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Post by tickman1961 on May 11, 2011 12:00:03 GMT -5
I go for those buck grey squirrels as well...... ;D "the future of whitetail deer hunting for all of us down to earth real world  kickers looks mighty damn good. Tho we think its aok & cute for all the hoopla about antler size & managing herds for big bucks by those who enjoy it all, we could give a ratsass about book. we like to hunt kill & eat deer. theres more deer than ever. cannot wait for the sacred fall huntseason to erupt!! I smell November & backstraps galore!! perfect! " - Ted Nugent |
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Post by speckle on May 11, 2011 12:54:54 GMT -5
Don't know if I would, I get my does with depredation permits so I have plenty of meat before season starts
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Post by trapperdave on May 11, 2011 13:02:27 GMT -5
shoot does during season and you wouldnt NEED dep permits......but then that would cut into HORN huntin time, eh?
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Post by speckle on May 11, 2011 13:35:12 GMT -5
I shoot enough to fill my freezer, whats wrong with that? And I can also horn hunt with those permits  |
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Post by jjas on May 11, 2011 14:19:20 GMT -5
Like many deer hunters, I want to kill a big buck every now and again, but even if there weren't horns involved I'd still hunt deer as I don't obsess over it (big bucks).
Unfortunately, many of today's deer hunters only care about killing a trophy buck. I've known guys who would screw over their own mothers to have a chance @ killing one too.
It's ridiculous.
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Post by deweydutchmen on May 11, 2011 14:59:57 GMT -5
I don't think a lot of this response is accurate. If you answer honestly, most would not spend thousands per year for a few does in the freezer. Guys wouldn't be actively trying to stop Proposals II and the crossbow expansion if all there was to hunt was does to fill the freezer. Dang, you could kill your limit of does in a few days, why even have 3-4 months of seasons to argue about. It's always been about killing bucks to satisfy the ego, been that way since the caveman days. It's recently been about killing does to balance the herd. Without bucks, the sport would not survive. Spot on!!! |
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Post by windingwinds on May 11, 2011 15:14:35 GMT -5
Perhaps you are asking the wrong board? I was on another board that the call was repeatedly "say no to does" and if you tried to say anything about hunting does you were white trash. I didn't agree so I stopped visiting it.
Another thought is that the out of state tags would drastically drop, because I know they are not paying out of state just for a doe.
There are many that wouldn't hunt if no antlers, but my family isn't one of them.
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Post by trapperdave on May 11, 2011 16:09:29 GMT -5
I shoot enough to fill my freezer, whats wrong with that? And I can also horn hunt with those permits Ive never seen any horns in the summer LOL half grown velvet racks sure. I guess some people are incapaqble of harvesting deer during season with restrictuions in place so they resort to rifles, spotlights and depredation "permits" |
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Post by randolphcounty on May 11, 2011 17:32:02 GMT -5
i wish it would happen. Id have the woods to myself and all the tasty backstrap we could eat. I have plenty of hat racks hangin in the garage. Big racks are cool to see, and I wouldnt pass the opportunity to shoot another. But its NOT why I hunt. Watchin the woods come alive on a nippy Oct/Nov morn is the closest one can get to God without actually goin to meet Him in person IMHO  could not agree more |
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Post by randolphcounty on May 11, 2011 17:56:01 GMT -5
I don't think a lot of this response is accurate. If you answer honestly, most would not spend thousands per year for a few does in the freezer. Guys wouldn't be actively trying to stop Proposals II and the crossbow expansion if all there was to hunt was does to fill the freezer. Dang, you could kill your limit of does in a few days, why even have 3-4 months of seasons to argue about. It's always been about killing bucks to satisfy the ego, been that way since the caveman days. It's recently been about killing does to balance the herd. Without bucks, the sport would not survive. Yep, would end a lot of the arguing and bs..... but kill the sport.... really,........ Some might say the sport will not survive some of the current trends or at least for those who can not afford to spend the thousands of dollars a year you speak of, how long will it be before outfitters and high dollar leases control the lions share of private ground, how long will it be before ALL of the farmers that are nice enough to let you hunt their wood lots, can no longer pass up the money being offered to hunt those trophy bucks, I am not saying trophy bucks are a bad thing, just that too much emphisis on them can be, maybe I am wrong, but have talked to quite a few resident, hard working hunters in the Land of Lincoln, that say I could be on to something.......... if they stopped growing antlers, it would not change the way or how much I hunt at all, I would love it just as much, if not more....... |
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Post by dbd870 on May 12, 2011 4:41:43 GMT -5
I end up needing 2-4 deer depending on the year. I'll take that many, if it is all does that's fine by me. I've had years where that has happened - I hit the number during gun season. Once I hit the number and still have a buck tag I may still go out to see if I don't find a big buck but not nearly as much; my motivation definitely drops off. I'll take that 1.5 yr old 6pt at the end of gun season if I'm behind the curve as well. A big buck is nice, but it's not my main reason to go out.
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Post by speckle on May 12, 2011 8:12:45 GMT -5
I shoot enough to fill my freezer, whats wrong with that? And I can also horn hunt with those permits Ive never seen any horns in the summer LOL half grown velvet racks sure. I guess some people are incapaqble of harvesting deer during season with restrictuions in place so they resort to rifles, spotlights and depredation "permits" I use them in Sept so they do have bone. I kill plenty in season also and donate it |
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Post by duff on May 12, 2011 8:14:23 GMT -5
I don't think a lot of this response is accurate. If you answer honestly, most would not spend thousands per year for a few does in the freezer. Guys wouldn't be actively trying to stop Proposals II and the crossbow expansion if all there was to hunt was does to fill the freezer. Dang, you could kill your limit of does in a few days, why even have 3-4 months of seasons to argue about. It's always been about killing bucks to satisfy the ego, been that way since the caveman days. It's recently been about killing does to balance the herd. Without bucks, the sport would not survive. Much like duck/goose hunters wouldn't spend thousands of dollars a year on leases, boats, decoys, guns because the anters on those suckers are just flat increadible  As Tickman pointed out tree rats and we can kick in doves, quail, pheasants, rabbits, turkey blah blah blah. Just because you and many of your clients only hunt for the antlers doesn't mean you represent society. Honestly most of the people I hunt with and know are more about hunting and less about antlers. I do know a few that would not hunt at all if they didn't have antlers to chase. That's fine with me, they can play with toy trains if or when the lust of antlers burns off as far as I am concerned. |
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Post by duff on May 12, 2011 8:19:57 GMT -5
Ive never seen any horns in the summer LOL half grown velvet racks sure. I guess some people are incapaqble of harvesting deer during season with restrictuions in place so they resort to rifles, spotlights and depredation "permits" I use them in Sept so they do have bone. I kill plenty in season also and donate it Didn't you boycott this site a few years ago? Enjoy your trolling, you seem to catch something every time you post ;D |
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Post by trapperdave on May 12, 2011 8:30:31 GMT -5
im not up on dep laws...but arent dep permits null and void 30 days prior to season?
i.e. can only be used up to august 31
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Post by speckle on May 12, 2011 8:33:25 GMT -5
im not up on dep laws...but arent dep permits null and void 30 days prior to season? i.e. can only be used up to august 31 nope |
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Post by trapperdave on May 12, 2011 8:41:03 GMT -5
"Deer Damage Control Permits.— The deer damage control permit system was adopted by the IDNR in 1987 as a means of giving farmers immediate relief from severe localized deer damage problems by allowing farmers and their designated shooters the ability to remove those deer specifically causing the damage. The objective of deer damage control permit system is to give farmers a tool for preventing additional damage to their crops during that growing season. The system allows landowners to remove deer outside the deer-hunting season in situations where damage from deer exceeds $500 and non-lethal control measures are inadequate. Does are recommended for harvest, and antlers from bucks harvested on a damage permit are required to be surrendered to the appropriate authority" BUT ALL ANTLERS ARE TO BE TURNED IN!!!!!!!!! the rest of the above can be found here... www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-MR_979_Deer_Damage_Control_Program_2009.pdf |
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Post by boonechaser on May 12, 2011 10:12:46 GMT -5
Hmmmm but deer do have antler's so I won't have to wonder. And how did we go from a silly question to a deer depredation thread?  ? Some of you are like 1st grader's in that you have a very short attention span and can't stay on topic.LOL. |
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Post by trapperdave on May 12, 2011 10:16:41 GMT -5
guilty  |
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Post by boonechaser on May 12, 2011 10:24:30 GMT -5
Not busting anybody's ball's. Just adding a little humor from time to time.
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? Some of you are like 1st grader's in that you have a very short attention span and can't stay on topic.LOL.