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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 20, 2010 10:21:01 GMT -5
NR Study Committee Meeting Sept 27 & 28
Note especially Item 9 for September 27.
NATURAL RESOURCES STUDY COMMITTEE
Legislative Services Agency
200 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204-2789
Tel: (317) 233-0696 Fax: (317) 232-2554
Meeting Date: September 27 & 28, 2010
Meeting Time: 1:00 p.m. & 9:00 a.m.
Meeting Place: McCormick's Creek State Park, Canyon Inn
451 McCormick Creek Park Road
Meeting City: Spencer, Indiana
Meeting Number: 2
MEETING AGENDA
September 27th:
(1) Call to Order
(2) Introduction of Members
(3) McCormick's Creek State Park - Park Manager
(4) Invasive Species Council Update
(5) Asian Carp
(6) Establishing a Sustainable Natural Resources Funding Advisory Committee
(7) Old Growth Forest Management Overview - DNR
(8) Brookville Marina Update - DNR
(9) Proposed Deer Hunting Rules/Toll-free Deer Check-in - DNR
Recess
September 28th:
(1) Coal Bed Methane
(2) Selection of Next Meeting Date
Adjourn
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 20, 2010 11:20:43 GMT -5
toll-free deer check-in...hmmmm interesting.
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Post by hornharvester on Sept 20, 2010 13:56:29 GMT -5
I have a feeling the new rules proposal isn't going to be much better than the first one. I did a lot of research and talked to many people in the DNR and came to the conclusion the rule changes proposed by the DNR is all about making Indiana into a trophy state and has zero to do with doe reduction. Being known as a trophy state will bring in many benefits down the road for the DNR especially when they need to justify the raising of deer licenses.
If they don't get their way this time around they will the next set of rule changes....... h.h.
PS. Two different in the know DNR employees told me over a year ago they were informed the higher up's in the DNR were going to make new rules to move Indiana into a more trophy minded state.
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Post by tenring on Sept 20, 2010 14:01:39 GMT -5
Now that should make those bone hunters happy! Screw 'um!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 14:39:26 GMT -5
Here now....I'm really happy to be a 'boone hunter' and don't like the rule proposals or getting screwed by anyone.
HH-I'm sure your correct about the real purpose of the rule changes, it's rather obvious and follows the agendas of most of the stakeholders. I'm not sure how it's going to benefit the DNR down the road though??? They are in a hole as license fees go with a lot of hunters having LTL. Sure they will raise license fees and at least one of the stakeholders is already working it up. Every time they raise fees, a certain precentage of the hunting public will throw in the towel, so the end result is about the same amount of money. Now if the rescin the LTL and make those folks pony up then it could add up. That would be along the lines of what Tenring is asking for.
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Post by swilk on Sept 20, 2010 14:42:51 GMT -5
people keep throwing this "bone hunter" and antler worshiper stuff out there like it is a bad thing.
gives me a good chuckle.
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Post by deerman1 on Sept 20, 2010 15:26:47 GMT -5
Yessss !! ;D
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Post by deerman1 on Sept 20, 2010 15:35:42 GMT -5
Here now....I'm really happy to be a 'boone hunter' and don't like the rule proposals or getting screwed by anyone. HH-I'm sure your correct about the real purpose of the rule changes, it's rather obvious and follows the agendas of most of the stakeholders. I'm not sure how it's going to benefit the DNR down the road though??? They are in a hole as license fees go with a lot of hunters having LTL. Sure they will raise license fees and at least one of the stakeholders is already working it up. Every time they raise fees, a certain percentage of the hunting public will throw in the towel, so the end result is about the same amount of money. Now if the rescind the LTL and make those folks pony up then it could add up. That would be along the lines of what Tenring is asking for. The LTL holders will never stand for a recension and there really are not that many LTL holders and there are fewer that hunt every year. Second Landowners ,LTL holders supposedly are the big hammers in the antlerless take so it makes no sense to take away what seems to be a top tool for their end game now does it ? Also those who do not have a LTL either was too young or simply did not get one by their choice so the whining about it by those who could of gets zero ear from me and likely the DNR as well. Its called life ain't fair and they had their chance. |
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Post by troutline on Sept 20, 2010 18:46:18 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit on Sept 20, 2010 18:52:46 GMT -5
I have no idea how many lifetime licenses there are out there but judging by my number {it's in the 12000's} and the fact they only had it for a year or two after I squeaked in and got mine it's somewhere in the 15-20000 range maybe. Now no doubt a few of those don't hunt anymore or maybe never even deer hunted to begin with so maybe 15000 lifetime licensed deer hunters? Every year that number will decrease by a very small percentage. In any case rescinding the lifetime licenses will only help if those hunters decide to hunt which undoubtedly if they rescind the license some of will just say screw you.
I don't mind them managing the herd for trophy deer I just don't see the need to take 1/2 of the opportunity away to do it. Makes no sense when they can achieve their goals by other means. And I just wish they had been upfront and honest about it to begin with so we could have all started the debate on equal footing. Saying one thing and meaning another is never a good way to begin a discussion or debate.
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Post by steve46511 on Sept 20, 2010 19:11:44 GMT -5
12000's?  ?? I had no clue. WOW. Mine is under #600. Done wondering here. If I get more opportunity to have a say I will but THIS year is almost upon us...........and it's time to get on the ball. God Bless Steve |
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Post by cedarthicket on Sept 20, 2010 19:26:45 GMT -5
To help avoid some possible confusion, the meeting on September 27 and 28 is the Indiana General Assembly's Natural Resources Study Committee. It is composed of several Representatives and Senators of both major parties in the Indiana General Assembly. The committee looks at possible legislation during the summer and fall months that may be introduced when the legislative session begins again this winter. Here are the committee members:
Members:
Sen. Ryan Mishler, Chairperson
Sen. Greg Walker
Sen. James Lewis
Sen. Richard Young
Rep. Robert Bischoff
Rep. Paul Robertson
Rep. Robert Cherry
Rep. Dan Leonard
Staff:
Steven Wenning, Attorney for the Committee
Bernadette Bartlett, Fiscal Analyst for the Committee
The above committee should NOT be confused with the Natural Resources Commission, which is the entity that gave Preliminary Adoption to the proposed deer rule changes on July 20.
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Post by elmo on Sept 21, 2010 12:11:48 GMT -5
Wow Steve you got yours cheap. I had just started hunting and bought mine. I am probably in the last 100 or so, because I bought mine the day before gun season the year that they quit selling them, and my number is in the mid 24000's.
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Post by steve46511 on Sept 22, 2010 14:05:03 GMT -5
24th year of no more tags to buy, yet at the time my friends (whom have since changed their tune) thought I had lost my mind. Tags were 10 bucks and we couldnt shoot very many anyway.....then.
Thanks, Woody for keeping us updated on all this. It's going to be interesting, to say the least.
God Bless
Steve
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