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28ga
Sept 13, 2015 7:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Sept 13, 2015 7:40:50 GMT -5
Why cut the barrel down? With the full length vent rib on it, you might be looking at a complete rib replacement and re-blueing too. Some of the thick brush I hunt in I like a short compact barrel to swing through the brush. Will it happen. That I don't know.
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28ga
Sept 15, 2015 23:20:05 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Sept 15, 2015 23:20:05 GMT -5
I can see wanting a shorter barrel for that scenario.
But, at least for me, I have a hard time swinging the gun and squeezing the trigger at the proper time. Muscle memory is used to shooting a 30" bbl O/U and I end up swinging past what I wanted to shoot, stopping the barrel and re-starting it. So, I either shoot in front or behind with the durn thing. I need to shoot a couple hundred rounds through it on the skeet field to re-learn the timing with the light gun.
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28ga
Sept 23, 2015 20:28:15 GMT -5
Post by bullseye69 on Sept 23, 2015 20:28:15 GMT -5
Where do you find ammo for that gun other than a catalog? I have found it at Wally world, if you can believe it! Seen it at two different ones.
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28ga
Sept 23, 2015 21:36:47 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 23, 2015 21:36:47 GMT -5
Our Walmart has it heck they carry all kinds of stuff. They'll usually even order it in for ya if they don't have it
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 23, 2015 21:47:06 GMT -5
I have even seen 16ga there.
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28ga
Sept 24, 2015 0:00:41 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 24, 2015 0:00:41 GMT -5
Ours used to keep .303 British in stock too don't know if the still do sold the rifle
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28ga
Oct 17, 2015 19:25:25 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Oct 17, 2015 19:25:25 GMT -5
Well span... Here goes. Gonna give you my strong opinion. Go with the Franchi and don't look back! A little method to my madness here...the reason I suggest a SxS is to get your response. The fact your'e not interested tells me you're not quite as interested in the "cool" factor. But then, I think that al 48 is a very cool gun, especially in 28 gauge. Believe me, you'll get the cool factor as you ease that baby out of the case! A few other points. After guiding for years, I can't ever remember one of my gunners having issues with a Franchi. I can tell you that some of the Stevens did have a few issues. Mainly, they failed to fire the second barrel. I don't recall the model and there may be a lot of reasons for the failure. I will also say it's not enough of a problem that would ever keep me from buyin a Stevens. Now, you also want to bust a turkey?! That alone would break my decision down to a no brainier. Go Franchi. As far as the weight. Hey, it's a 28ga! Unless you're gonna walk that baby over rough terrain or thick mountain briars all day long, you won't know the difference. Ammo? Don't worry. You'll find that easy enough. And as you say you won't need much. And heck, worse comes to worse, PM me and I'll hook you up with a box! Now back to the coolness factor. Once you bust the first clay or pop that first bunny, I'll betcha the coolness factor of that Franchi goes way up on yer meter. Well, I'm done preach in' for now! Now darn it you got me questioning a SxS. I was at cabelas and they had a gun manufactured by Yildiz. Pretty SxS in .410. Fit like a glove. Swung well and sight plane was perfect. Came home to do a bit of research on them and found they are I believe a Turkish gun. They were only imported into the united States for a very limited time and only carried by academy stores. Briley does the warranty on them and from what I found are a very reliable gun with few problems. But alas I called cabelas today to see if they still had it to go pick it up and it was gone. My luck. So back to research. I'm still stuck on the 28 and the .410. This gun isn't going to get 10,000 rounds through it in a year at the range. More like 1000 in its life if I am lucky. I have been looking at the cz bobwhite in 28. Mixed reviews. Firing pin issues. Fit issues. Barrel issues. But of course there are the other 50% that love them. I'm trying to keep it at the $1000 price range or less. Anything else I should be looking at? Single trigger and I hate the English stock. Go.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:59:55 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 17, 2015 19:59:55 GMT -5
My vote is still the Franchi. I have had absolutely 0 problems with mine.
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28ga
Oct 17, 2015 20:44:25 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Oct 17, 2015 20:44:25 GMT -5
Well that was all fine and good until he all but convinced me I needed a SxS. Actually I think it was just that one I seen at cabelas. Probably go with the franchi in the end.
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28ga
Oct 17, 2015 23:17:08 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 17, 2015 23:17:08 GMT -5
Some guys like the SXS, others don't like the wide sighting plane. I've never shot one so I can't tell. But, the way I shoot, (get the gun to fit you and don't look at the durn thing) it might not make a difference.
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Post by HighCotton on Oct 18, 2015 7:26:21 GMT -5
I don't believe I've ever heard of the Yildiz. Sounds interesting though. Heck, I just like being part of your journey in choosing a nice double gun. Probably because I'm simply into them period. Any gun shop, that's the first place I zoom in on! So, I still like the Franchi. But I wonder if you've ever considered a Ruger Red Label? I bring this up because it is by far MY favorite double gun (in 20 ga)! I know some hate 'em and others love 'em. I'm in the latter camp and have easily punched over 5,000 shells through mine without a single problem. I felt the gun looked a bit plain so I sold a pistol to have it hand engraved commemorating my main dog from days back "Cotton!" I know they can be found in 28 gauge. And, where I debated the English stock originally...I love it! So...here ya go! More ideas to ponder
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Oct 18, 2015 8:16:56 GMT -5
Post by featherduster on Oct 18, 2015 8:16:56 GMT -5
That's a nice photo and a nice tribute to dog.
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28ga
Oct 21, 2015 22:29:20 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Oct 21, 2015 22:29:20 GMT -5
I actually have a 20ga red label. I thought about sending it to Briley and having it tubed. For $1300 I can have 28ga and .410 tube set. Problems I have with the red label. Weight. Just don't think it carries well. I do alot of walking with my dogs and it just seems cumbersome to me. Second is sling attachment. Just don't want to drill into the stock. I don't like the slings that slip over the stock and not a fan of barrel bands and the ones that slip over the barrel interfere with my sight picture. Back to weight, the tubes will add another pound. Idk how much less the 28 weighs but I don't like carrying it now and sure ain't going to like it with another pound.
Essup, I tried. I really tired. I went back to cabelas today. Picked up the franchi so many times trying to get it to walk out the door with me but she just wouldn't. Bet you I went back and picked it up 20 times. First off. The looks just don't trip my trigger. Not a bad looking gun all in all but she just doesn't catch my fancy. 2nd. The wood. I've seen plastic wood look more like wood that the stock and forearm on those do. I don't know if its the high gloss or what but it just looks cheap. Nothing against the quality of the fun in itself but it's just not there. I'm sorry man I tried, I really tried. So back to drawing board.
Guys have any suggestions on gun stores that might carry a selection of 28 or 410? I can find them online all day but nothing can take away from handling them. I'm finding guns exact model and manufacturer fitting different.
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28ga
Oct 22, 2015 12:11:58 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 22, 2015 12:11:58 GMT -5
span870, I'll have to take a picture of mine. The wood is great. I guess it's luck of the draw - A friend had an FFL years ago, I just called him and ordered it sight unseen.
I wish you were closer, even tho mine is a 20 ga, we'd go shoot clays and you could use it to see how you liked it.
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28ga
Oct 22, 2015 13:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 22, 2015 13:44:04 GMT -5
I actually have a 20ga red label. I thought about sending it to Briley and having it tubed. For $1300 I can have 28ga and .410 tube set. Problems I have with the red label. Weight. Just don't think it carries well. I do alot of walking with my dogs and it just seems cumbersome to me. Second is sling attachment. Just don't want to drill into the stock. I don't like the slings that slip over the stock and not a fan of barrel bands and the ones that slip over the barrel interfere with my sight picture. Back to weight, the tubes will add another pound. Idk how much less the 28 weighs but I don't like carrying it now and sure ain't going to like it with another pound. Essup, I tried. I really tired. I went back to cabelas today. Picked up the franchi so many times trying to get it to walk out the door with me but she just wouldn't. Bet you I went back and picked it up 20 times. First off. The looks just don't trip my trigger. Not a bad looking gun all in all but she just doesn't catch my fancy. 2nd. The wood. I've seen plastic wood look more like wood that the stock and forearm on those do. I don't know if its the high gloss or what but it just looks cheap. Nothing against the quality of the fun in itself but it's just not there. I'm sorry man I tried, I really tried. So back to drawing board. Guys have any suggestions on gun stores that might carry a selection of 28 or 410? I can find them online all day but nothing can take away from handling them. I'm finding guns exact model and manufacturer fitting different. Sorry to hear you don't like the franchi they are nice guns but I'm a utility guy not a looks guy but I understand if the gun don't fit you must acquit
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28ga
Oct 24, 2015 5:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Oct 24, 2015 5:16:52 GMT -5
span870, I'll have to take a picture of mine. The wood is great. I guess it's luck of the draw - A friend had an FFL years ago, I just called him and ordered it sight unseen. I wish you were closer, even tho mine is a 20 ga, we'd go shoot clays and you could use it to see how you liked it. I'm wondering and maybe you can answer this for me, does franchi make 2 different models of the 48 like wingmaster and express for the 870. I've talked to several guys who all love them and all disagree with me about the wood. Maybe what I was looking at was the "express" model. It sure did have a look of cheap plastic.
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28ga
Oct 24, 2015 5:24:20 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Oct 24, 2015 5:24:20 GMT -5
I actually have a 20ga red label. I thought about sending it to Briley and having it tubed. For $1300 I can have 28ga and .410 tube set. Problems I have with the red label. Weight. Just don't think it carries well. I do alot of walking with my dogs and it just seems cumbersome to me. Second is sling attachment. Just don't want to drill into the stock. I don't like the slings that slip over the stock and not a fan of barrel bands and the ones that slip over the barrel interfere with my sight picture. Back to weight, the tubes will add another pound. Idk how much less the 28 weighs but I don't like carrying it now and sure ain't going to like it with another pound. Essup, I tried. I really tired. I went back to cabelas today. Picked up the franchi so many times trying to get it to walk out the door with me but she just wouldn't. Bet you I went back and picked it up 20 times. First off. The looks just don't trip my trigger. Not a bad looking gun all in all but she just doesn't catch my fancy. 2nd. The wood. I've seen plastic wood look more like wood that the stock and forearm on those do. I don't know if its the high gloss or what but it just looks cheap. Nothing against the quality of the fun in itself but it's just not there. I'm sorry man I tried, I really tried. So back to drawing board. Guys have any suggestions on gun stores that might carry a selection of 28 or 410? I can find them online all day but nothing can take away from handling them. I'm finding guns exact model and manufacturer fitting different. Sorry to hear you don't like the franchi they are nice guns but I'm a utility guy not a looks guy but I understand if the gun don't fit you must acquit I'm with you on the utility aspect of guns. I have one whole safe dedicated to Remington. Quite a few animal specific guns in there dedicated to each their own animal purpose. All are 870 or 11-87. I want just one gun that is a complete unnecessary purchase. Just one that just stands out. Now I won't go as far as buying a perazzi to hunt rabbits but just something that doesn't fit the utility gun niche. No argue with you on the franchi utility and function. I'm still looking for that one article or write up that states that they are junk. Heck I can't even find an article that mentions a single problem with them. I think my problem is I just fell in love with that little Yildiz .410 and comparing anything I find to it. I sent an pm to sakohunter, as they are fairly well known in the UK and he gave me a pretty rave review of them. If I don't find one comparable, and I don't see that I'm going to, I see myself on a treasure hunt until I find one.
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28ga
Oct 24, 2015 22:23:31 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Oct 24, 2015 22:23:31 GMT -5
span870, I'll have to take a picture of mine. The wood is great. I guess it's luck of the draw - A friend had an FFL years ago, I just called him and ordered it sight unseen. I wish you were closer, even tho mine is a 20 ga, we'd go shoot clays and you could use it to see how you liked it. I'm wondering and maybe you can answer this for me, does franchi make 2 different models of the 48 like wingmaster and express for the 870. I've talked to several guys who all love them and all disagree with me about the wood. Maybe what I was looking at was the "express" model. It sure did have a look of cheap plastic. Yes they do. Satin Walnut and "A" - Grade Walnut www.franchiusa.com/48-al-semi-auto-shotgun
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28ga
Dec 21, 2015 20:27:56 GMT -5
Post by single_shooter on Dec 21, 2015 20:27:56 GMT -5
I bought a cheap SxS Stoeger years ago with it's 20ga twin for $200 each. Still have it but sold the 20ga. Now have added an 1100 Sporting 28 (my fave), a Verona O/U and an 870 Express the wives bought me for Christmas back in 2010.
I love them. About all I use when I chase bunnies. Over dogs, jump shooting...don't care. If I get some open ground and running dogs I will often opt for my Contender .410ga 10inch pistol...but that's not so often. And usually a 28 is in the truck if I decide the cover is getting too thick.
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