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Post by swilk on May 27, 2015 8:54:24 GMT -5
I disagree with some of that...but not going to go into it.
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Post by chubwub on May 27, 2015 11:36:49 GMT -5
Confused as to how a large population size increases inbreeding and bad genetics in deer. In every other species and livestock I have worked with, a large population size increases genetic diversity. I was always taught that a small concentrated population is worse as you tend to see these inbreeding issues with endangered speices because there is less mate selection.
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Post by drs on May 27, 2015 11:42:59 GMT -5
Confused as to how a large population size increases inbreeding and bad genetics in deer. In every other species and livestock I have worked with, a large population size increases genetic diversity. I was always taught that a small concentrated population is worse as you tend to see these inbreeding issues with endangered speices because there is less mate selection. Exactly. The larger the population, of a given species, the less chance of inbreeding.
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Post by jimstc on May 27, 2015 12:45:34 GMT -5
Confused as to how a large population size increases inbreeding and bad genetics in deer. In every other species and livestock I have worked with, a large population size increases genetic diversity. I was always taught that a small concentrated population is worse as you tend to see these inbreeding issues with endangered speices because there is less mate selection. Very well put! You are absolutely correct! Thanks for the comment
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Post by swilk on May 27, 2015 12:56:03 GMT -5
Confused as to how a large population size increases inbreeding and bad genetics in deer. In every other species and livestock I have worked with, a large population size increases genetic diversity. I was always taught that a small concentrated population is worse as you tend to see these inbreeding issues with endangered speices because there is less mate selection. Exactly. The larger the population, of a given species, the less chance of inbreeding. Didn't you just say it was inbreeding and genetics? Edit: actually never mind. Cant believe I keep getting sucked into this.
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Post by drs on May 27, 2015 13:19:41 GMT -5
Exactly. The larger the population, of a given species, the less chance of inbreeding. Didn't you just say it was inbreeding and genetics? Edit: actually never mind. Cant believe I keep getting sucked into this. No problem, Swilk. I just have more knowledge in this discussion. You're entitled to your opinion.
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Post by swilk on May 27, 2015 13:25:49 GMT -5
I'm sure that's what it is....lol. It must be it to say the exact opposite things in two posts in the same thread then seem oblivious to the fact it was done.
Knowledgeable. Yep.
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Post by chubwub on May 27, 2015 15:02:08 GMT -5
Now if you want to say that larger populations also have consequences because they increase the rates of disease, overgrow their habitat's carrying capacity and starve or start to negatively impact their enviroment then...yes I agree with that as well.
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Post by swilk on May 27, 2015 15:11:33 GMT -5
We will never know why these two got so unlucky .... and so far it does not appear as though anyone that has read this has seen or heard of it happening before so it does not look to be a common thing.
But ... I have driven across Kansas many times and they advertise to come see the two headed calf, the 5 headed snake and the worlds largest prairie dog. Maybe next year there will be a sign to come and see the no bottom jaw fawns.
Nature is .... anything but predictable.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 27, 2015 17:37:02 GMT -5
Gotta be global warming OR alien experimentation OR George Bush.
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Post by swilk on May 27, 2015 17:39:41 GMT -5
Or? You mean AND.....
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 27, 2015 17:50:21 GMT -5
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Post by drs on May 28, 2015 5:11:43 GMT -5
I'm sure that's what it is....lol. It must be it to say the exact opposite things in two posts in the same thread then seem oblivious to the fact it was done. Knowledgeable. Yep. Swilk, my friend, you just fail to understand what I was referring to. IF a certain species is lacking a healthy population; then inbreeding will happen. This will lead to all kinds of imperfections in said species, which is genetic abnormalities. Many species, that are in short supply; Scientists use a closely related species in breeding in order to preserve the endangered species. Not certain how those two fawns were born with no lower jaw, it would be interesting to find out. But I could only conclude it was due to a genetic mishap. This was an interesting thread, you started, but it is hard explaining to one not schooled in the science or study of species reproduction or genetics, in a "Hunting" forum post.
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Post by swilk on May 28, 2015 5:44:39 GMT -5
Very knowledgeable....don't give up on me. You just keep 'splainin and one day I just might get it.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 28, 2015 11:47:08 GMT -5
We just genetically alter what we want. Hey, this is a good idea! With a little time and money, we could have elephant deer ...then we'd really need HPRs!!!
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