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Post by parson on Oct 6, 2010 10:40:04 GMT -5
A thread in another area got me to thinking about this. When I lived out east I hunted with a .243, and I regularly practiced at 200 yards (which is really a pretty long ways), and was very comfortable shooting at that distance.
Since being back in Indy for the last 17 years, I've shot slug guns and muzzleloaders, until the PCRs were legal. My range time has been limited to 100 yards, and I don't know how my guns will shoot beyond that range, so that's probably my personal limit.
That being said, I don't believe that I've shot a deer much over 50 yards in Indiana.
What are you comfortable with? And, do you practice at that distance?
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Post by swilk on Oct 6, 2010 11:02:59 GMT -5
Farthest I have shot a deer was 212 yards with a Savage MZ.
I shoot out to 300 yards off a bench and would confidently take a shot to 250 or so on a deer while hunting with either my Savage or my 358.
Deer I killed last year with the 358 was about 10 yards.
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Post by drs on Oct 6, 2010 11:13:04 GMT -5
The Maximum distance I shot a Deer was back in 1996 @ 378 yards in Kentucky using a 7 X 57 m/m rifle. I much rather take my Deer at < 100 yards though.
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Post by Shelby County Switchback on Oct 6, 2010 12:30:10 GMT -5
I used my T/C a few years ago and dropped a Doe at 168 yards. She dropped like a sack of hammers.
But I am getting ready to invest in a new Marlin 44 mag lever action and was told that I should be comfortable at 250 to 300 yards...
Looking forward to it.
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Post by drs on Oct 6, 2010 12:45:45 GMT -5
I used my T/C a few years ago and dropped a Doe at 168 yards. She dropped like a sack of hammers. But I am getting ready to invest in a new Marlin 44 mag lever action and was told that I should be comfortable at 250 to 300 yards... Looking forward to it. A .44 Magnum is more of a short ranged load for shots up to 100 yards & less. Not for over the range of 200 + yards. |
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Post by steve46511 on Oct 6, 2010 13:40:04 GMT -5
X2 what drs indicated. Ive shot deer with a 44mag. 108 was my furthest but have seen others shot out to 125 or so. Works fine but beyond 125 yards....risky. Perfect shot, oh yeah, a little further maybe but JUST my opinion it gets pretty iffy on performance via velocity needed to get the bullet to perform and have more than "enough" energy. I'd call 150 yards absolute MAXimum range with an absolutely open shot in a very accurate gun.
100 yards puts most deer we see in range but there are exceptions to all rules. My furthest was 267 yards but a much bigger round.
This is what I found online and Id have to agree with the numbers in general. Past 100 yards your energy falls rapidly.
44 Remington Mag firing Remington Express 240gr SP (rifle barrel)
Velocity (ft/sec)
Muzzle - 1760
100 yd - 1380
200 yd - 1114
300 yd - 970
Energy (ft. lbs.)
Muzzle - 1650
100 yd - 1015
200 yd - 661
300 yd - 501
Trajectory
50 yd - zero
100 yd - -2.1"
150 yd - -8.7"
200 yd - -21.2"
Just info to help you decide for your own use.
God Bless
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Post by treetop on Oct 6, 2010 14:36:13 GMT -5
My gun will go out to 200 to 225 yards and still be on but thats off a bench not hanging out of a tree myself I try for 125 or less a deer and a sheet of paper are not the same to me.
My bow will go out to 55 or 60 yards again maybe 35 to 40 if its wide open is about what I can do.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 6, 2010 16:16:42 GMT -5
First hand experience tells me someone is telling you wrong. I own a .44 and roll my own handloads for it...pushin them as hard as I can and still maintaining happy groups and the best I can hope for is 125 yards. I have heard some folks say 150 yards but no way 200 plus for deer. I used my T/C a few years ago and dropped a Doe at 168 yards. She dropped like a sack of hammers. But I am getting ready to invest in a new Marlin 44 mag lever action and was told that I should be comfortable at 250 to 300 yards... Looking forward to it. |
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Post by huxbux on Oct 6, 2010 21:37:20 GMT -5
I used my T/C a few years ago and dropped a Doe at 168 yards. She dropped like a sack of hammers. But I am getting ready to invest in a new Marlin 44 mag lever action and was told that I should be comfortable at 250 to 300 yards... Looking forward to it. Nope. Not enough ME at that distance with the .44 mag even if you could manage to hit the target |
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 6, 2010 21:47:42 GMT -5
125 yards (if I can see that far in the woods) with the slug gun or the PCR.
40 yards with the crossbow..
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 6, 2010 22:15:41 GMT -5
I used my T/C a few years ago and dropped a Doe at 168 yards. She dropped like a sack of hammers. But I am getting ready to invest in a new Marlin 44 mag lever action and was told that I should be comfortable at 250 to 300 yards... Looking forward to it. Being completely realistic, 250 to 300 feet sounds more realistic. I have owned several .44s and like anything else you have got to know it's limitations. |
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Post by parson on Oct 7, 2010 6:01:39 GMT -5
I included range time as part of the op above because, as a line from the Music Man says, "you got to know the territory."
I've been with more than one person who would judge 50 yards to be 100 yards and misstate the distance that they shoot. Not necessarily dishonest, just a sorry judge of distance.
I believe that most people who would take their .44 mag, or similar rifle to a legitimate 200 yard range would be surprised at just how far away the target actually is.
I have personally taken one buck at just at 200 yards, most of the other many deer that I have taken have been more like 50.
And, being a fisherman, as well as a hunter, I know that facts become a little "elastic" as we recount the events.
Whatever your comfort zone, practice at that distance and know where your firearm will put 'em when you drop the hammer.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 7, 2010 6:20:45 GMT -5
PCR = 75 yds.
Shotgun = 100 yds.
ML = 150 yds.
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Post by tenring on Oct 7, 2010 6:45:15 GMT -5
100 yds. Max.
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Post by drs on Oct 7, 2010 6:51:15 GMT -5
The furthest distance I shot a Deer, with my .44 Magnum PCR, was 60 yards.
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Post by vectrix on Oct 7, 2010 17:37:57 GMT -5
Knocked a few off at around 115 0r so with a slug, killed one graveyard dead with an Encore out around 120-130, Swik now has it. With my bow about 40 is my comfort zone, depends on the conditions. My game plan is to set up for much closer shots and avoid the long hail mary's all together.
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Post by JBDiNos on Oct 7, 2010 19:35:47 GMT -5
I will shoot my 12 gauge 1100 about 125 yards if I have a good rest.
I have a .50 cal knight with a big scope that I would shoot 150 yards no problem.
I am comfortable shooting my bow to 40 yards but would shoot 45 yards if I had a good broadside shot and no wind.
I have not personally shot the .44mag pcr enough to shoot more than 75 yards. I have it sited dead on at 50 yards and with very tight groups.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 8, 2010 4:21:29 GMT -5
PCR - On my place if you can see it & have a shot you're in range.
HPR - I can get 400yds, but I've not done any shooting over 300 so that's it for me and 250 would be nicer.
ML - ~125yds, need more practice at distance before trying it any farther.
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Post by parrothead on Oct 8, 2010 7:55:02 GMT -5
I have my new Savage 20g zeroed in at 200 yards.
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Post by turkeyscout on Oct 8, 2010 8:13:36 GMT -5
................100 yards max with a .50 cal. knight muzzy.....40 yards max with a ten point cross-bow
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