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Post by StingyRog on Feb 22, 2016 14:19:38 GMT -5
I recently took my wife and 2 children out to do some target shooting. They really had a great time. Since then my wife has ask to go back out twice. We are starting to shoot 100-150 rounds of 9mm a month. Would it be economical to start to reload 9mm? If so, what press or kit (preferably) would you recommend? Single stage press or multiple station press? Any thoughts on Lee presses? www.midwayusa.com/product/121744/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-kitIf store bought 9mm ammo averages .25 a shot, what is the average cost of reloads? What about reloading for .380 ACP? My daughter just purchased a Glock 42. Sweet gun, but more expensive to shoot! Thanks for the info.
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Post by esshup on Feb 22, 2016 18:47:39 GMT -5
If you don't have the equipment yet, I don't know if just reloading 100-150 rounds a month will get you a payback any time soon. For deals on ammo look at www.ammoman.com/ or www.sgammo.com/
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 22, 2016 18:58:12 GMT -5
I recently took my wife and 2 children out to do some target shooting. They really had a great time. Since then my wife has ask to go back out twice. We are starting to shoot 100-150 rounds of 9mm a month. Would it be economical to start to reload 9mm? If so, what press or kit (preferably) would you recommend? Single stage press or multiple station press? Any thoughts on Lee presses? www.midwayusa.com/product/121744/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-kitIf store bought 9mm ammo averages .25 a shot, what is the average cost of reloads? What about reloading for .380 ACP? My daughter just purchased a Glock 42. Sweet gun, but more expensive to shoot! Thanks for the info. I want to get a G42 they look and feel real nice. How does she like it? Once you get set up and all supplies its cheaper but like essup said 100 -200 a month is kinda iffy.
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Post by medic22 on Feb 22, 2016 19:03:30 GMT -5
9mm used to not be cost effective, that changed since 2008. I dont load 9mm but some quick rough math, not accou ting for the fact that you wont use an entire pound of powder per k, and assuming you already have brass, youre looking at 11 cents a round. This also dowsnt include cost of equipment. You can also cut that cost by buying in bulk. This also does not include what you value your time at.
Lee equipment is perfectly fine, i have a lee single stage, turret, and progressive, and use all lee dies. Like everything, reloading manufacturers have their fan boys. It all works, some works a little better. The average shooter/reloader will never notice the difference.
Now, a single stage is great to learn on, reloading can be overwhelming when you start. Single stages are slow, i dont remember how slow, cause mine is only used on my precision 308 loads, which is about 50 rounds in 2 hours for me. The plus about a single stage, if you upgrade later, youll always find a use for a single stage.
I can load 300 an hour on my turret if im really in a groove, more like 200 average. On the progressive i can do about 450 an hour.
The lee single stage kits have almost everything you need to start, youll need calipers and dies of your choice. Extra bushings are great so you dont have to adjust your dies every time. In 4 years ive never trimmed pistol brass, but they sell all sorts of cheap case trimmers.
Most importantly, by a reloading manual and read it cover to cover........twice.
ETA: the type of press will also depend on your system. I can prep brass at work, so i do a lot of sizing and trimming there. I still prefer to hand prime over press prime, so i dont use my progressive to its full potential. I never would have even gotten it if it werent $30, but i couldnt pass that up.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 23, 2016 8:36:20 GMT -5
I would want a progressive if you are going to load handgun rounds and at that quantity I don't know that I would bother with it, especially 9mm.
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Post by esshup on Feb 23, 2016 13:03:50 GMT -5
medic22, thanks for posting those numbers. I was curious how many pistol per hour on a single stage, but I see that you don't use one for pistol.
I have all the components to reload 1K of 9mm and .45 acp, and about 200 .480 Ruger. If I was going to get into pistol shooting, I'd get a progressive. I have one for shotgun, and if I'm in the groove, I can kick out around 10 per minute once all the stations are full.
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Post by medic22 on Feb 23, 2016 13:43:29 GMT -5
medic22, thanks for posting those numbers. I was curious how many pistol per hour on a single stage, but I see that you don't use one for pistol. I have all the components to reload 1K of 9mm and .45 acp, and about 200 .480 Ruger. If I was going to get into pistol shooting, I'd get a progressive. I have one for shotgun, and if I'm in the groove, I can kick out around 10 per minute once all the stations are full. I want to say it was around 100 an hour using the lee powder measure that comes with the single stage kit. Its been a long time since ive loaded any pistol on it.
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Post by esshup on Feb 23, 2016 14:03:40 GMT -5
I have an RCBS Uniflow Powder measure that I could use. That might speed it up a smidge.
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Post by shootnrod on May 10, 2016 9:51:58 GMT -5
When a friend and I bought our first Dillon 650 a few years ago, we calculated that our break-even was about 5,000 rounds. Between the two of us, that wasn't hard to justify. You might want to look at partnering with someone. We've had a lot of fun over the year working different loads and spending winter evenings talking about shooting and hunting while reloading. I guess what I'm saying is that there are more benefits to it than just saving money.
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Post by INhuntin on May 27, 2016 18:06:57 GMT -5
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