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Post by lugnutz on Nov 16, 2011 12:11:06 GMT -5
This is was on my Harmonie Park 8pt, 73 yards, using a 44 Mag, 225gr FTX This is the entry hole,  And the exit,  None of the 3 deer I shot yesterday traveled more than 15 yards after the shot. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 12:13:57 GMT -5
You trying to keep up with Jr. or what?
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Post by 36fan on Nov 16, 2011 12:15:47 GMT -5
Got any pictures of how the exterior looked?
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 16, 2011 13:08:48 GMT -5
done been skinned sry.
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Post by jordanffemt on Nov 16, 2011 15:52:18 GMT -5
Did u find much blood? How far did he run? Ive never got much blood out of my 44. Just wondering.
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Post by HillBillyJeff on Nov 16, 2011 18:24:19 GMT -5
Nice. I thought about hunting with the 44 mag rifle, but my slug gun does a lot more damage. Might rethink that next season.
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Post by Decatur on Nov 16, 2011 19:25:08 GMT -5
Grats!
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Post by lon371 on Nov 16, 2011 20:19:31 GMT -5
Have you shot any 240 xtp's to compare? just curious. I have heard good reviews on different 240's so we started with them. Have not had a deer in front of the gun yet. :[
Lonny
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Post by parson on Nov 16, 2011 20:26:36 GMT -5
I use 240 gr. xtp in muzzle loader and have gotten pretty impressive results.
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Post by lon371 on Nov 16, 2011 21:34:30 GMT -5
I use 240 gr. xtp in muzzle loader and have gotten pretty impressive results. Hmm theres an idea. My just give them a whirl. Lonny |
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Post by twoshot on Nov 17, 2011 1:16:34 GMT -5
I double lunged a big doe Saturday morning with a Hornady 240 XTP out of an Encore with a 24 inch barrel. The load chrono'ed 1790 fps at 10 feet. Complete pass through, the deer went 15 yards. I have always had complete pass throughs with xtp's with both handgun and PCR.
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Post by firehawk1 on Nov 17, 2011 21:20:52 GMT -5
Did u find much blood? How far did he run? Ive never got much blood out of my 44. Just wondering. Humm... I've always had a good blood trail using the .44 mag on deer. None have gone far though. IMO, It's like the .44 mag was created for deer hunting. Here are 2 separate trees a doe ran by before she dropped after being hit with Hornady .44 mag LeveRevolution round last year.   |
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Post by troutline on Nov 17, 2011 22:08:03 GMT -5
I reload the 300 GR xtp's and they go through no matter where you hit them.
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Post by Ronnie Smith on Nov 18, 2011 9:21:45 GMT -5
Looks just like the ones I am dressing. Does a fine job at taking them down. Not had to track more then 40 yards to find them after the shot. They usually are down within 15-20 yards of the shot.
Couple of my buddies have the same results from the 44 mags.
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Post by southernjohn on Nov 18, 2011 11:50:51 GMT -5
I double lunged a big doe Saturday morning with a Hornady 240 XTP out of an Encore with a 24 inch barrel. The load chrono'ed 1790 fps at 10 feet. Complete pass through, the deer went 15 yards. I have always had complete pass throughs with xtp's with both handgun and PCR. I am not too much into guns for deer hunting but I wouldn't think you would want a complete passthrough with a bullet. I thought the idea was for the bullet to expend all of its energy into the vitals of the target. Like hollow point mushrooming and fragmentation. Am I wrong on this? Does a gun hunter want a passthrough? |
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Post by barton174 on Nov 18, 2011 12:26:20 GMT -5
I double lunged a big doe Saturday morning with a Hornady 240 XTP out of an Encore with a 24 inch barrel. The load chrono'ed 1790 fps at 10 feet. Complete pass through, the deer went 15 yards. I have always had complete pass throughs with xtp's with both handgun and PCR. I am not too much into guns for deer hunting but I wouldn't think you would want a complete passthrough with a bullet. I thought the idea was for the bullet to expend all of its energy into the vitals of the target. Like hollow point mushrooming and fragmentation. Am I wrong on this? Does a gun hunter want a passthrough? Had a big discussion about this last year, in the ML forum, and there are 2 schools of thought... It's a question of whether it's better for them to drop quicker (bigger holes in vitals, more tissue damage, etc) or have 2x the blood trail to follow... The "out" wounds usually bleed more than the "in" wounds... Mike |
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Post by southernjohn on Nov 18, 2011 15:39:10 GMT -5
I am not too much into guns for deer hunting but I wouldn't think you would want a complete passthrough with a bullet. I thought the idea was for the bullet to expend all of its energy into the vitals of the target. Like hollow point mushrooming and fragmentation. Am I wrong on this? Does a gun hunter want a passthrough? Had a big discussion about this last year, in the ML forum, and there are 2 schools of thought... It's a question of whether it's better for them to drop quicker (bigger holes in vitals, more tissue damage, etc) or have 2x the blood trail to follow... The "out" wounds usually bleed more than the "in" wounds... Mike Ah. Kind of like the "arrow left sticking in the deer to wallow away at vitals or passthrough to bleed" argument. Well, with an arrow, I am sure I am right, you want a passthrough. With bullets though, I think I would take the knockdown power over an exit would. |
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 18, 2011 16:21:55 GMT -5
Im sure there is no absolute correct answere for that question. But i willsay this tho, a bullet hung in the hide is doing the hunter absolutely no good. Also with just an entry only wound, on a marginal shot isn't going to leave much of a blood trail, and unless you can actually watch the deer go down, the recovery rate will be substantially less.
Just my thoughts...
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Post by steve46511 on Nov 19, 2011 7:53:52 GMT -5
Always a fun subject and even within my own thoughts I find pros and cons for both sides.
NORMALLY with the deer I've shot with a gun (mostly 54 cal ML, a few shotgun) the deer dont go far. 40 yards is about max till THIS year. (80-90? yards). Half are down at the shot where I normally hit, pass through or not. Still and advocate of large diameter and HEAVY bullets for hunting the ranges normal to IN.
Interestingly......I have FEW bow kills (about 35) go further, pass through or not. Average, not max, comes in around 40 yards. Lots not that far though.
With a firearm I AIM to take bones out. Common sense just shows me that they CANT run far without shoulders and is true with a passthrough. In area, it's about mandatory so I GET the deer....not someone else.
The angle of the dangle only got one shoulder, one lung this year, no pass though....so went a bit further but brown and down in 8 seconds or so, falling the first time 40 yards out, into the corn field and down again.
While surprised at this one a bit taken with a shotgun.........I hardly ever take a deer with a bow that doesn't continue to amaze me how fast they go down with a really sharp head (hand sharpened.....not factory).
COME OOOOOOON............"new to me" recurve...get here NOW...the woods AWAITS!
Put em where they live..........and they will go down.
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Post by duff on Nov 19, 2011 9:32:45 GMT -5
...Put em where they live..........and they will go down. Doesn't matter what you use this is always true! |
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