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Post by josephwrealty on Aug 31, 2013 8:02:55 GMT -5
I learned alot about there intelligence over this season. I swear that on one set up that I was spotted coming into set up for I heard several distinct calls as I walked in and as I began my calling instead of coming to investigate I watched several crows fly away from area
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Post by esshup on Sept 20, 2013 10:39:48 GMT -5
We used to crow hunt at a farm in So. Cal. E-caller, and about 5 dozen crow decoys. The farmer had the decoys and the e-caller, but I've since bought a FoxPro. We'd set up in a flight route from their "winter" roost to their feeding area, and would have them flying over all day long. Best day for the 3 of us was almost 125 birds. We'd set up in a row of eucalyptus trees and had the decoys out in a field on the ground surrounding an owl decoy. They were harder to bring down than we thought, and since I do a lot of reloading, I settled in on shooting #6 shot. That seemed to bring them down quicker than 7 1/2's. I was using my Springer to retreive the birds, but quit after she brought back a live one that had a beak lock on her upper lip. I had to pry the crow's beak apart to set her free from the crow. I was too afraid of her getting poked in the eye.
I'm in Northern Indiana, about 12 miles West of Plymouth. Where in the state are you guys hunting?
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Post by josephwrealty on Sept 26, 2013 18:54:53 GMT -5
This past summer season I hunted over decoy set ups from as far north as Miami county down to Greene county. I hunt primarily public property so I tend travel alot during crow season in order to scout for deer and coyote season. Do you hunt crows around Plymouth? I would love to crow hunt a flyway like you mentioned.
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Post by esshup on Oct 20, 2013 0:59:13 GMT -5
Other than shooting a few during season that were near the house I haven't gone out and specifically targeted crows like we did in Ca.
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Post by josephwrealty on Oct 21, 2013 8:26:57 GMT -5
Ok
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Post by moose1am on Feb 3, 2014 20:59:29 GMT -5
I saw a show about how smart crows on. I think it was a PBS documentary. And they not only can recognize different individual humans as friend or foe but they teach their young to do the same thing. They are much smarter than most people think. I read once where they can count how many people go into the woods how many came out and know if there is anyone else still in the woods. I've hunted them before and love to play the crow/owl fighting sounds on my Johnny Stewart Caller in the back yard. They will fly over the yard to check it out. I put a owl decoy out in the back yard on a tomato stake once and they went crazy when they arrived. They landed in my small maple trees and fuzzed a lot. Every couple of months I get either the JS PM4 or the FoxPro and play some crow sounds on them. And then just to keep them on their toes I'll use my hand crow call to good effect. These crows live near my house and roost close buy. If the area was not so developed with houses I'd shoot them with my shotgun. I've thought about going out and trying to hunt them at times but have not done that yet. I have two crow decoys and an owl decoy and the Ecallers and everything I would need to hunt them. I would use my neighbors Remington Model 870 Twelve Gage shotgun. Once you shoot a few just put them under the owl decoy and they will bring in the other family members who are trying to kill the owl. And if you wing one and he's down on the ground he will be the best caller you can have. He will get the other's so riled up that they will come to see what they can do to try to help him. Like they want to really kill that owl decoy. They will dive bomb it over and over again. I wish I had the stuff owl that my college Wildlife Biology Professor had. The current Director of the IN Fish and Wildlife Division and I were studying at Purdue back in 1975 and were in the same class and we were both invited to go to the Professor's home one night to talk to him. He showed us his collection of stuff wildlife animals. We had a good time talking to him about his adventures. He was quite entertaining and a good story teller. He had a very cool and real stuff Great Horned Owl that he showed off. That stuff owl would make a very good decoy for crow hunting. PBS did a show on Crows. They are actually one of the smartest animals. They proved that they can recognize individual human faces. It was a fascinating documentary! |
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Post by drs on Feb 4, 2014 5:30:21 GMT -5
PBS did a show on Crows. They are actually one of the smartest animals. They proved that they can recognize individual human faces. It was a fascinating documentary! Crows are very intelligent creatures, of the many Avian species. Have several that visit my back yard each day looking for something to eat. They know they're safe as I don't hunt them. I find them very interesting to watch and entertaining, so I don't hunt or shoot them. There is an old "wives-tale" that if you split a Crows tongue it will talk, which is false. Blue jays, magpies, and Ravens are members of the Crow Family. |
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Post by chubwub on Jul 3, 2014 14:48:34 GMT -5
This year for Christmas I was given a FoxPro. I was very eager to try out and play with my new toy, especially for crow hunting but was unwilling to do experimentation in our hunting areas because I did not want to risk educating the crows. So we did the next best thing, and played the FoxPro crow fight from our car in a McDonald's parking lot. About 150 them came rushing over to investigate the commotion, and circled the building making all sorts of ruckus and mayhem ensued. A couple cars got splattered with "presents" and 2 of the crows narrowly missed colliding with each other in mid-air in the midst of the excitement. We actually got them to follow our car for about 500 yards before they gave up the pursuit.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 3, 2014 18:00:42 GMT -5
This year for Christmas I was given a FoxPro. I was very eager to try out and play with my new toy, especially for crow hunting but was unwilling to do experimentation in our hunting areas because I did not want to risk educating the crows. So we did the next best thing, and played the FoxPro crow fight from our car in a McDonald's parking lot. About 150 them came rushing over to investigate the commotion, and circled the building making all sorts of ruckus and mayhem ensued. A couple cars got splattered with "presents" and 2 of the crows narrowly missed colliding with each other in mid-air in the midst of the excitement. We actually got them to follow our car for about 500 yards before they gave up the pursuit. Now that is funny!! Sure sounds like it works pretty well.. |
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Post by tenring on Jul 3, 2014 19:20:54 GMT -5
Which sound track did you use?
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Post by chubwub on Jul 3, 2014 19:33:01 GMT -5
We used the standard sound from foxpro called crowfight. One issue you will run into with it is that it works well for about 5 minutes and then you have an entire flock of educated crows to deal with. They wise up very quickly, and my spouse prefers to have them come in smaller numbers.
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Post by tenring on Jul 4, 2014 7:05:41 GMT -5
Thanks. I'm still getting used to my Fury 2. What call brings them in a few at a time and not mess up the whole township?
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Post by chubwub on Jul 4, 2014 9:40:53 GMT -5
My spouse by far is the expert but Ill share a few of his secrets.It depends on their mood and your setup. Usually your setup is what tips them off first if it's not good. Traditionally when crows gather on the ground, there are a few that roost above the rest as a sentinal.
Depending on your setup, it is best to use a rally, greeting or crow duet to bring in a few at a time.
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Post by moose1am on Jul 6, 2014 0:05:12 GMT -5
Crows have proven to be exceptionally intelligent at least as far as birds are concerned. The use of decoys in conjunction with an e caller and mouth call has proven to be the most effective tactic. I will be interested to see how a group that has been put under pressure will behave later in the season. I've used a owl decoy that I have and a few black foam 3 D crow decoys along with my PM4 Johnny Stewart with some crow call chips in it along with the Fox Pro FX3 unit with some crow calls to get them to come over my house and dive bomb the owl decoy. I put the owl decoy out in the back yard under some 15 years old maple trees and knew that crows hate owls and will violently attack them during the day light hours. Owls will kill the crows in their roosts at night so the crows will mob any owl they can see and catch in the daylight.
I was thinking about going out and doing some owl hunting here in Warrick County. We have a few flocks that roam around this county. I have access to my neighbors Remington Model 870 Wing Master that he lets me keep at my house and use. I also have his semi auto Remington 12 gage but I'm not allowed to use that one to hunt with. But the Model 870 is a great pump 12 gage shotgun and I've killed a few doves with it a few years ago. I use to own and use a similar shotgun when I was younger and use to hunt ducks, geese, squirrels and rabbits with that Model 870 WingMaster shotgun. I sold it when I got married as I needed some money at the time and had not hunted for a few years. I wish now that I had kept it. But it's all good now that I have access to a newer model of the same gun. This new one has a ventilated rib on the top of the barrel and I love how that helps with the aiming.
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Post by deadeer on Jul 6, 2014 10:10:01 GMT -5
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Post by deadeer on Jul 6, 2014 10:15:22 GMT -5
Crows have proven to be exceptionally intelligent at least as far as birds are concerned. The use of decoys in conjunction with an e caller and mouth call has proven to be the most effective tactic. I will be interested to see how a group that has been put under pressure will behave later in the season. I've used a owl decoy that I have and a few black foam 3 D crow decoys along with my PM4 Johnny Stewart with some crow call chips in it along with the Fox Pro FX3 unit with some crow calls to get them to come over my house and dive bomb the owl decoy. I put the owl decoy out in the back yard under some 15 years old maple trees and knew that crows hate owls and will violently attack them during the day light hours. Owls will kill the crows in their roosts at night so the crows will mob any owl they can see and catch in the daylight.
I was thinking about going out and doing some owl hunting here in Warrick County. We have a few flocks that roam around this county. I have access to my neighbors Remington Model 870 Wing Master that he lets me keep at my house and use. I also have his semi auto Remington 12 gage but I'm not allowed to use that one to hunt with. But the Model 870 is a great pump 12 gage shotgun and I've killed a few doves with it a few years ago. I use to own and use a similar shotgun when I was younger and use to hunt ducks, geese, squirrels and rabbits with that Model 870 WingMaster shotgun. I sold it when I got married as I needed some money at the time and had not hunted for a few years. I wish now that I had kept it. But it's all good now that I have access to a newer model of the same gun. This new one has a ventilated rib on the top of the barrel and I love how that helps with the aiming.
KIND of ILLEGAL to kill birds of prey! |
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Post by moose1am on Jul 6, 2014 22:17:01 GMT -5
Crows are NOT birds of Prey. But you are right, it's illegal to kill some birds of prey like Bald Eagles and other hawks.
But you are mistaken if you think that shooting Crows is the same as shooting birds of prey. If you are going to chastise someone you should know about what you are saying.
You comment makes you look like you don't know what a "Bird of Prey" really is. And that's a shame.
I've used a owl decoy that I have and a few black foam 3 D crow decoys along with my PM4 Johnny Stewart with some crow call chips in it along with the Fox Pro FX3 unit with some crow calls to get them to come over my house and dive bomb the owl decoy. I put the owl decoy out in the back yard under some 15 years old maple trees and knew that crows hate owls and will violently attack them during the day light hours. Owls will kill the crows in their roosts at night so the crows will mob any owl they can see and catch in the daylight.
I was thinking about going out and doing some owl hunting here in Warrick County. We have a few flocks that roam around this county. I have access to my neighbors Remington Model 870 Wing Master that he lets me keep at my house and use. I also have his semi auto Remington 12 gage but I'm not allowed to use that one to hunt with. But the Model 870 is a great pump 12 gage shotgun and I've killed a few doves with it a few years ago. I use to own and use a similar shotgun when I was younger and use to hunt ducks, geese, squirrels and rabbits with that Model 870 WingMaster shotgun. I sold it when I got married as I needed some money at the time and had not hunted for a few years. I wish now that I had kept it. But it's all good now that I have access to a newer model of the same gun. This new one has a ventilated rib on the top of the barrel and I love how that helps with the aiming.
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Post by steve46511 on Jul 6, 2014 22:23:50 GMT -5
Crows are NOT birds of Prey. But you are right, it's illegal to kill some birds of prey like Bald Eagles and other hawks.
But you are mistaken if you think that shooting Crows is the same as shooting birds of prey. If you are going to chastise someone you should know about what you are saying.
You comment makes you look like you don't know what a "Bird of Prey" really is. And that's a shame.
KIND of ILLEGAL to kill birds of prey! Unless I am mistaken, Moose....he is referring to the " owl hunting " that is underlined. I kind of figured it was misspoke..? God Bless |
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Post by deadeer on Jul 7, 2014 0:41:13 GMT -5
Moose1am, please refer to the bold and underlined words of the quoted paragraph taken from YOUR post. Your words, not mine. I am aware of which is which.
Jay
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Post by moose1am on Jul 8, 2014 12:17:14 GMT -5
Moose1am, please refer to the bold and underlined words of the quoted paragraph taken from YOUR post. Your words, not mine. I am aware of which is which. Jay Thanks Jay. I did men to say Crow Hunting not Owl Hunting. Glad that's straightened out. I just want to make it sure that I was talking about Hunting Crows using an Owl Decoy. 
Sorry for any confusion. I was wondering why he thought I was shooting birds of Prey. One word can change the meaning of the entire post. Geese. I'll have to start proof reading better from now on.
Again sorry for the confusion.
I do like to photograph birds of prey with my camera. I have some great shots of a hawk that landed on my back deck. I got a photo of him eating a dead black bird that was laying in my back yard.
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