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Post by parrothead on Nov 9, 2016 6:31:22 GMT -5
Sorry for you loss.
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Post by outdoorjoe on Nov 9, 2016 9:44:01 GMT -5
Thank you all for your prayers. I slept maybe 1 hour, but something happened. I went to bed embracing the pain, but woke up in total peace. It's so very strange. I believe that it's best to put it in his words; it's a peace that passes all understanding. I didn't pray asking, "Why?" I did pray for understanding. I think it's the greatest of gifts. While I do not understand, somehow I do not need to. I feel nothing but peace. Please pray for my wife. There's nothing like the pain a mother feels from the loss of a child. We men can think we understand and can relate, but we really don't have a clue. I'm use to being clueless. Thank you all again! Did u make it iut to hunt this morning Dennis?
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Post by outdoorjoe on Nov 9, 2016 9:44:02 GMT -5
Thank you all for your prayers. I slept maybe 1 hour, but something happened. I went to bed embracing the pain, but woke up in total peace. It's so very strange. I believe that it's best to put it in his words; it's a peace that passes all understanding. I didn't pray asking, "Why?" I did pray for understanding. I think it's the greatest of gifts. While I do not understand, somehow I do not need to. I feel nothing but peace. Please pray for my wife. There's nothing like the pain a mother feels from the loss of a child. We men can think we understand and can relate, but we really don't have a clue. I'm use to being clueless. Thank you all again! Did u make it iut to hunt this morning Dennis?
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Nov 9, 2016 11:17:34 GMT -5
Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Nov 9, 2016 11:17:34 GMT -5
Thank you all for your prayers. I slept maybe 1 hour, but something happened. I went to bed embracing the pain, but woke up in total peace. It's so very strange. I believe that it's best to put it in his words; it's a peace that passes all understanding. I didn't pray asking, "Why?" I did pray for understanding. I think it's the greatest of gifts. While I do not understand, somehow I do not need to. I feel nothing but peace. Please pray for my wife. There's nothing like the pain a mother feels from the loss of a child. We men can think we understand and can relate, but we really don't have a clue. I'm use to being clueless. Thank you all again! Did u make it iut to hunt this morning Dennis? I did Joe. It was wonderful to sit in the woods alone with the Lord. I miss my little buddy badly, but I am a peace with it. I even still ache inside, but all is well with my soul. I did get to see the buck that was running with the buck Trey shot. He was about 150yds away when I saw him, and grunted him closer. He came within 50yds, but he was NOT coming to my side where his buddy got shot. I had fun watching him. I took Trey's bow. It's much smaller and lighter then mine. I wouldn't have shot little ugly, but I did want a better look.
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Post by poc on Nov 9, 2016 12:20:06 GMT -5
Very sorry to hear this. You seem to be handling it well. Prayers for you and your family.
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Post by duff on Nov 9, 2016 15:11:05 GMT -5
Wow. I can not even put my thoughts into words reading this. Addiction is a hard thing. I pray for your family. Morn his death and celebrate his life and your great memories of him.
I always liked getting into my stand early on a clear morning. Gives me time to appreciate the things in life that I love and always ended up with thoughts of friends and family that I was no longer able to see or talk to.
Hang in there and best of luck
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Post by bartiks on Nov 9, 2016 18:34:56 GMT -5
My dad told me something when I was younger that still has an eerie ring to it. He told me one day: "If, Dog, Rabbit" I asked him what he meant by it and he said "If the dog chased the rabbit what would happen?" I told him the dog would get the rabbit, he said "How do you know". Made me stop and put a new spin on my rationale.
I assure you there is nothing more you could of done to prevent this, as much as you can prevent the sun from rising in the morning. There is always the If and why that will never be answered, just take solace in knowing that you did all you could do and that he enjoyed the time he spent with you as much as you enjoyed spending it with him.
Although we have never met or spoke outside of this forum know that I and the rest of us on here hurt and ache whenever you hurt and ache. Anything you need don't hesitate.
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Post by salt on Nov 9, 2016 19:25:34 GMT -5
Every 28 minutes, a loved one dies in the USA as a result of an opioid overdose. This statistic has quadrupled since 2000.
Folks, as long as we a society continue to seek pain meds for a stubbed toe, as long as doctors have a customer satisfaction score attached to their practice, as long as we treat addicts the same as dealers, this problem will only continue to worsen.
I don't know the solution to this epidemic. What I do know is that our prisons and jails are full, our community corrections and probation agencies are at record numbers. Our Department of Child Services has more cases than ever. Our addiction counseling agencies have 6 week waits to start services. In house rehabs/detox centers are almost extinct.
I pray that we can find a solution and start saving lives instead of losing them.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Nov 9, 2016 19:40:06 GMT -5
It's cheap too, cheap and deadly is a bad combination.
I know there must be a cycle one goes through when experiencing a loss. As I've said, I didn't know I could hurt anymore; it's been so long and really thought those nerve endings were seared.
Even though I am at peace with the loss, I feel very emotional and vulnerable. I do not like this feeling; it's worse than the pain.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 9, 2016 20:30:08 GMT -5
Every 28 minutes, a loved one dies in the USA as a result of an opioid overdose. This statistic has quadrupled since 2000. Folks, as long as we a society continue to seek pain meds for a stubbed toe, as long as doctors have a customer satisfaction score attached to their practice, as long as we treat addicts the same as dealers, this problem will only continue to worsen. I don't know the solution to this epidemic. What I do know is that our prisons and jails are full, our community corrections and probation agencies are at record numbers. Our Department of Child Services has more cases than ever. Our addiction counseling agencies have 6 week waits to start services. In house rehabs/detox centers are almost extinct. I pray that we can find a solution and start saving lives instead of losing them. well said. Big pharma doesn't care if your addicted and prefers it's yours they are addicted to. Herion is cheap and has a high unlike anything. What makes it so deadly is the tolerance you gain and the threshold between high enough and dead is very thin.
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Post by jackryan on Nov 9, 2016 21:18:04 GMT -5
Every 28 minutes, a loved one dies in the USA as a result of an opioid overdose. This statistic has quadrupled since 2000. Folks, as long as we a society continue to seek pain meds for a stubbed toe, as long as doctors have a customer satisfaction score attached to their practice, as long as we treat addicts the same as dealers, this problem will only continue to worsen. I don't know the solution to this epidemic. What I do know is that our prisons and jails are full, our community corrections and probation agencies are at record numbers. Our Department of Child Services has more cases than ever. Our addiction counseling agencies have 6 week waits to start services. In house rehabs/detox centers are almost extinct. I pray that we can find a solution and start saving lives instead of losing them. Don't do drugs. It's that simple.
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Post by GS1 on Nov 9, 2016 22:12:15 GMT -5
Sorry to hear Dennis.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 10, 2016 7:05:17 GMT -5
Every 28 minutes, a loved one dies in the USA as a result of an opioid overdose. This statistic has quadrupled since 2000. Folks, as long as we a society continue to seek pain meds for a stubbed toe, as long as doctors have a customer satisfaction score attached to their practice, as long as we treat addicts the same as dealers, this problem will only continue to worsen. I don't know the solution to this epidemic. What I do know is that our prisons and jails are full, our community corrections and probation agencies are at record numbers. Our Department of Child Services has more cases than ever. Our addiction counseling agencies have 6 week waits to start services. In house rehabs/detox centers are almost extinct. I pray that we can find a solution and start saving lives instead of losing them. well said. Big pharma doesn't care if your addicted and prefers it's yours they are addicted to. Herion is cheap and has a high unlike anything. What makes it so deadly is the tolerance you gain and the threshold between high enough and dead is very thin. This....and since the US led invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001, the Golden Crescent opium trade has soared.
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Post by benj on Nov 10, 2016 9:35:01 GMT -5
That's a hard loss for sure, I can only imagine. I'll pray for your wife and you too, because it can only help right? I'm glad to hear you got back out in the woods and are feeling more at peace.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Nov 10, 2016 9:39:02 GMT -5
Every 28 minutes, a loved one dies in the USA as a result of an opioid overdose. This statistic has quadrupled since 2000. Folks, as long as we a society continue to seek pain meds for a stubbed toe, as long as doctors have a customer satisfaction score attached to their practice, as long as we treat addicts the same as dealers, this problem will only continue to worsen. I don't know the solution to this epidemic. What I do know is that our prisons and jails are full, our community corrections and probation agencies are at record numbers. Our Department of Child Services has more cases than ever. Our addiction counseling agencies have 6 week waits to start services. In house rehabs/detox centers are almost extinct. I pray that we can find a solution and start saving lives instead of losing them. Don't do drugs. It's that simple. It sure does sound simple Jack. I take about 20 drugs a day. I'd die sooner if I didn't take them. Fortunately, none of them are pain pills. I have a low tolerance to pain, so if I had pain, I'd sure want them. After one of my surgeries, they were giving me dilaudid . I liked it, because it immediately took away my pain. I've been told that one's body will create pain to get the relief that it's addicted to. It's really not so easy. It's more like, "But for the Grace of God, there I go." I was 40 years old and had never known depression, so of course I did not understand it at all. My answer to those depressed was, "Well, just get over it." I didn't have a clue until I fell into the clutches of the bottomless pit of hopeless doom. Sure it took a monumental event for me to fall, but like they say, "The bigger the tree, the harder it falls." Many have never fallen, and hopefully never will. I learned a lot. I learned that I didn't have a clue to what I hadn't experienced. It all starts somewhere whatever the issue, and this is where focus is needed.
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Post by salt on Nov 10, 2016 9:42:20 GMT -5
Don't do drugs. It's that simple. It sure does sound simple Jack. I take about 20 drugs a day. I'd die sooner if I didn't take them. Fortunately, none of them are pain pills. I have a low tolerance to pain, so if I had pain, I'd sure want them. After one of my surgeries, they were giving me dilaudid . I liked it, because it immediately took away my pain. I've been told that one's body will create pain to get the relief that it's addicted to. It's really not so easy. It's more like, "But for the Grace of God, there I go." I was 40 years old and had never known depression, so of course I did not understand it at all. My answer to those depressed was, "Well, just get over it." I didn't have a clue until I fell into the clutches of the bottomless pit of hopeless doom. Sure it took a monumental event for me to fall, but like they say, "The bigger the tree, the harder it falls." Many have never fallen, and hopefully never will. I learned a lot. I learned that I didn't have a clue to what I hadn't experienced. It all starts somewhere whatever the issue, and this is where focus is needed. Great response Dennis. If only it was that simple!
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Post by salt on Nov 10, 2016 9:48:18 GMT -5
well said. Big pharma doesn't care if your addicted and prefers it's yours they are addicted to. Herion is cheap and has a high unlike anything. What makes it so deadly is the tolerance you gain and the threshold between high enough and dead is very thin. This....and since the US led invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001, the Golden Crescent opium trade has soared. Nearly all the heroin in the US is coming to us through the Mexican border.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 10, 2016 10:29:08 GMT -5
From via Afghanistan.....
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Nov 10, 2016 10:31:51 GMT -5
I dont want you to take this the wrong way, as I know how it will sound. You didnt fail him. He failed you. Stay strong Medic, I appreciate your comment, and have not ignored it. I did not want to take it wrong, so I thought long about it to give a slow response. It's easy for one to be defensive about loved ones, especially if the protective nature runs thick through the veins. I know that you're trying to take the guilt from me as this will ease my pain. I have what I often call a mean dog. In reality, he is as good as he knows how to be. He is just a big aggressive alpha male. I use to be like him. ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) Sad, but true. To sell or work and not get paid is painful and breeds anger and all sorts of unhealthy emotions. Therefore, I have learned to give freely as has been given to me. No one owes me anything. I do not do quid pro quo; I expect nothing in return. Consequently, I have little, but will easily give it away as I see a greater need. Trey owed me nothing for what he got from me as many others. I gave him much more than the things my money bought; I gave him something that no one else ever had. I think he just needed a lot more of it, years worth. As is said, "It's easier to blow out a match than to put out a forest fire." Not only was I once like an alpha male, seemingly mean, but really lacking compassion and understanding, I also really thought I had it ALL figured out. I guess I had figured out some of what I had experienced at the time. Even though the process had started long before my coded heart attack, I now realize how little I know about it all. Even though some insist on calling me Dennis out of affection or personal touch, I became Jon Snow. We all know, "You know NOTHING Jon Snow!" ...and I embrace it.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 10, 2016 10:50:39 GMT -5
I really don't believe Jack is talking LEGAL drugs!
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