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Post by swetz on Oct 5, 2016 22:11:55 GMT -5
So I've got a lot of persimmon seeds after harvesting some from my place. I was wanting to germinate some seeds and plant some trees around my place for additional mast for the deer.
I had read on here a while back about someone having good success with growing their own persimmons, but despite my best efforts with the search function, I can't find the discussion.
I've already cleaned the flesh off the seeds and let them dry for 2 days. I was going to plant them outdide in a container with a screen over them as I understand they need the cold to germinate and you need to keep critters from getting at them.
I figured if anything came up in the spring, I'd plant them around my place in groups with tree tubes, but that's just me making it up as I go along.
If anyone has any advice on the subject, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks.
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Post by duff on Oct 6, 2016 3:59:43 GMT -5
I never have to worry about seedlings. They pop up all over. If you have trees that produce fruit I am sure they are sprouting already too.
When ground is moist try relocating the small trees, smaller the better. They have a heck of a tap root.
Otherwise I would guess your way would work too. Good luck
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Post by dadfsr on Oct 6, 2016 5:26:41 GMT -5
Once again Mother Nature seems to have no problem making these trees to sprout all over where ever there is already a persimmon tree however I've never had a lot of luck trying to grow them from seed in containers. Yes they do need a long stratification (cold temp)period and someplace I also read that the seeds also need some scarification (thinning of the seed hull). My wife has been saving the seeds off the Prok persimmon in our yard-not sure if these are viable or not but I'll probably put them all one of the big 25 gal planting pots I have from trees that have been bought, leave them on the back deck over the winter and see what, if anything, comes up next year. They can be very difficult to transplant, like Duff said they first put out a tap root when sprouting that apparently doesn't like to be disturbed.
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Post by salt on Oct 6, 2016 6:13:50 GMT -5
Put the seeds in a damp paper towel and in then a zip lock bag. Place the bag in your fridge for the winter. Pull them out in the spring and plant in potting soil. They will sprout in 2-3 weeks.
I was able to get around 25 to sprout 2 years ago.
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Post by iceman10 on Oct 6, 2016 15:25:30 GMT -5
Put the seeds in a damp paper towel and in then a zip lock bag. Place the bag in your fridge for the winter. Pull them out in the spring and plant in potting soil. They will sprout in 2-3 weeks. I was able to get around 25 to sprout 2 years ago. How are they doing Salt ? |
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Post by swetz on Oct 10, 2016 20:25:37 GMT -5
Well, gonna give it a go. Thanks for the advice all.  |
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Post by iceman10 on Oct 11, 2016 5:53:20 GMT -5
When I pulled mine from the refrigerator I put the seeds in a starter rack than after they got going I transferred them to a 4" peat pot . I watered my for a whole summer and purchased tree tubes to protect them . I strongly recommend the tubes to help them . I planted 85 all from seed
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Post by iceman10 on Oct 11, 2016 5:55:59 GMT -5
Here is a picture , this is the third fall they have been in the ground . The tree tube is 6' .  |
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Post by steiny on Oct 11, 2016 8:32:39 GMT -5
I had limited success. Got them going real good, then a hard freeze killed them all. It may be a waste of time trying to get Persimmons going in northern Indiana, but I'm going to give it another try for fun. Here is what I did: * Harvested the fruit from trees in southern, IL and cleaned them just like those in your photo. * Put them in a ziplock bag of potting soil and sand mixture, then stuck in the refrigerator. * Pulled them out in the spring at garden planting time and planted rows on them in garden. * They sprouted and got to about 12" first season, then were about 24" and thick as heavy pencils by second season, would be ready to transplant in spring. Unfortunately, we had a hard winter and they all froze and died  |
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Post by salt on Oct 11, 2016 8:41:14 GMT -5
I had limited success. Got them going real good, then a hard freeze killed them all. It may be a waste of time trying to get Persimmons going in northern Indiana, but I'm going to give it another try for fun. Here is what I did: * Harvested the fruit from trees in southern, IL and cleaned them just like those in your photo. * Put them in a ziplock bag of potting soil and sand mixture, then stuck in the refrigerator. * Pulled them out in the spring at garden planting time and planted rows on them in garden. * They sprouted and got to about 12" first season, then were about 24" and thick as heavy pencils by second season, would be ready to transplant in spring. Unfortunately, we had a hard winter and they all froze and died This is what happened to me too. Most of mine didn't make it through the first winter. I have a couple in the ground. I hope they make it. |
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Post by throbak on Oct 11, 2016 9:39:27 GMT -5
My brother lives in Albion He got seedlings from State Nursery They are producing now Took about 7 yrs I think he said there doing well there
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Post by parrothead on Oct 12, 2016 7:05:18 GMT -5
My trees are done for the year. I ended up with 410 bags of pulp this year. Mine are seedless ones. My uncle grafted them together many years ago. He has since passed. I would of loved to had him teach me how to do that.
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Post by bartiks on Oct 19, 2016 4:26:39 GMT -5
I've located a wild one growing not far from a ground blind on my property, if everything goes well and they spread like everyone has suggested I think here in a couple of years I should be ok. I planted one about 3 years ago and I'm not for sure what was in the soil that the tree liked but it shot up like a rocket. I think it grew to around 15 feet, I didn't do anything to it. Sadly I had to get a new septic system this year and it had to go.
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Post by Blackstick on Apr 6, 2017 15:10:31 GMT -5
That's good news throbak. I did just the same last year about 1/2 mile south of the jail. Not sure how many made it through our "not too bad" winter. Fingers crossed.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 7, 2017 8:07:52 GMT -5
I planted 200 this spring. I hope 20% make it and I will be happy. Got them from nursery for 34 bucks per 100.
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Post by popcornridgevevay on Apr 8, 2017 5:26:37 GMT -5
I just bought 100 persimmon trees from the INDNR down at Vallonia Indiana. Trees are 3 years old plus only cost around $20 for 100 trees , trees looks great
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Post by swetz on Apr 8, 2017 11:28:48 GMT -5
I just checked the seeds I put in the shed over the winter and it doesn't look like any germinated so so much for that.
I'll have to look into buying some next time.
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Post by iceman10 on Apr 8, 2017 15:25:35 GMT -5
Swetz get a few jiffy peat pots & put a few in it & keep me moist not wet , they take forever to germinate & show signs of life . The weather has been so crazy I haven't taken mine out of fridge yet to plant . I highly recommend tree tubes once you put them in the ground .
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Post by swetz on Apr 8, 2017 16:59:41 GMT -5
Swetz get a few jiffy peat pots & put a few in it & keep me moist not wet , they take forever to germinate & show signs of life . The weather has been so crazy I haven't taken mine out of fridge yet to plant . I highly recommend tree tubes once you put them in the ground . I'll give it a whirl. Thanks. |
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Post by parrothead on Apr 10, 2017 6:08:00 GMT -5
Dang Popcorn you must know someone there. Mine were around 34 from there.
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