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Post by gobblerstopper on May 31, 2011 20:34:35 GMT -5
Matt, since you bring up the tent blind hunters, why does a guy that is perfectly capable of walking around the woods to hunt turkeys need a tent blind when he has a bow?
I understand if you are older, disabled or only have access to a small plot of land, but aren't most FWA's large enough to go to birds?
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Post by mattfinney on May 31, 2011 22:03:08 GMT -5
A lot of bowhunters use a tent blind to help conceal the movement associated with drawing a bow?
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Post by turkeyscout on Jun 1, 2011 6:35:18 GMT -5
I'd move it earlier in the whole state. this is what i would like also! eariler one week...no zones,.................turkey scout
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 6:50:49 GMT -5
Yesterday at 5:28am, Matt Finney wrote:
How would it mess up the season for the majority of the turkey hunters?
I assume that you're talking about archery hunters putting too much pressure on the birds and making them call shy before the gun hunters get a chance?
1. That wouldn't affect the majority, because the majority doesn't hunt public land. Private land gun-only hunters might actually benefit, as archery hunters on adjacent properties push birds onto their property.
2. If you are talking about public land, then shouldn't we prohibit mushroom hunting prior to turkey season? Take Fairbanks Landing FWA (where I shot my bird this season) for example. The weekends leading up to turkey season, there were easily over 100 mushroom hunters in there, while turkey hunters are restricted to about 20 or so. Do you really think 20 bowhunters sitting in tent blinds, will disturb the birds more than a 100 mushroom hunters combing the woods?
Public or private makes no difference/ Turkeys don't need to be called to, bumped, spooked, shot at and missed or wounded PRIOR to the opening day that the majority of hunters will be particapating in. Mushrom hunters don't use a call to call them in. Besides, I would not support a special hunt for guys that are for the most part not supporting other user groups in prusuit of expanded oppurtunity. Paybacks are hell, but that's just me. Maybe the IBA will agree to push for your idea with all those members they have and new ones that signed up yesterday.
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 1, 2011 10:30:11 GMT -5
A lot of bowhunters use a tent blind to help conceal the movement associated with drawing a bow? Thats weird ! Isn't that what MAKES a bowhunter......drawing in the presence of game?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 1, 2011 10:41:39 GMT -5
A lot of bowhunters use a tent blind to help conceal the movement associated with drawing a bow? Thats weird !
Isn't that what MAKES a bowhunter......drawing in the presence of game?LOL...I was just waiting and biting my tongue on a reply on that one.. The seemingly biggest complaint that some bowhunters have against crossbows is "crossbowers don't have to draw in the presence of game".. In the meantime they are 25' up a tree with an 80+% let off compound or hiding/drawing their bows in a "tent blind". Hmmmm.... Now don't get me wrong,. I do not see anything wrong with trying to keep a critter from spotting you. I just don't like to see glass house dwellers throwing rocks at other folks.. .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 11:46:31 GMT -5
Got a good point there....outlaw blinds except for old guys and cripples.
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 1, 2011 11:55:17 GMT -5
On another note, I really don't see much difference in what yardage I would shoot at a turkey either with a bow or a shotgun.
30 to 40 yards is about all I trust my shotgun at when turkey hunting.........30 or so yards with my compound bow and about the same with a crossbow.
And oh by the way, I use a tent blind no matter what weapon I am useing while turkey hunting.
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 1, 2011 12:12:36 GMT -5
It's pointless to argue with you guys. You care more about trying to win arguments, than being honest with yourselves.
If you were to be truthful to yourself, you would understand that most gun hunters want them inside of 40, while most bow hunters want them inside of 20. The shotgun is also MUCH more forgiving when trying to shoot through foliage.
As far as tent blinds go, I'll use them, but if they were banned....I wouldn't sweat it.
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Post by gobblerstopper on Jun 1, 2011 12:29:40 GMT -5
It's pointless to argue with you guys. You care more about trying to win arguments, than being honest with yourselves. If you were to be truthful to yourself, you would understand that most gun hunters want them inside of 40, while most bow hunters want them inside of 20. The shotgun is also MUCH more forgiving when trying to shoot through foliage. As far as tent blinds go, I'll use them, but if they were banned....I wouldn't sweat it. Matt, thanks for answering. Not really arguing, just curious. You talk about the crossbow ruining archery, but yet many ol' timers feel the same way about the tent blind and turkey hunting. You kind of preach the "traditional" values that you have for deer, but then turn around and practice what most would consider the "crossbow" of turkey hunting. Hunting out of a tent blind. Just wondered why it was ok to "ruin" one sport, but not the other? Me, I'm all for killing turkeys. Doesn't really matter how it gets done. I've filmed several hunts, took several youths and shot one bird out of a blind myself. Even bought a new blind for this spring that I took out of the bag once. It does make it pretty easy. I mean, turkeys aren't that smart to start with. They do have a brain slightly bigger than a marble. Most of the time you can't run them away without getting out of the blind. Btw, most gun hunters want turkeys inside of 30 yards. In most cases it's the new generation of turkey guns that say it's ok if they're inside of 40 or 50 in some cases. Very few bowhunters are going to pass up a shot on a gobbler at 20 yards. I don't know why anyone would shoot through foliage for a turkey either. That's usually found somewhere in the accident report when someone gets shot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 12:33:31 GMT -5
I've always shot my turkeys with archery equipment at 40 yds. + except for the one I killed with a x-bow. If your good, you can head shot them at 40+ The trick is to shot them while they are at distance because they are less alert than when in close.
The only time I use a blind with gun or archery is when I'm with a youth hunter who hasn't learned to sit still yet.
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Post by HillBillyJeff on Aug 13, 2011 19:20:35 GMT -5
I don't get this whole blind versus no blind thing. I have always hunted them with a shotgun in the spring and never used a blind. My last bird I shot I was on one knee in a picked bean field when I shot.
I hunt deer with a bow from an elevated stand, just like I do when firearm season arrives. Its called out smarting the game. Its about all we can do. Can't outrun them, see them, smell them, or out hear them.
My county is archery only in the fall. So I went out and bought a blind. I have seen birds the last two archery seasons for deer fly down into a picked field and go over to the ditch by a big cottonwood tree. Sure I could try to get the draw on them, but why? It's about getting the bird isn't it? I'd rather have the bird in the freezer than be ashamed that I shot it out of a blind, which I wouldn't be. Plus you don't get rained on as much.
As far as distance, I won't take a shot over 20 on a bird with my bow, and I am not shooting at their head either. I ain't that good and I don't want to chase wounded game, I hate that worse than a clean miss.
As far as zones go, the birds do seem to be more active earlier. I wouldn't be apposed to a week earlier season for everyone. No zones like they have for squirrels. Which was 26 in Lafayette, not 70 in Indy. I have bagged a bird all three years I have hunted, so I am fine with the duration.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 10:25:37 GMT -5
Yes Indiana should have Turkey Hunting Zones.
There is a big difference between early and mid April in far southern Indiana versus that time of year in northern Indiana.
It simply is thicker and greener faster in southern Indiana, than it is in northern Indiana.
South of Interstate 70 should open at least 5 to 7 days earlier each year than north of Interstate 70.IMO
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Post by hosscat50 on Feb 1, 2012 21:40:13 GMT -5
I hunt in warrick co. And it seems that we miss out on some good hunting starting our season so late. I don't know how it is up north but around here those birds are hitting it hard a solid week or two before we can get out there. It's frustrating to see birds strutting like crazy while I am out scouting just to have them locked down come April 25th
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 18:01:55 GMT -5
I hunt in warrick co. And it seems that we miss out on some good hunting starting our season so late. I don't know how it is up north but around here those birds are hitting it hard a solid week or two before we can get out there. It's frustrating to see birds strutting like crazy while I am out scouting just to have them locked down come April 25th And just across the Ohio River here in Kentucky the season opens a few weeks earlier than it does in southern Indiana. fw.ky.gov/2012springturkeyandsquirrelseasons.asp
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Post by featherduster on Feb 11, 2012 6:50:25 GMT -5
When this topic first came out I voted no with no response however after thinking about it more it would make sense to have a split state since the southern part of the state warms up much quicker than the northern part. Early season toms can be hard to call in when they get henned up but once the hens start to nest toms are a bit easier to work.
And who cares if a person wants to walk and stalk or just sit in a pop up blind. The older you get you look for ways to be comfortable while spending the day in the field.
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Post by daneowner on Feb 11, 2012 12:29:16 GMT -5
I voted no, but would like to see the turkey season lengthen by opening a week earlier in the whole state. Like others have said, I can't see where more hens would be killed because of an earlier start date. But gosh, if a hunter would mistake a hen that week, they probably would a week later also.
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Post by huntingman on Feb 19, 2012 13:48:37 GMT -5
Any good archery hunter can hit a turkey at 40 yards away, that's the max range for the average shotgunner? I don't see a difference.
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Post by tenring on Feb 19, 2012 14:04:38 GMT -5
Got a good point there....outlaw blinds except for old guys and cripples. Nice picture you paint, real nice.
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Post by racktracker on Feb 19, 2012 14:27:25 GMT -5
Got a good point there....outlaw blinds except for old guys and cripples. Nice picture you paint, real nice. I think he was saying that with his tongue planted firmly in the cheek.
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