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Post by dadfsr on Jul 8, 2016 10:40:51 GMT -5
What's everyone's thoughts on these? She's a Paramedic and is starting to feel like maybe she should be a little more self reliant for protection.....
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 8, 2016 11:09:58 GMT -5
See if she can find one to try. Like SAO autos I'm getting to the point where I would prefer to see only experienced shooters carry a striker fired weapon. You need to be especially careful reholstering them. With the hammer fired guns you can put your thumb on it and have some kind of an indication there is a problem. They make this piece that replace the plate on the back of the Glock slide (not sure it has hit the market yet) that is hinged at the top and is spring loaded if you push that plate in the gun will not fire; very useful for helping to prevent a ND when reholstering. If I carried a Glock I would put one on it (assuming it's out).
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Post by featherduster on Jul 8, 2016 11:47:26 GMT -5
First she needs to find out if her employer will allow her to carry a weapon on duty.
Second of make sure she has a permit to carry a weapon.
And last but not least she will need training with that weapon, semiautomatic handguns look cool but what happens when there is a failure to fire will she know how to clear it.
In my opinion the best weapon for beginners as well as most women is a good old fashion revolver one made out of stainless and a very well made and very well fitting holster.
Some police officers might not feel comfortable with a Paramedic being armed because they might be afraid the she can be disarmed by her patient.
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Post by dadfsr on Jul 8, 2016 13:44:45 GMT -5
Guess I could have given a few more details on her-there's been a couple of years that she was the soul venison provider for our freezer along with 10 years of shooting sports in 4-H-a couple of those years going to Nationals with the 4-H team. Oh yeah-I also got her out to Whittington Center for the kids camp a couple of years when she was a newbie teen  She's NOT a dainty little thing and can very well hold her own with all of the guys she works with on the ambulance service...and definitely not afraid of guns. She has done some practice with this gun since the people she works with (and her) all have carry permits and love to go out target shooting....that's where she was able to use this gun and found that it felt good and shot good in her hand. I'm more of a long gun person so am not that well versed in pistols for self defense, which why I asked you all what your thoughts were. |
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Post by jjas on Jul 8, 2016 14:11:26 GMT -5
First she needs to find out if her employer will allow her to carry a weapon on duty. Second of make sure she has a permit to carry a weapon. And last but not least she will need training with that weapon, semiautomatic handguns look cool but what happens when there is a failure to fire will she know how to clear it. In my opinion the best weapon for beginners as well as most women is a good old fashion revolver one made out of stainless and a very well made and very well fitting holster. Some police officers might not feel comfortable with a Paramedic being armed because they might be afraid the she can be disarmed by her patient. I think you've made several very good points. Lots to think about and work through. |
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Post by medic22 on Jul 8, 2016 14:12:04 GMT -5
Well, as a Paramedic, let me offer some thoughts on this.
Obviously her employer will more than likely frown upon this. Then there are considerations as to the places she goes. As a paramedic I have responded to schools, jails, courthouse, and federal buildings. All of these being places she cannot legally carry. Also, depending on the type of service, if she does transfers into the state of Illinois, she will also be violating their laws.
Now, all of that said, the cost benefit decision is hers to make. I may or may not have carried at one point when I worked in a bigger city. Now that I have moved up to county life, I dont feel like I HAVE to carry.
I do however carry multiple knives and I have a plate Carrier with AR500 rated to multiple 308 hits. I dont always wear it, but ive become accustomed to recognizing those calls that "just dont seem right".
Now im sure someone has told her this, but she is eligible for blue label pricing. If she decides on the G43, have her call Kiesler police supply and order one. I just bought one for my mom and it was $358 sans shipping and transfer. If you live close to. Evansville, Lawman tactical will drive up there and pick it up (save $20 shipping) and the transfer is $10.
Or if she is closer to jeffersonville she can go pick it up.
ETA: im sure there is a gun shop close to you that offers blue label pricing. Ive just found that it is easier to call Keisler's since they do not deal to the public.
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Post by dadfsr on Jul 8, 2016 14:38:28 GMT -5
Medic22-Thanks for the input. I'm sure that they are probably not allowed to carry while on duty-that being said she is single, lives by herself and the ambulance service is only a 15 min life flight from Christ Memorial in Chicago....'nuf said on that!
She and I are both less than an hour's drive from Jerry's Gunshop in Remington (in opposite directions though) so that's probably where we'll go since sevral of the local Boy Scout NRA Instructor friends I know have also done a lot of favorable there.
I was more just looking for input on the 43-good, bad or indifferent....and if not good, then what else to look at in a similar size and price range.
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Post by medic22 on Jul 8, 2016 14:54:32 GMT -5
Of all the similar sized 9mm and 380's it was easiest for my mom to work the slide. She shot it the best of everything else as well.
I like it, but overall I would call myself a glock guy so my opinion is biased. I would own one myself but 9mm is not a round a prefer or even stock
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Post by featherduster on Jul 8, 2016 15:07:09 GMT -5
I am sure she is aware that Indiana handgun permits are not honored in Illinois even if your retired LEO.
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Post by wesb81219 on Jul 8, 2016 15:48:48 GMT -5
I shot one last wknd really liked it and it fit right in my pocket. In my opinion it is a good gun for a woman to Carry.
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Post by bullseye69 on Jul 8, 2016 17:24:20 GMT -5
See if she can find one to try. Like SAO autos I'm getting to the point where I would prefer to see only experienced shooters carry a striker fired weapon. You need to be especially careful reholstering them. With the hammer fired guns you can put your thumb on it and have some kind of an indication there is a problem. They make this piece that replace the plate on the back of the Glock slide (not sure it has hit the market yet) that is hinged at the top and is spring loaded if you push that plate in the gun will not fire; very useful for helping to prevent a ND when reholstering. If I carried a Glock I would put one on it (assuming it's out). I have been shooting glocks in IDPA for 15 years and never heard of a glock going off while someone was holstering it. How can this happen? Please explain. |
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Post by bullseye69 on Jul 8, 2016 17:26:14 GMT -5
BTW I want a Glock 43 to replace my AMT 380 backup.
I shot one last weekend and it shoots nice. Way lighter than my AMT 380.
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Post by medic22 on Jul 8, 2016 17:58:15 GMT -5
See if she can find one to try. Like SAO autos I'm getting to the point where I would prefer to see only experienced shooters carry a striker fired weapon. You need to be especially careful reholstering them. With the hammer fired guns you can put your thumb on it and have some kind of an indication there is a problem. They make this piece that replace the plate on the back of the Glock slide (not sure it has hit the market yet) that is hinged at the top and is spring loaded if you push that plate in the gun will not fire; very useful for helping to prevent a ND when reholstering. If I carried a Glock I would put one on it (assuming it's out). I have been shooting glocks in IDPA for 15 years and never heard of a glock going off while someone was holstering it. How can this happen? Please explain. There have been stories of poorly made kydex holsters, or old leather IWB holsters catching the trigger and causing a ND. Those stories are rarer than exploding 1911 stories |
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 8, 2016 18:13:10 GMT -5
Not stories, there are pictures out there; there was also a LEO who had a draw string on his coat get caught in the trigger housing and caused a ND while reholstering. It has happened more than once before, it will happen again. One of the shooting schools had a a student carrying a striker fired gun AIWB and he had a ND reholstering a striker fired gun; the bullet ended up hitting his femoral artery. That one should not be too hard to google and find
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Post by bullseye69 on Jul 8, 2016 18:19:11 GMT -5
Ok got ya, the trigger was activated by something.
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Post by HighCotton on Jul 8, 2016 18:56:38 GMT -5
Quick story here as to what turned me on to one of my favorite carrys...the Ruger LC9S which I ended up getting. It started with a shop near you, Applied Ballistics. I heard about them and stopped in to check them out. It happened that they had the Ruger as one of the handgun rentals so I popped some rounds at their range. Just a thought that might work for you and her.
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Post by parson on Jul 9, 2016 13:11:27 GMT -5
Friend of mine has a Glock 43.He purchased it about the same time that I bought a S&W Shield 9mm. He likes his Glock, while I prefer my Shield. Very similar guns, but I saved a few bucks by going with the S&W.
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Post by dadfsr on Jul 9, 2016 22:34:42 GMT -5
Friend of mine has a Glock 43.He purchased it about the same time that I bought a S&W Shield 9mm. He likes his Glock, while I prefer my Shield. Very similar guns, but I saved a few bucks by going with the S&W. Interesting!! ...and a little sense of deja vu because I just got off the phone from talking to her about the G43 and she said that her boss had told her she might want to check out the Shield also. However she's kind of like me -stubborn and goes with first instincts So I'm pretty sure that she'll be going with the Glock. Medic22-sent you a PM |
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Post by HighCotton on Jul 10, 2016 8:18:49 GMT -5
Hey Doug...after my outing with some fellow hunters in Martinsville yesterday I have a recommendation:
SHE SHOULD GO WITH THE GLOCK 43!
Ok, maybe a little strong there but here is my reasoning.
If I understand correctly, she's shot it and she likes it!
Next:
Out of our group we had 4 similar 9mm handguns. My Ruger LC9S, a Glock 43, an S&W Shield, and a Kahr CM9. Maybe not the range of all comparables but a pretty good assortment IMO.
Some comments heard around the smoke for you to ponder:
Best trigger by most (not me) was the Kahr CM9. I really like the Glock trigger and I own the LC9S!
Best and favorite conceal carry (ie, easy of pocketing or holstering), the S&W Shield by most.
Favorite gun to shoot and most accurate gun including some rapid fire with various ammo:
1. The Glock 43
2. Tied: The Ruger LC9S and S&W Shield
3. The Kahr CM9. (stove piped about 1 round American Eagle JHP per magazine)
So this was just the opinions of 8 guys having some fun at an outdoor range. Ironically, the favorite gun to shoot overall was my Ruger LCRx which really doesn't fall into the category for comparison. I believe everybody enjoyed this gun the most because we were shooting my handloads with semi wadcutters that are basically an old cowboy load at sub 900 fps. A pleasure to shoot and by far the most accurate of all handguns we shot.
Back to the Glock 43.
Two guys left saying they will own the Glock 43 before next week is out. One guy said, Hey even if its a little more money I'm gonna own another Glock! Not sure what to make of that comment...Ego or whatever. But, it is what it is and that is what he said.
The other fellow made a more interesting comment. He said, "After shooting all these guns, I ask myself, if any one of these guns was a free gift and I could have anyone of them but first I need to pound 500 rounds before taking it home...absolutely I'm going with the Glock 43!"
I know that's an impromptu review on our lil gathering but some interesting comments and experiences came from it!
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