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Post by esshup on May 14, 2016 17:35:06 GMT -5
That bush that is commonly seen along the roadways that now has the white flowers on it now in Northern Indiana? I keep wanting to say it's Autumn Olive, but I believe that is incorrect. Light green colored leaves, will have thorns on it.
I know diesel/Garlon 4 works great on it as a basal spray, but was also wondering if water based Picloram will also work just as well.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 14, 2016 18:09:23 GMT -5
That bush that is commonly seen along the roadways that now has the white flowers on it now in Northern Indiana? I keep wanting to say it's Autumn Olive, but I believe that is incorrect. Light green colored leaves, will have thorns on it. I know diesel/Garlon 4 works great on it as a basal spray, but was also wondering if water based Picloram will also work just as well. sounds like autumn olive to me.
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Post by drs on May 15, 2016 4:52:42 GMT -5
Sounds like you're describing Blackberry bushes.
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Post by throbak on May 15, 2016 5:18:09 GMT -5
Autumn. Olive Too early up north for BB , ours are just now blooming in SE Indiana
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Post by nfalls116 on May 15, 2016 5:35:29 GMT -5
Autumn. Olive Too early up north for BB , ours are just now blooming in SE Indiana you would know better than I but didn't the state plant A bunch of autumn olive along the highways years ago? I've never seen much of it around here but see a lot of staghorn summack instead along the highway.
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2016 8:21:06 GMT -5
Definitely not Blackberry. Definitely not sumac.
Thanks throbak; have you tried Picloram on it? I know Garlon 4 works but I have about a gallon of Picloram left from a hack and squirt project 2 years ago and wanted to use it up.
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Post by drs on May 15, 2016 8:39:09 GMT -5
Definitely not Blackberry. Definitely not sumac. Thanks throbak; have you tried Picloram on it? I know Garlon 4 works but I have about a gallon of Picloram left from a hack and squirt project 2 years ago and wanted to use it up. Could also be Multaflora rose, but I still think it Blackberry bushes.
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2016 8:51:41 GMT -5
Definitely not Blackberry. Definitely not sumac. Thanks throbak; have you tried Picloram on it? I know Garlon 4 works but I have about a gallon of Picloram left from a hack and squirt project 2 years ago and wanted to use it up. Could also be Multaflora rose, but I still think it Blackberry bushes. I will take a picture and post it later today. How are you guys at ID'ing a plant that is in the water? I have no idea what this one is, but I swear I've seen it before. I was told the flowers are white.
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Post by drs on May 15, 2016 9:04:31 GMT -5
Could also be Multaflora rose, but I still think it Blackberry bushes. I will take a picture and post it later today. How are you guys at ID'ing a plant that is in the water? I have no idea what this one is, but I swear I've seen it before. I was told the flowers are white. Lotus Plant or Common Water Lily. (Photos above)
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2016 14:43:06 GMT -5
I know for sure that the plant is not a lotus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nuciferaOr a common water lily: The flowers are like the flowers of a Pickerelweed, but white. The 2nd pic is of a post flowering flowerhead.
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2016 14:45:24 GMT -5
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Post by throbak on May 15, 2016 14:58:22 GMT -5
Amur honeysuckle and autumn olive 2 different isn't it ?
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Post by esshup on May 15, 2016 20:30:06 GMT -5
It's hard to tell in the pics, I will try to get better ones of a single bush by itself. There could be both growing next to each other in those pics now that I look at them here.
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Post by duff on May 15, 2016 21:16:10 GMT -5
get rid of both
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Post by duff on May 15, 2016 21:23:32 GMT -5
Could also be Multaflora rose, but I still think it Blackberry bushes. I will take a picture and post it later today. How are you guys at ID'ing a plant that is in the water? I have no idea what this one is, but I swear I've seen it before. I was told the flowers are white. maybe a water primrose or type of loosestrife. pic of the flower would help
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Post by duff on May 15, 2016 21:36:35 GMT -5
i am leaning towards buttonbush now. stems are pretty heavy. maybe higher water than normal this year?
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Post by drs on May 16, 2016 4:30:58 GMT -5
I give-up on I.D. of plants in question. Got a few wild plants growing down here in Central Kentucky that I've not yet been able to Identify.
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Post by esshup on May 16, 2016 9:08:22 GMT -5
drs, I know, it's difficult to ID plants from pictures. You should try underwater plants......
Throbak, Autumn Olive is what I was thinking the majority of the plants in question were.
Have you tried Picloram on them?
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Post by schall53 on May 16, 2016 11:04:12 GMT -5
CHECK OUT THE 4TH PARAGRAPH
Management Requirements: Elaeagnus umbellata seems to be a problem only in locations where small stands or rows were planted, usually within the last 10-20 years, and have begun to spread into adjacent fields or natural areas. It apparently can become troublesome where it occurs on or next to prairies with infrequent prescribed burns because it resprouts quickly after fire damage or cutting.
Since burning and cutting stimulate resprouting, herbicide treatment may be necessary to eradicate large patches. One method of application is to cut the plant off at the main stem and paint the herbicide on the stump. Glyphosate is effective and commonly used. Kurz (pers. comm.)[3] and Nyboer (pers. comm.)[4] recommended a 10-20% dilution for painting on stumps. Foliar applications may be adequate for small patches; the recommended dilution of glyphosate in this case is a 1-2% solution. Kurz (pers. comm.)[3] stated that the best time for herbicide application is in late August or September when the plant is actively translocating materials to the roots.
Kuhns (1986)[5] reported that March dormant season basal applications (stem injections) of triclopyr alone or in combination with 2,4-D provided excellent control of autumn olive at very low concentrations (down to 1% triclopyr in diesel oil). The lowest concentrations of triclopyr and all treatments with the 2,4- D/triclopyr combinations provided slower kills than higher concentrations of triclopyr alone, but only one of the treatment plants were expected to survive.[5] Foliar applications of 2,4-D, triclopyr or metsulfuron methyl in late May or June at recommended rates did not provide adequate control, and even plants that were severely injured recovered the following year. Dicamba applied in late June at 4 lbs/gal (2 qts/100 gal/acre) with a surfactant provided 90% total kill and severely retarded the growth of surviving stems the following year.[5] Glyphosate was not included in this study.
Ohlenbusch and Ritty (1979)[6] reported excellent results for the control of russian olive (E. angustifolia) in Kansas using a variety of herbicides and treatments. Applications were made on June 14 and results evaluated in late August. Foliar applications of dicamba, picloram, and glyphosate, all in a 90% water/10% diesel oil carrier, resulted in total root kill. However, glyphosate in both 1% and 2% solutions damaged herbaceous plants under the trees so extensively that foliar application of this chemical is not recommended.
Basal application of triclopyr, all mixed in diesel oil and applied June 14, also resulted in 100% control. A second study by the same authors indicated that diesel oil alone also provides highly effective basal control of E. angustifolia.[6]
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Post by throbak on May 16, 2016 20:56:54 GMT -5
No; I use pathfinder and or garlon 4 I Have used glyphosate just because i was there and it was there It killed it with a foliar spray ,, not button bush they bloom in about August State fair time I volunteer at the Pathway and its blooming when or just before that
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