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Post by omegahunter on Jun 29, 2015 11:31:00 GMT -5
Been using Slick Trick Magnums, Grizz Tricks, and Muzzy Phantom MX's. Yep, I like 4 blades.
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Post by jimstc on Jun 29, 2015 15:57:11 GMT -5
I use the Magnus stinger 4 blade 100gr. I like the fixed blade broadhead and one you can resharpen on your own. Plus the Magnus has a lifetime guarantee. As much as broadheads cost anymore I can buy 6 and be set for the rest of my life. Just send the broken or bent one in and they send you a new one. Can't say that about any other broadhead. I also get a complete pass through and if I don't they will still cut when the arrow comes back out. I tried the rage 2 blade and did not like them for many reasons. 1. They always came open in my quiver because of the cheap O ring around the blades. 2. Once they are shot they are usually trash because of bent blades or they don't resharpen very well, Especially the tip. 3. They do not seem to penetrate very well and rarely ever get a full pass through. Even on TV shows when they shoot Rage, they rarely get a full pass through. I think they catch too much ribs and bone and do not penetrate well and then when the arrow comes back out it does not cut anything because the blades fold back up. 4. If a deer is not perfectly broadside it spells trouble. Yes they make one heck of an entry hole but I like 2 holes and I like to see my arrow to see what kind of blood it has on it to figure out what kind of hit it was. You cant do that if you don't get a pass through and usally when the arrrow is stuck in them they will break them off busting a 10 dollar arrow. I just do not feel confident using something mechanical that can fail and trust a 1 cent O ring when any deer presents a shot. Sincere thanks for your response. This is exactly the information I was seeking. I have had the same experience with the Rage mechanicals. I appreciate your confirmation.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 30, 2015 4:48:23 GMT -5
Nice Point Trapper Dave. I think its from the same manufacturer as mine. yup. hopefully this year it gets released
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Post by scrub-buster on Jun 30, 2015 6:39:03 GMT -5
Nice Point Trapper Dave. I think its from the same manufacturer as mine. yup. hopefully this year it gets released And hits its mark. Good luck this year.
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Post by jimstc on Jun 30, 2015 16:09:56 GMT -5
I gotta say that I admire the hunters who are hunting primitive. It takes some "stones" (pun intended) to hunt that way. Just my opinion..... Good luck to you both this year!
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 1, 2015 14:36:50 GMT -5
I gotta say that I admire the hunters who are hunting primitive. It takes some "stones" (pun intended) to hunt that way. Just my opinion..... Good luck to you both this year! It really does Jim. I admire them too ...greatly, but I'm going to stick with my sharp stick ...I mean crossbow.
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Post by jimstc on Jul 1, 2015 16:10:05 GMT -5
I gotta say that I admire the hunters who are hunting primitive. It takes some "stones" (pun intended) to hunt that way. Just my opinion..... Good luck to you both this year! It really does Jim. I admire them too ...greatly, but I'm going to stick with my sharp stick ...I mean crossbow. Don't blame you at all. I am sticking with my compound. Moved on from my crossbow. Just like the compound better. Sure is more conducive to practice, at least for me. But, wow, no let off on a recurve! That is some "badask" stuff. Really liked your post re its the shoes that counts. A++ humor grade. Very, very good!
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Post by scrub-buster on Jul 1, 2015 20:30:23 GMT -5
I gotta say that I admire the hunters who are hunting primitive. It takes some "stones" (pun intended) to hunt that way. Just my opinion..... Good luck to you both this year! It really does Jim. I admire them too ...greatly, but I'm going to stick with my sharp stick ...I mean crossbow. I still use a crossbow and a gun to fill the freezer. I hunt primitive gear the first three or four weeks of the season. It is very rewarding to kill a deer with a weapon that you created. It was pretty cool to go hunting with the same weapons that the native americans used.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 1, 2015 21:16:26 GMT -5
It really does Jim. I admire them too ...greatly, but I'm going to stick with my sharp stick ...I mean crossbow. I still use a crossbow and a gun to fill the freezer. I hunt primitive gear the first three or four weeks of the season. It is very rewarding to kill a deer with a weapon that you created. It was pretty cool to go hunting with the same weapons that the native americans used. It is super cool! I shot one once, and missed the hay bale. I would have better luck jumping out of a tree and poking it to death what a sharp stick.
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Post by deadeer on Jul 2, 2015 0:44:16 GMT -5
Tried the 2 blade Rage with a compound a few yrs ago. They did kill the deer, but blood trails were not great. A gut shot buck didnt last long, and I attribute that to the big cut. A shoulder shot is really bad news though, typically no penetration and the head is junk. I am a believer that a two blade hole will close up and slow the blood loss, but hard to argue with pics from Shwackers and the FOC broadhead, 3" cut. I have went to Spitfires since going the crossbow route, no kills yet, but they shoot good. I have killed with Slick Trick Mags. They cut good, crack bones, and are accurate, and most importantly leave some tremendous destruction and blood trails. It seems like a 3 or 4 blade hole cant close up and makes for a nastier result, IMO. So far real happy.
Jay
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Post by jimstc on Jul 2, 2015 12:03:56 GMT -5
Tried the 2 blade Rage with a compound a few yrs ago. They did kill the deer, but blood trails were not great. A gut shot buck didnt last long, and I attribute that to the big cut. A shoulder shot is really bad news though, typically no penetration and the head is junk. I am a believer that a two blade hole will close up and slow the blood loss, but hard to argue with pics from Shwackers and the FOC broadhead, 3" cut. I have went to Spitfires since going the crossbow route, no kills yet, but they shoot good. I have killed with Slick Trick Mags. They cut good, crack bones, and are accurate, and most importantly leave some tremendous destruction and blood trails. It seems like a 3 or 4 blade hole cant close up and makes for a nastier result, IMO. So far real happy. Jay Jay, I agree with you on the Rage 2 blade. Thanks for the confirmation. My Slick Trick Mags should be at the post office. I'll be trying them out this afternoon.
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Post by boonechaser on Jul 2, 2015 13:21:31 GMT -5
Whatever shoot's well out of your bow. I use the Rage 100 gr. 2 blades without incident. Shoulder hit my last buck. Went threw shoulder and embedded in opp. front leg. Buck went 60 yds. My experience's have been impressive blood trail's. Think it boils down to shot placement more than broad head and whatever flies well out of your set up.
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Post by jimstc on Jul 2, 2015 18:25:48 GMT -5
Isn't amazing the different experiences we all have? This thread has taught me a lot. I reckon back to a board hanging in my kitchen: "fishing, if it was easy they'd call it catching". Always trying to learn. Thanks for all the knowledge that has been shared
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Post by Russ Koon on Jul 3, 2015 12:57:31 GMT -5
Tried a bunch of heads over the years. Stayed with Muzzy for several years, but eventually went back to my first real favorite of years earlier, the NAP Thunderheads.
The tips are hardened steel that holds up very well in contacting anything up to and including bone on impact, yet is still resharpened easily to a needle point with a few light strokes of a stone. I've had a few deform in practice, but it takes an impact with and embedded rock.
The blades seem to be made of very good steel with just the right heat treatment, as they hold their edge very well, and take lots of practice into the dirt where I usually shoot my BH practice with very few nicks that eliminate them from being resharpened and reused for hunting. And the design of the blades and heads make them easy to remove and sharpen with stones and stropping to a smooth shaving edge.
I agree with tynimiller's post about placement, but also realize that "stuff happens" and was very impressed with the penetration of one of my Thunderheads through one side of the thick pelvic bone of a small buck when my hurried shot caused my string to hit my arm and the arrow to impact him in the hip. The head not only penetrated that thick bone on the impacted side and embedded to the back of the blades in the opposite side, but cleanly severed the femoral artery that is protected by the pelvic girdle. Best case I had ever seen personally of a BH going above and beyond the norm to save the hunter from his own mistake. The buck only went about fifty yards.
Haven't yet had one that didn't spin well, and they group well and right with my FP's when I do my part, out to 40 yards, anyway, which is as far as I test.
There are a number of quality heads out there, and my TH's may not be the absolute best, depending on your weighing of the various criteria for choosing your own, but they seem to be a reliable top contender in just about any test they've been included in.
I'm still using the older style TH. Haven't yet tried the newer ones with the screws holding the blades in place. That earlier design did require some care in assembly to be certain that the blades were seated securely before tightening. Failing to pay attention to good assembly could result in a lost blade, but I used them for many years and still do, and practice with them a good deal, and have never had a blade come loose. I do tend to check head tightness fairly often when practicing, just in case, so that may contribute to my good luck in regard to blade loss.
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Post by trophyparadise on Jul 3, 2015 13:27:15 GMT -5
Tried a bunch of heads over the years. Stayed with Muzzy for several years, but eventually went back to my first real favorite of years earlier, the NAP Thunderheads. The tips are hardened steel that holds up very well in contacting anything up to and including bone on impact, yet is still resharpened easily to a needle point with a few light strokes of a stone. I've had a few deform in practice, but it takes an impact with and embedded rock. The blades seem to be made of very good steel with just the right heat treatment, as they hold their edge very well, and take lots of practice into the dirt where I usually shoot my BH practice with very few nicks that eliminate them from being resharpened and reused for hunting. And the design of the blades and heads make them easy to remove and sharpen with stones and stropping to a smooth shaving edge. I agree with tynimiller's post about placement, but also realize that "stuff happens" and was very impressed with the penetration of one of my Thunderheads through one side of the thick pelvic bone of a small buck when my hurried shot caused my string to hit my arm and the arrow to impact him in the hip. The head not only penetrated that thick bone on the impacted side and embedded to the back of the blades in the opposite side, but cleanly severed the femoral artery that is protected by the pelvic girdle. Best case I had ever seen personally of a BH going above and beyond the norm to save the hunter from his own mistake. The buck only went about fifty yards. Haven't yet had one that didn't spin well, and they group well and right with my FP's when I do my part, out to 40 yards, anyway, which is as far as I test. There are a number of quality heads out there, and my TH's may not be the absolute best, depending on your weighing of the various criteria for choosing your own, but they seem to be a reliable top contender in just about any test they've been included in. I'm still using the older style TH. Haven't yet tried the newer ones with the screws holding the blades in place. That earlier design did require some care in assembly to be certain that the blades were seated securely before tightening. Failing to pay attention to good assembly could result in a lost blade, but I used them for many years and still do, and practice with them a good deal, and have never had a blade come loose. I do tend to check head tightness fairly often when practicing, just in case, so that may contribute to my good luck in regard to blade loss. The new ones also have offset blades...I really like them Trophy Paradise Habitat Consulting "Trophies are built from the ground up" m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852914431431752
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Post by omegahunter on Jul 3, 2015 15:13:17 GMT -5
Tried the 2 blade Rage with a compound a few yrs ago. They did kill the deer, but blood trails were not great. A gut shot buck didnt last long, and I attribute that to the big cut. A shoulder shot is really bad news though, typically no penetration and the head is junk. I am a believer that a two blade hole will close up and slow the blood loss, but hard to argue with pics from Shwackers and the FOC broadhead, 3" cut. I have went to Spitfires since going the crossbow route, no kills yet, but they shoot good. I have killed with Slick Trick Mags. They cut good, crack bones, and are accurate, and most importantly leave some tremendous destruction and blood trails. It seems like a 3 or 4 blade hole cant close up and makes for a nastier result, IMO. So far real happy. Jay Jay, I agree with you on the Rage 2 blade. Thanks for the confirmation. My Slick Trick Mags should be at the post office. I'll be trying them out this afternoon. I just looked in the Cabela's archery catalog. The newly acquired Slick Trick company has boosted their asking price. I may try the Muzzy MX-4 next time I need to replace broadheads, but for now I just have to replace blades with the steel ferrule Slick Tricks.
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Post by jimstc on Jul 3, 2015 16:27:24 GMT -5
I just paid $80 for 8 of them from Bass Pro
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 5, 2015 19:54:11 GMT -5
I just paid $80 for 8 of them from Bass Pro I knew you were rich. What did you get today? I got the spitfires today. Hey, if Woody uses them, how can I go wrong? When I'm at the Canadian border with 500lbs of bear bait, that's what I'm going to tell them. "Hey, you let Woody do it."
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