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Post by dwhunting on Apr 10, 2007 13:16:01 GMT -5
Second one with a bow is a great idea.
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 10, 2007 14:09:09 GMT -5
I would go for a Archery only 2nd. tag for the spring. That I could live with.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Apr 10, 2007 14:45:56 GMT -5
Not a bad idea at all if you ask me!
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 13, 2007 7:32:48 GMT -5
I vote YES.....on a county-by-county basis. What are the hunter sucess numbers? Last season it was 26%, and that number stays pretty consistant between 25%-30% each season. Your top producing turkey counties are yielding around 500 birds per Spring. IMO, there's no question that the Southern counties have enough birds to support a double-limit. Unless we hunters all the sudden start bagging birds at a 50% rate, the turkey populations will be fine.
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Post by tmarsh83 on Apr 13, 2007 8:59:41 GMT -5
Not enough roosting trees with all those large corn and bean fields in the northern part of the state. Some parts will never have a large flock, some will. Plenty of roosting trees. Lots of good habitat. But natural game migration takes a long time. Noble and Steuben counties are virtually identical, but turkey are still working to get a solid foothold in much of noble county. Give it time.
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Post by brich60 on Apr 13, 2007 10:41:10 GMT -5
I vote no, and I hunt in southern Indiana where seeing a turkey is not an unusual thing anymore, but the numbers just do not support it at this time. Besides you can get two birds a year now, heck you can even shoot a hen now if you want to in the Fall. The regs are liberal enough now, leave them like they are.
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Post by Decatur on Apr 13, 2007 15:16:08 GMT -5
I vote YES.....on a county-by-county basis. What are the hunter sucess numbers? Last season it was 26%, and that number stays pretty consistant between 25%-30% each season. Your top producing turkey counties are yielding around 500 birds per Spring. IMO, there's no question that the Southern counties have enough birds to support a double-limit. Unless we hunters all the sudden start bagging birds at a 50% rate, the turkey populations will be fine. Why not reintroduce the DNR's stocking program first? If there is so many birds down south, why don't we share them around the state rather than let the people that live close kill 2 birds? Not everone has the time or money to be able to drive 3, 4, or 5 hours to hunt turkeys. I would love to be able to turkey hunt around home just like I deer hunt. Anytime I can get away for a few hours is a good time to hunt!
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Post by mullis56 on Apr 13, 2007 17:26:10 GMT -5
That isn't going to happen. The birds aren't going to be as plentiful up north where you live EVER! There isn't the habitat. Decatur - you don't even have time to now, according to an earlier post you made, I live in Indy and drive 2+ hours to hunt them, not a big deal. I think BSU - brings up good points, success rates show that it wouldn't ceate issues with the population where they prosper. There are PLENTY and MEAN PLEANTY of people that ILLEGALLY kill several birds a year, and the population isn't affected. My thought and hope with posting this is that these outlaws wouldn't break the law with this. Maybe, I'm wrong, but I think it is a good idea!
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Post by Decatur on Apr 13, 2007 19:29:42 GMT -5
That isn't going to happen. The birds aren't going to be as plentiful up north where you live EVER! There isn't the habitat. You severly underestimate the turkey! If they can thrive in Kansas, they can thrive in Adams county Indiana! We have the same things Kansas has wood lots, river bottoms, thickets and fields. I'm not saying Adams county could be another Switzerland county, but I do know we could support definate huntable numbers. We may only be a 15 or 20 bird county, and that's enough fo rme! Besides I know there are a few guys raising them and releasing them illegally, and their flocks are growing rapidly.[/quote] Decatur - you don't even have time to now, according to an earlier post you made, My point exactly! If I had them in my back yard I WOULD have time to hunt them. I just don't have the time for the big production that hunting 4 hours away causes. Especially with gas prices the way they are. If I could drive 30-40 miles, I could hunt every morning, but that's not the case. I deer hunt in Jay county now, and there is a LOT of woods down there! I'm sure turkeys could do well there.
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Post by mullis56 on Apr 13, 2007 20:15:22 GMT -5
Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, LMFAO!! I think that most of the planting of turkey's is pretty much done, they may move some up north, but they do well in others areas up north ELKART holds a lot of birds in areas. There are hardly any in Hamilton County where I live so I drive......
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 14, 2007 3:17:47 GMT -5
I'd fall over from fainting if I ever see a gobbler in Hamilton County! One bird killed in '05, none in '06. I'd love to see some gobbler's strutting in downtown Carmel just to see the dumb looks on the people's faces. LOL.
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Post by buster on Apr 14, 2007 12:16:23 GMT -5
We ALREADY have a 2-bird limit....ONE IN THE SPRING AND ONE IN THE FALL!!!!!!!!
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Post by mullis56 on Apr 14, 2007 13:28:13 GMT -5
We ALREADY have a 2-bird limit....ONE IN THE SPRING AND ONE IN THE FALL!!!!!!!! REALLY THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT, I DON'T EVER READ THE RULES AND REGS ;D ;D
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Post by oggie on Apr 14, 2007 14:20:59 GMT -5
I would like to see a archery only season in the spring for a week or two in the spring and a firearm season with a 1 bird limit in each.
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Post by duff on Apr 14, 2007 14:53:00 GMT -5
I'd fall over from fainting if I ever see a gobbler in Hamilton County! One bird killed in '05, none in '06. I'd love to see some gobbler's strutting in downtown Carmel just to see the dumb looks on the people's faces. LOL. Saw a hen in Lawrence about 5 yrs ago, I was heading north on P. Pike, I saw it from a distance and thought another type of bird had been injured as we drove past it there was no mistaking it. Another buddy of mine sent me pics of a tom in Hamilton Co. I know of a few that were released along Madison/Hamilton Co line several yrs ago. So it is possible a few have been sucessful. I don't turkey hunt so I don't have an opinion. too much effort for a 15-20# bird. Kroger's won't limit you unless they have a heck of a deal going!!!!!
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Post by snakeeye on Apr 14, 2007 15:40:12 GMT -5
I think duff is talking about this Carmel strutter: He was not alone either...
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 14, 2007 19:26:14 GMT -5
Amazing pic Snakeeye!!! Very cool.
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