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Post by gilder on Apr 14, 2017 20:18:23 GMT -5
Received Rosseyanka persimmon tree today from nursery in Florida, here is from their site:
Rosseyanka is a truly amazing blend between Asian and American Persimmons. Combining traits of both fruits, now the taste of Kaki persimmons can be enjoyed in the North. More of the American parent is evident in leaf and tree form. Fruit tastes like a blend of soft Asian persimmon and ripe native persimmon. Fruits are seedless! The candy like orange fruit has a rich flavor enjoyed into the winter. Good orange leaf color in the fall. Fruit size is larger than native persimmon, approximately 2-3 inches. Must be soft to eat. Fruits will "wrinkle" when ripe. Height 15'-20'. We graft the Rosseyanka onto native American persimmon root stock. USDA ZONES: Zone 5, Zone 6, Zone 7, & Zone 8.
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Post by iceman10 on May 28, 2017 16:02:35 GMT -5
I have some coming out the top of my 6' plantra tree tubes , these were all grown from seed . The trees are 3 yrs old . I shocked even my self on this project 😊  |
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Post by swetz on May 28, 2017 17:26:02 GMT -5
I have about 25 sprouting up.  |
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Post by duff on May 28, 2017 18:44:58 GMT -5
I need to do that with my ginseng!
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Post by swetz on May 28, 2017 21:32:04 GMT -5
I have some coming out the top of my 6' plantra tree tubes , these were all grown from seed . The trees are 3 yrs old . I shocked even my self on this project 😊 When did you plant them? |
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Post by swetz on May 28, 2017 21:43:31 GMT -5
To clarify, what time of year is what I meant. Trying to figure out when to plant mine, especially since I won't be able to keep a close eye on them after that.
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Post by iceman10 on May 28, 2017 21:54:58 GMT -5
I nursed them thru summer in pots just like you got & put them in the ground mid September. They have been on their own ever since . When I put them in the ground I left them in the peat pots .
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Post by swetz on Jun 20, 2017 20:24:45 GMT -5
So this is going pretty well. I got quite a few seedlings. If I had to do it again, I'd probably wait a little longer before planting the seeds so I'd have a better guess which were going to germinate. I had a few pots with 4 or 5 seedlings coming up that I tried to split. Seems a fair number die off of that. My theory is it has to do with how much it disturbs the roots. So I probably won't do that anymore. Here's a few pics. I had to put them in some empty planters my wife had sitting on the deck to keep the chipmunks out of it.   |
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Post by iceman10 on Jun 21, 2017 17:54:32 GMT -5
Looking good , I ordered my tree tubes from plantra today .
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Post by swetz on Jun 22, 2017 7:26:41 GMT -5
Looking good , I ordered my tree tubes from plantra today . I'm going to use those too. I'm waiting a bit though so I have a better estimate of how many I need. |
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Post by moose1am on Jun 23, 2017 11:54:45 GMT -5
Some seeods need to pass through the guts of animals and get digested and pass out of the animal before they will germinate well. The acid in a deer's or raccoons stomach help the seeds germinate. I learned this in my wildlife biology class at Purdue. I also took some advanced biology classes in HS and we had to test seeds germination rates. We counted all the seeds and planted them in wet paper towels and kept watch during the semester to see which one's germinated under different light conditions. Some seeds were first soaked in an acid solution before being planted so as to help the seeds split through the hard shells. This makes sense to me as why else would persimmons be so tasty? They are designed to be eaten and most animals will eat the fruit seeds and all. I see persimmon seeds in coyote or raccoon scat all the time.
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Post by swetz on Jun 23, 2017 22:33:59 GMT -5
Some seeods need to pass through the guts of animals and get digested and pass out of the animal before they will germinate well. The acid in a deer's or raccoons stomach help the seeds germinate. I learned this in my wildlife biology class at Purdue. I also took some advanced biology classes in HS and we had to test seeds germination rates. We counted all the seeds and planted them in wet paper towels and kept watch during the semester to see which one's germinated under different light conditions. Some seeds were first soaked in an acid solution before being planted so as to help the seeds split through the hard shells. This makes sense to me as why else would persimmons be so tasty? They are designed to be eaten and most animals will eat the fruit seeds and all. I see persimmon seeds in coyote or raccoon scat all the time. So you're saying I should eat them before planting next time?  |
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Post by moose1am on Jun 25, 2017 17:37:46 GMT -5
I had a hell of a post to respond to this and it as a long story. But some how I pushed two wrong buttons at the same time and the entire post vanished. I was booted off Edge too. I ended up back at the desktop. That happens to me a lot these days. Either I hit the secrete Microsoft two key combination to log out of Microsoft Edge or I've got a hacker inside my damn computer. And the post was almost finished too.
Bottom line is don't eat the seeds guys. Let the other dumb animals do that. Raccoons and Deer will eat the persimmons seed and all.
I remember finding scat on the road and didn't recognize the seed in the scat. Just recognized some hair or fur in the scat that must have been rabbit or vole fur. I've seen coyotes eating rabbits and voles (mice). Never saw a raccoon eating a rabbit but that doesn't mean that they can't or won't eat rabbits. It just means that I've never seen them do that yet. But the seeds in the scat sure look like the persimmon seeds in the picture above.
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Post by iceman10 on Jul 23, 2017 18:04:59 GMT -5
 This years batch is coming along good , looking forward to make a new orchard patch for bow hunting |
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Post by throbak on Jul 23, 2017 19:33:11 GMT -5
Iceman theme the biggest leafed Persimmon I've ever seen look like paw paws
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Post by iceman10 on Jul 23, 2017 19:41:13 GMT -5
I've never tried paw paws , do deer like them ? I have a picture of one persimmon seed that isn't leafing .  |
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 23, 2017 20:44:10 GMT -5
I think everything likes pawpaws.
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Post by swetz on Jul 23, 2017 21:28:20 GMT -5
I'll have to figure out a new photo sharing option now that my photobucket isn't an option. I've got a ton of seedlings. I even had to build something to set them on.
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Post by swetz on Aug 8, 2017 21:40:55 GMT -5
Bad turn on mine in the past couple days. Almost all of them are dead or dying as of this afternoon.
Some were turning kind of yellow and losing leaves. The wife suggested I was over watering which I thought could be true since I was watering pretty much every day.
So I didn't water on the cooler days we had and was doing every other day. Then most wilted on a warmer day so I watered them that evening and I don't know if it was too little too late or what, but almost all of them are dead now.
I still have some that look good, but I guess we'll see what I can keep alive for about another month. I'm thinking next time, I may just buy seedlings from the DNR.
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Post by parrothead on Aug 9, 2017 12:05:10 GMT -5
The DNR ones I got look really good. I have found only a few dead out of the 100 I planted of course some I couldn't remember where I planted them. The real test will be to see what comes back next year. Going to plant more next year.
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