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Post by Flatlander54 on Dec 11, 2010 22:44:38 GMT -5
Picked up a used Mossberg 835 Ulti-Mag 12 ga. today, has 24" ported barrel and shoots up to 3 1/2" shells.  I was told the choke tube wasnt the factory tube. Just wondering if anyone may know what company might have made this tube. Its an extended, ported choke tube, measures .685 according to my calipers. The only markings on it are "Moss 835". I have done several searches online but cannot find this particular choke tube any where. Thanks for any help.  |
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Post by chicobrownbear on Dec 12, 2010 8:04:43 GMT -5
It looks like a late model X Factor choke. I could be wrong though.
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 12, 2010 8:22:48 GMT -5
Is there any notches cut into the top? Looks like it might be a Mossberg pro factor choke?? pro-factor-chokes.com/ |
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 12, 2010 8:23:36 GMT -5
haha sorry what he ^^^^^ said!
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 12, 2010 8:38:30 GMT -5
.685 is roughly a x full choke...
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Post by Flatlander54 on Dec 12, 2010 9:06:25 GMT -5
There are no notches cut in the top for a choke wrench. The barrel stamp says "Accu-Mag choke" but it doesnt look like the Accu-mags, x-factors, or ulti-mags that i looked up.
I found ONE picture of this choke online, but there was no description or maker info on it, it was in a line up of 5 other choke tubes in a general info article on choke tubes with no maker info for any of them, just a picture showing different styles of choke tubes.
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Post by esshup on Dec 12, 2010 11:07:10 GMT -5
.685 is roughly a x full choke... Hmmmmm.......... What would you call a .090" constriction choke? |
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 12, 2010 14:11:34 GMT -5
In a Mossberg 835 an .705 is x full, .690 tukey, .685 x turkey. Ive seen the choke in the picture but cant remember the name. Usually most all chokes carry the manufactures name. Most turkey chokes aren't knurled on the end like that one, they are cut for a choke wrench. h.h.
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Post by Flatlander54 on Dec 12, 2010 14:20:47 GMT -5
Im wondering if its just an older Mossberg choke and they have just changed the appearance of the newer ones?
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 12, 2010 14:38:52 GMT -5
Im wondering if its just an older Mossberg choke and they have just changed the appearance of the newer ones? I dont think so. Mossburg didnt port the turkey chokes until a couple years ago. Ive tried many chokes in my 835 Grand Slam and the .680 Hastings will kill out to 60 yards using 3" Win. #6 or #4, 1 3/4oz lead shot. The .690 Factory choke does very good too. h.h. |
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Post by Flatlander54 on Dec 12, 2010 15:37:34 GMT -5
Beats me...I cant find any thing on the choke tube and I have posted on three different forums, no one seems to know. I guess it dont matter...just bugs me that with the seemingly unlimited resouces of the internet I cant find any info on something...lol.
One things for certain...with the barrel and the choke both being ported, and shooting 3 1/2" shells, this thing will without doubt ring your bell. ;D
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 13, 2010 6:21:13 GMT -5
.685 is roughly a x full choke... Hmmmmm.......... What would you call a .090" constriction choke? .730 - .685 = .045 restriction ;D I'd say a .090 restriction is pretty darn tight ;D |
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Post by Flatlander54 on Dec 13, 2010 7:38:30 GMT -5
A member on another forum identified the choke for me by the way, it seems I have an older Preston Pittman/Star Dot choke tube. From what I understand they are no longer made, and fairly sought after because they seem to pattern very well out of the 835's despite being a cheaper tube. From what I understand Wally Worl used to carry them. Cant wait to run a few different kinds of loads through it.
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 13, 2010 8:26:10 GMT -5
Woot Woot!! Glad you got it figured out!
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Post by esshup on Dec 13, 2010 11:38:19 GMT -5
Glad you got it figured out! I was stumped.
mrfixit, the 835 has a .775" bore. I have a Stan Baker Big Bore Barrel for my 1100 that has an .800" bore (it shoots 12 ga shells).
Finding choke tubes that pattern well for the extreme overborred barrels is a challenge, and not a cheap challenge at that!
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Post by mrfixit on Dec 13, 2010 17:49:50 GMT -5
Holy begeebus That's almost 10 gauge bore {.770} ;D I am aware of the advantages of back/over boring but over boring that much? That's huge! |
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Post by esshup on Dec 13, 2010 21:19:55 GMT -5
Yes, it is a huge bore, and Stan Baker BB is even bigger. It's actually the same diameter of the 12 ga chamber. I can drop a 12 ga shell down the muzzle and it gets hung up on the brass rim.
The advantages are less recoil and more fps due to less internal friction. Standard Factory Win AA handicap trap loads chrono'ed 1325 in the BB barrel. Some wads don't seal the bore, so some testing is required.
Flatlander54, good score on the 835. The choke tubes for it are different enough that I've seen them sit on store shelves for so long they put them on clearance to get rid of them. I've seen some go for as little as $10 each, and they were extended tubes.
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Post by Flatlander54 on Dec 13, 2010 22:00:49 GMT -5
eeshup, thanks. I think I got a decent deal on it, gave $250 for it and it looks nearly brand new, not all beat up like alot of synthetic stocked guns Ive seen. And, the more I read about it the happier I am that I got it...I have yet to read a bad post about the 835 Ulti-Mags...unless you want to count the recoil of the 3 1/2" shells as bad. ;D And most all the owners agree that the Star Dot choke give awesome patterns with most loads tried.
A little barrel cleaning and it was good to go. I"m usually not a fan of thumbhole stocks...but Im thinking of puttin one on the 835, and my reasoning is this.
I dont like the t-holes for a deer gun because Ive had to switch shooting sides several times when deer hunting. But the 835 is going to be a Turkey and Coyote gun, so making enough movement to switch to shooting weak side is out of the question with Turkey and Coyote...without a doubt the two wariest critters you can hunt.
Two weeks out of the year the wife will use it to hunt deer, (gonna get a slug barrel for her) and I can always put the straight stock back on it for her then if she prefers that.
Also going to get some kind of lighted dot scope for it, since the reciever is drilled and tapped and it came with a weaver style base to boot. Just have to find one that will hold up to the recoil of 3 or 3 1/2" loads...might be a tall order there.
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Post by danf on Dec 13, 2010 22:09:16 GMT -5
FWIW, last year I shot a jake shooting weak side. I was in a blind, but weak side is definitely a possibility for turkeys.
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Post by esshup on Dec 13, 2010 22:24:24 GMT -5
Flatlander54, the thumbhole stock is a good choice. It will help mitigate some of the recoil by transferring more to your hand and forearm than a regular stock. You can also add a larger, softer recoil pad to help as well. A thicker pad is better than a thin pad.
As for sights, while not cheap, I can verify that the HoloSights will withstand many, many heavy recoil shots. I have one on a gun that generates 35# of recoil and it hasn't failed me yet in 1,000's of shots. You'll have plenty of eye relief with the red dot sights.
The older aimpoint sights would usually crap out around 1,000 rounds. I have no experience with any of the newer ones on the market except for HoloSights.
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I was told the choke tube wasnt the factory tube. Just wondering if anyone may know what company might have made this tube. 
