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Post by featherduster on Apr 21, 2012 6:12:02 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Apr 21, 2012 8:00:36 GMT -5
This actually happened a year before (2009) the deer incident in California which was in 2010.
Judging from the news report, it seems that he wounded a bear, didn't recover it and actually killed a different one.
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Post by swilk on Apr 21, 2012 8:58:06 GMT -5
Two game law convictions in two years.
Yep....ol Ted sure is an asset to our cause.
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Post by 36fan on Apr 24, 2012 21:13:24 GMT -5
Sounds like a BS law. He shot at an animal, did not make a fatal shot, and went hunting again. Becasue he drew blood on the first bear, it counted for his tag. Then when he shot and killed a bear to fill his tag, it was an illegal kill. Out of ignorance, I would've done the same thing. Seems as the guides who are supposed to know the local hunting laws should share some blame in this one.
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Post by dbd870 on Apr 25, 2012 4:22:31 GMT -5
Sure does - I'd not spend the $$$ to do a bear hunt up there with that nosense in place.
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Post by firstwd on Apr 25, 2012 8:03:19 GMT -5
Sure does - I'd not spend the $$$ to do a bear hunt up there with that nosense in place. This is actually how our hunting regulations work if you follow them to the letter, they just aren't enforced that way. The only ones I've seen enforced that way are the Federal Waterfowl regulations.
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Post by trapperdave on Apr 25, 2012 8:17:51 GMT -5
it isnt the guides job to inform you of the laws, ignorance is no excuse I always said Ted couldnt hunt his way out of a paper bag once you took away his bait and high fences
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Post by gumbootbill on Apr 25, 2012 21:31:46 GMT -5
I never did feel the "Blood Brother cosmic connection"... A little far out there for me.
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Post by dbd870 on Apr 26, 2012 4:25:07 GMT -5
Sure does - I'd not spend the $$$ to do a bear hunt up there with that nosense in place. This is actually how our hunting regulations work if you follow them to the letter, they just aren't enforced that way. The only ones I've seen enforced that way are the Federal Waterfowl regulations. I'll need an IC or IAC cite please.
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Post by firstwd on Apr 26, 2012 8:55:54 GMT -5
This is actually how our hunting regulations work if you follow them to the letter, they just aren't enforced that way. The only ones I've seen enforced that way are the Federal Waterfowl regulations. I'll need an IC or IAC cite please. Give me some time to dig.
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Post by dbd870 on Apr 26, 2012 9:38:34 GMT -5
No problem
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Post by firstwd on Apr 26, 2012 10:24:32 GMT -5
This is actually how our hunting regulations work if you follow them to the letter, they just aren't enforced that way. The only ones I've seen enforced that way are the Federal Waterfowl regulations. I'll need an IC or IAC cite please. Well it appears that I don't search code as well as I thought. I can't find the code matching what Mt friends in Green have always told me. I'm going to have to go ask the boss man and out resident ICO for a little assistance and clarification.
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Post by featherduster on Apr 26, 2012 17:16:20 GMT -5
firstwd: are yoy confussing this with the law regarding want and waste with requires hunters to make every effort possible to recover a wounded animal (waterfowl) before attempting to bag enother.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 17:36:20 GMT -5
Wanton Waste law in Indiana is vague and would not apply to this situation.
"It is illegal to kill or cripple any wild animal without making a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal to include in your daily bag limit. It is illegal, however, to enter private property without permission to retrieve downed game. Before hunting, individuals must make sure they have permission to track game on land adjoining their hunting area."
BTW-Ted was not guided on this hunt, he may have had a facilitator that set up the hunt, but he was not guided. Black bears are one of the animals that can be hunted in Alaska without a guide, and he was on Federal land. So, he was on his own and should have been aware of the game laws, but wasn't according to him anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 18:11:32 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Apr 26, 2012 22:13:14 GMT -5
firstwd: are yoy confussing this with the law regarding want and waste with requires hunters to make every effort possible to recover a wounded animal (waterfowl) before attempting to bag enother. Possibly. To tell the truth, I've been trying to memorize Code for about 4 months and my head hurts thinking about it.
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Post by joen on Apr 27, 2012 6:51:17 GMT -5
If we the peuple would care a little less on what celebs were doing and put that energy on what our polititions were doing we probably would not have the mess we have now.
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Post by firstwd on Apr 27, 2012 14:29:52 GMT -5
I'll need an IC or IAC cite please. Well it appears that I don't search code as well as I thought. I can't find the code matching what Mt friends in Green have always told me. I'm going to have to go ask the boss man and out resident ICO for a little assistance and clarification. From Morrison: It is the same with the all game animals. IC 14-22-10-7 Effort to retrieve crippled or killed wild animals Sec. 7. A person may not kill or cripple a wild animal without making a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal and include the animal in the person's daily bag limit. As added by P.L.1-1995, SEC.15.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 15:36:14 GMT -5
Posted it yesterday, Not the same as what Alaska has in this case.
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Post by ff1126 on Apr 27, 2012 22:03:49 GMT -5
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