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Post by muddyfork on Nov 18, 2010 11:22:40 GMT -5
I opened this email because I thought it might have some useful information, but I found you just used it to get your opinion on a mass email. Just another spam email.
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Post by INDeerhunter on Nov 18, 2010 11:59:07 GMT -5
I got the Hunting Indiana email about the deer rules changes this morning too, I dont see how you think that it is opinion driven email that constitutes calling it SPAM ?
I found it helpful in lettin me know if I want to have any say in what the DNR decides as my deer hunting fate then I need to contact them and let them know my opinion on what can help hunters and the herd alike !
But to each their own and everyone is entitled to an opinion but I highly doubt that the email was sent to impose someone elses opinion on to you !!!
~ INDeerhunter ~
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Nov 18, 2010 12:02:26 GMT -5
If you're getting them then you have your profile set to accept them. It's your choice.
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Post by oldhoyt on Nov 18, 2010 12:32:30 GMT -5
It is exactly what it says it is, good info. regarding what may be a last chance to provide input and an opinion. It is not a mass e-mail, it is an e-mail to board members, all of whom have elected to receive such e-mails and have heard the same info and opinions many times before. If such e-mails irritate you, simply elect not to receive them. What are these boards for anyway, if not to exchange info, ideas and opinions?
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Post by 76chevy on Nov 18, 2010 13:28:34 GMT -5
opt out of the emails if you think they are spam!!
Dont whine about it on here!!
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 18, 2010 14:36:40 GMT -5
"Spam"?
People have the opportunity to opt in or out of any emails generated from Hunting Indiana. Thier choice.
As in the past I have asked the members to contact various organizations to voice their OWN opinions. Be that the DNR, NRCAC or the NRC.
There is no doubt in my mind that a lot of our members DID make their voices heard this last go around. We saw the results. Personally I see that as the right thing to do. For too long we have sat idly by and allowed others to give their input and make decisions for us or even against us.
As far as my opinion - Yep, I've got one. Who hasn't? I stated as such when I said - " My own personal recommendations. You may agree or not and that is OK. Just formulate your own and send them to the addresses above."
The only thing I am suggesting to the members is to contact the DNR with their OWN ideas. Nothing more.
If the members like my ideas, or parts of them, fine. If not that is fine too. JUST GIVE INPUT.
I see this as a our last chance to make an impact.
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 18, 2010 18:25:04 GMT -5
I opened this email because I thought it might have some useful information, but I found you just used it to get your opinion on a mass email. Just another spam email. I suppose "useful information" is a matter of opinion, but if you didn't find it useful just delete it and move on. Whats the big deal?
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Post by INDeerhunter on Nov 18, 2010 18:36:43 GMT -5
Im glad that you sent it out the first time around and I voiced my opinions then to the DNR and now that we all have made a difference I appreciate the reminder about giving MY IDEAS to them in order to hopefully get some GOOD things on the agenda this time around for the deer herd and for all of us hunters ! Guess what I am saying is keep sending me that type info in the future cuz I want to be as much of a part of comin up with ideas to help us continue to hunt and make a difference in what "they" decide as I can ! Thanks for sharing the info and providing the names and contact info for this ! W/O people like you Woody we will never be able to ban together and stick up for what is right and make the differences to the hunting regulations that can make our sport better ! So keep up the good work ! If its "SPAM" Please feel free and please continue to send me the "SPAM" LMAO ! Thanks again for sharing the info ~ INDeerhunter ~
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Post by deerbiskit on Nov 18, 2010 18:51:40 GMT -5
I guess some people don't care about deer hunting and its future.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 18, 2010 19:40:00 GMT -5
I appreciate these updates and reminders.
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Post by JBDiNos on Nov 18, 2010 19:56:53 GMT -5
Yes, I appreciate these updates as well. I appreciate Woody doing all of the work, gathering all of this information and sharing it with us. Thank you Woody.
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Post by kdog8173 on Nov 19, 2010 5:16:05 GMT -5
x3 woody
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Post by Decatur on Nov 19, 2010 7:33:52 GMT -5
I copied and pasted Woody's ideas and attributed them to him and said I supported them. Here is my email response from the DNR:
"Thank you for your comments. The DNR is reviewing the deer hunting rules and will be presenting a new proposal to the Natural Resources Commission early next year."
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Post by muddyfork on Nov 19, 2010 7:59:57 GMT -5
What makes this SPAM is that fact that he put his OPINION in a mass forum member email. His OPINION should not be in it at all. Well unless he wants to send spam. Don’t believe me, just look it up on Webster. I don’t make up the definition of SPAM! “spam ………To post irrelevant or inappropriate messages to one or more Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, or other messaging system in deliberate or accidental violation of netiquette." "The most important rule of netiquette is "Think before you post". If what you intend to post will not make a positive contribution to the newsgroup and be of interest to several readers, don't post it! Personal messages to one or two individuals should not be posted to newsgroups, use private e-mail instead." www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/spamwww.webster-dictionary.org/definition/netiquette
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Post by JBDiNos on Nov 19, 2010 8:02:49 GMT -5
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Post by muddyfork on Nov 19, 2010 8:12:31 GMT -5
I already did. I'm just calling it what it is. If you don't like that just let this topic go to bottom of this forum. I like the email updates. I just don't what his opinion to cloud the facts.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 19, 2010 9:01:15 GMT -5
" "The most important rule of netiquette is "Think before you post". If what you intend to post will not make a positive contribution to the newsgroup and be of interest to several readers, don't post it! Personal messages to one or two individuals should not be posted to newsgroups, use private e-mail instead." According to your definition above, the email does not constitute "spam" because it is of interest to several readers. I might be wrong, but it looks like you are the only one who has stated it wasn't of interest of and hence called it spam.
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Post by huxbux on Nov 19, 2010 9:11:46 GMT -5
" "The most important rule of netiquette is "Think before you post". If what you intend to post will not make a positive contribution to the newsgroup and be of interest to several readers, don't post it! Personal messages to one or two individuals should not be posted to newsgroups, use private e-mail instead." According to your definition above, the email does not constitute "spam" because it is of interest to several readers. I might be wrong, but it looks like you are the only one who has stated it wasn't of interest of and hence called it spam. Beat me to it. Woody's comment seemed pretty relevant to the subject which also is a disqualifier under the definition muddyfork posted. "Think before you post"...........indeed.
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Post by voodoofire1 on Nov 19, 2010 9:13:23 GMT -5
well Just go over to that other site and see how you like that.... and speaking of that, woody you sure ed of the power that be over there, he throws a hissy fit every time someone mentions your name, well I applaud you!!!!! I once heard a very truthful statement that only a fool makes up his/her mind without hearing all the facts...well I use to spend quite a bit of time here, but for the last year or so I've given the other site a fair bit of time, well, in my humble opinion, the truth as it is, is stated here, the "truth" as another person sees it is shared there, correction or confrontation of that individual leads to a cold shoulder,and censorship, not the common debate that should arise from such matters as I've experienced here, Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side, but sometimes when you get close enough you realize although it looks very good it's really astroturf.........I prefer to get my truth from someone and a site who is not in the pocket of the dnr.......Great site Woody ,keep up the good work, we sportsman of Indiana deserve the truth as it really is,Thanks
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Post by gobblerstopper on Nov 19, 2010 9:21:10 GMT -5
The email didn't bother me and the thought of it being spam never entered my mind. If Woody would have suggested everyone use his opinions instead of formulating their own, and stating that in the email, then it would be different.
I guess it depends which side of the proposals you are on if you consider it a positive contribution or not. If you were in the minority on the last proposals, the last thing you want is more people (like most members here that were in the majority against them) aware of the process and involved.
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