, the question(s) boil down to this...
Have they broken any laws?
Have they trespassed on your land?
Do you want the ability to track deer on their land if you shoot one that runs onto theirs?
Are you willing to reciprocate if they ask you for the same permission?
If they haven't broken any laws (and you want access to recover deer on their property in the future), I think I would just let it slide until there is a reason not to.
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Post by swilk on Nov 23, 2016 10:05:15 GMT -5
In the end, the question(s) boil down to this... Have they broken any laws? Have they trespassed on your land? Do you want the ability to track deer on their land if you shoot one that runs onto theirs? Are you willing to reciprocate if they ask you for the same permission? If they haven't broken any laws (and you want access to recover deer on their property in the future), I think I would just let it slide until there is a reason not to. Best advice but man sometimes its hard to follow ....
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 23, 2016 10:20:41 GMT -5
Do you have any kind of relationship with the adjoining property owner??? A simple conversation might just nip it in bud before feelings start getting hurt and both end up losing IMO.
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Post by jjas on Nov 23, 2016 10:22:41 GMT -5
In the end, the question(s) boil down to this... Have they broken any laws? Have they trespassed on your land? Do you want the ability to track deer on their land if you shoot one that runs onto theirs? Are you willing to reciprocate if they ask you for the same permission? If they haven't broken any laws (and you want access to recover deer on their property in the future), I think I would just let it slide until there is a reason not to. Best advice but man sometimes its hard to follow .... 100% agree as it's tough to not try to "take care" of things immediately. For me, I've found that when I think it over, a better solution presents itself.....
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Post by swilk on Nov 23, 2016 10:24:27 GMT -5
Ive owned my property long enough to know that good relationships with neighboring owners are very, very important. One might say they are among the most important.
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