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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2012 19:40:36 GMT -5
Not to those who kill qualifying bucks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2012 19:45:43 GMT -5
Oh, I'm quite sure you are correct about that.
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Post by lugnutz on Sept 24, 2012 19:51:24 GMT -5
Does these highly respected "clubs" allow deer that's been harvested at an outfitter? F
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Post by greghopper on Sept 24, 2012 19:52:25 GMT -5
That's the part that is silly. The lack of symmetry is already reflected in the gross score because the buck scores less on one side of his rack than the other. Yet, someone, way back when, decided we needed to penalize the score further by taking inches away from the score because one side scored less than the other. That us the double jeopardy aspect of net scores. It is just silly. The lack of symmmetry is why there is a non-typical Category.... Read this from B&C on the "HISTORY OF THE RECORDS PROGRAM" www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_history.asp?area=bgRecords
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 24, 2012 20:37:09 GMT -5
alright you know what...Timex..just tell me what you want me to think and say.
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Post by elmo on Sept 24, 2012 21:05:51 GMT -5
a leaner in horseshoes counts and is really a miss, and 2nd to 43rd place get points in nascar.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 24, 2012 21:17:42 GMT -5
As for the question of the thread, I tend to think that hunters talk about deer in a "gross score" context. I think the only guys who could estimate a net score are those who have spent years in the field with whitetail and years hunting with the intent of surpassing the rules of the particular club they like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2012 21:32:40 GMT -5
I thought the non typical category was for racks with non typical points. Do they not deduct points for lack of symmetry on non typical racks too?
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Post by windingwinds on Sept 24, 2012 22:43:41 GMT -5
Neither gross nor net, it's a buck with points. If you go out west, it's points on side, example 3 x 3. Gross and net is for those who want their deer in a book. Some of us don't.
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Post by schoolmaster on Sept 24, 2012 22:55:46 GMT -5
I'm confused, I thought that it took 170 net typical to be a "Booner"
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Post by sakorifle on Sept 25, 2012 3:32:59 GMT -5
Billy, are you saying that men judge women by what thy look like? Don't they go by weight alone(meat)? Say a lady has one eye and 4 ears, do you think her chances are as good as a beauty contest contestant??
DEAR TIMEX hehe firstly i believe there is someone for everyone and no doubt someone would find that lady attractive perhaps not in that particular competition i admit that.
But i have a valid point certainly with my species of deer a lot of points can be lost because the marker does not like the way it looks, in fact i myself has seen gold medal heads that in my personal opinion were real ugly and certainly not typical, The head i have saved is a bronze medal anyone can tell that. but i wont encourage them by having it marked. Strange chap i may be but that's me. regards Billy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 4:25:28 GMT -5
I'm confused, I thought that it took 170 net typical to be a "Booner" T. 160 gets honorable mention for one year. 170 makes the all time records and your entry into the book. NT its 185 and 195
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 4:34:52 GMT -5
I thought the non typical category was for racks with non typical points. Do they not deduct points for lack of symmetry on non typical racks too? You can have it scored both T and NT if its good enogh. On a NT you get a gross T number than add the total of the adnormal points. Example I know of one that scores NT 181 7/8" and/or 170 1/8" T www.buckmanager.com/2008/01/16/typical-and-nontypical-white-tailed-antlers/
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 25, 2012 6:06:26 GMT -5
Gross.
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Post by woodmaster on Sept 25, 2012 10:58:30 GMT -5
Gross.
If he grows it then it should be counted.
I'm not a big fan of the inside spread being included.
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Post by steiny on Sept 25, 2012 12:12:27 GMT -5
Although the results may not always be to everyone's liking, B&C is pretty much the most accepted scoring system and whitetails are just one species they deal with. No need to reinvent a scoring system to accommodate a few.
Give B &C some credit. The guys that started that organization did (and still do) some very good things for the hunting community and wildlife.
Just because that buck doesn't beat out Milo's buck doesn't mean it's not a darned impressive animal, and it will still rank quite well in the record books. The owner apparently is just cheesed off because he can't get that #1 position and the fame and benefits that go along with #1.
I guess if someone doesn't want to play by B&C's rules they don't need to play. Or enter it in the buckmaster system and see how much fame that gets them?
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 25, 2012 13:09:28 GMT -5
If you hunt whitetail deer for "FAME", then you are really missing out on what hunting is all about. I entered a couple p & y buck's I took when I was in my 20's, now i'm in my 40's and have killed 4 more that would qualify for p & y and 2 for Hoosier big buck, but I havn't entered them in any book's. Paying someone to put my name in a book just isn't that important to me anymore. I just like to hunt mature deer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 13:10:09 GMT -5
Give B &C some credit. The guys that started that organization did (and still do) some very good things for the hunting community and wildlife. I agree. Teddy Roosevelt was instrumental in getting that club started and they had an awful lot to do with bringing hunting to where it is today and cleaning the ugly stain left by the market hunters. I am not sure how much they do now, but I know they do promote fair chase and that is a good thing. I have nothing against the Boone and Crockett Club or the Pope and Young Club. They are both fine organizations with rich histories. I just don't like net scores.
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